Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

[DBZGTKOSDH]

[@DBZGTKOSDH: Why would you want that?

Want what?

That luffy and naruto always do the finishing off. I'd be perfectly fine with it if those series mixed it up a little. Like Toriyama did in the Cell saga. He was well on his way in the buu saga too, but yeah then the spirit bomb happened. But you could argue that Vegeta and even Satan there were equally important. At least Goku wasn't miraculously the most powerful fighter in the saga and just won by overpowering.

If they do something like that in the movie I'd be fine with it. Vegeta, Gohan and Goku should have equally important roles in the fight. But it will ultimately probably end up in Goku finishing it off, which couldn't have happened without the rest. I'd rather not have the Gt style fight where everyone's just there watching Goku.

But it's not that great having secondary characters taking out the main threat. It's like watching a Batman movie, and see Batgirl on the spotlight taking out Joker. Naruto is Naruto's story, One Piece is Luffy's story, and Dragon Ball is Goku's story.

It would be lame having Vegeta or Piccolo defeating the main villain. However, the main villain usually has henchmen with him. So, if they have a villain for every hero, someone on Vegeta's level for Vegeta to take down for example, and have a fight for everyone, now that would be awesome.

[Saiga]

But it's not that great having secondary characters taking out the main threat. It's like watching a Batman movie, and see Batgirl on the spotlight taking out Joker. Naruto is Naruto's story, One Piece is Luffy's story, and Dragon Ball is Goku's story.

It would be lame having Vegeta or Piccolo defeating the main villain. However, the main villain usually has henchmen with him. So, if they have a villain for every hero, someone on Vegeta's level for Vegeta to take down for example, and have a fight for everyone, now that would be awesome.

I agree with this 99%. Obviously I've made it clear that Gohan is the 1% I disagree on. I think Dragon Ball is as much his story as it is Goku's.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

I agree with this 99%. Obviously I've made it clear that Gohan is the 1% I disagree on. I think Dragon Ball is as much his story as it is Goku's.

True, Gohan is the main character next to Goku, but Goku is the main main character, except in Boo arc & the beginning of Boo arc.

[theawesomepossum777]

You know you're obsessed with Dragon Ball when you start thinking about a scenario where Bulma flashes her boobs to the main villains, and they lose so much blood that they die from excessive blood loss. Though you have to take some liberties that the main villains are bigger perverts than Kame Sennin.

I don't think I'm obsessed with DragonBall.

I was talking about myself!

[Xagani]

Maybe Mr. Satan and Boo will actually do something too...

[kei17]

Yusuke Watanabe, the script writer, tweeted about the movie.

Gods! They're Gods!! -> "Dragon Ball Z Battle of Gods" The title has been confirmed: http://t.co/6gwiwvQQ

I said "I'm looking forward to seeing Makaioshin!" to him, and then he replied "Oooops! Thank you!". I'm not sure what Oooops! means here, but now I'm starting to believe that the female character in the leaked image is Makaioshin.

[Xagani]

I said "I'm looking forward to seeing Makaioshin!" to him, and then he replied "Oooops! Thank you!". I don't know what Oooops! exactly means, but now I'm starting to believe that the female character in the leaked image is Makaioshin.

Yes! I wanted that female character to be a Makaioshin. It makes sense for her to be and ever since Toriyama first mentioned about Makaioshin, I wanted them to be in some form of DB medium. DB online doesn't count.

[batistabus]

Yusuke Watanabe, the script writer, tweeted about the movie.

Gods! They're Gods!! -> "Dragon Ball Z Battle of Gods" The title has been confirmed: http://t.co/6gwiwvQQ

I said "I'm looking forward to seeing Makaioshin!" to him, and then he replied "Oooops! Thank you!". I don't know what Oooops! exactly means, but now I'm starting to believe that the female character in the leaked image is Makaioshin.

Totally called it. Obviously this isn't exactly conclusive....but maybe it's a good sign?

Personally I have no problem with the Makaioshin looking so different from the regular Kaioshin...assuming the purple guy is a Makaioshin and not a different beast entirely.

[Craddle]

I'm not sure if anyone else mentioned anything about the number of tickets available being 8989. I assume that's a "hats off" to Dragon Ball Z (1989 last 26 Vol. of Manga, 1989 Anime) and has nothing to do with One Piece.

[kei17]

I'm not sure if anyone else mentioned anything about the number of tickets available being 8989. I assume that's a "hats off" to Dragon Ball Z (1989 Manga, 1989 Anime) and has nothing to do with One Piece.

Actually, that's a pun for wakuwaku (exciting).

[Craddle]

I'm not sure if anyone else mentioned anything about the number of tickets available being 8989. I assume that's a "hats off" to Dragon Ball Z (1989 Manga, 1989 Anime) and has nothing to do with One Piece.

Actually, that's a pun for wakuwaku (exciting).

Wow, it's only a coincidence?

[Michsi]

I agree with this 99%. Obviously I've made it clear that Gohan is the 1% I disagree on. I think Dragon Ball is as much his story as it is Goku's.

I would have agreed with this had it not been for the final part of the Buu Saga where he was pushed aside so brutally and how little to no focus he had in the last chapter. It's because of these things that I ended up thinking of him as simply a very important side character.

I said "I'm looking forward to seeing Makaioshin!" to him, and then he replied "Oooops! Thank you!". I'm not sure what Oooops! means here, but now I'm starting to believe that the female character in the leaked image is Makaioshin.

While it's not definite, it's as close to a confirmation as we are going to get until the trailers are out.
Anyway, thanks for this.

[Chuquita]

So it's likely we really do have makaioshin as the bad guys? Neat. X3 I did enjoy the antics I've read about in the DBO thread concerning Towa. (Also, I guess if mystery-lady is a makaioshin, and makaioshin are genderless, than that'll make it more difficult to describe in English than in Japanese; as I don't know which--if either--gender this character identifies themself with.)

So for now, I'm switching this character from "mystery-lady" to "possible-makaioshin".


I wonder if that means cat-guy equates to Miira in terms of a character created by the makaioshin character?

Thank you for tweeting him! This bit of possible-spoilers makes it easier to type things out.

I noticed in some of the other tweets, people were bringing up the topic of the word "gods" being in the title and how it would affect those in other cultures overseas; I figure that for international releases that (and this is something I've seen happen with most of the other dbz movies anyway) some of them will probably just rename the movie if they're uncomfortable, and possibly even if they're not uncomfortable; movie-renamings happen even for regular mainstream Hollywood movies when they're released overseas.

[hleV]

Also, I guess if mystery-lady is a makaioshin, and makaioshin are genderless, than that'll make it more difficult to describe in English than in Japanese; as I don't know which--if either--gender this character identifies themself with.

Would you call the woman-like Kaioshin a "he" only because they're said to be gengerless?

[Chuquita]

Also, I guess if mystery-lady is a makaioshin, and makaioshin are genderless, than that'll make it more difficult to describe in English than in Japanese; as I don't know which--if either--gender this character identifies themself with.

Would you call the woman-like Kaioshin a "he" only because they're said to be gengerless?

I'd use whichever pronoun the makaioshin character identifies themselves with. If it's neither, I just won't use pronouns at all. I don't have enough information to go on, that's why I said for now, I'm going to refer to the character as "possible-makaioshin". I'm not using any gender pronouns for this character until the official sources say which to use.

While my Japanese isn't fantastic, I feel like there's a gender-neutral pronoun that Japanese has that English does not. It may or may not equate to something like saying "this person" or "that person", but again, I've never taken any official courses in Japanese.

[sailorspazz]

It's not that Japanese has gender neutral pronouns that English lacks, but more that they tend to drop the pronouns once the subject is mutually understood by the speakers. So if the conversation revolves around a person named Tanaka, the speakers typically will not use "he" or "she"; they would use either no pronouns or refer to the name Tanaka if they need to restate the subject (or they can use "that person").

And as for the background character possibly being a makaioushin, that's pretty interesting news. I need to read through the DBO timeline again to remember how they're significant But I'll look forward to continuing to get these little news tidbits (and a trailer! Oh, god, how I want to see this all in action) as we get closer to the movie's release.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Nice to see the title completely confirmed now, which more or less means the poster is probably legit (I mean, how could they fake the logo much less the title, to such an exact degree before it was announced?). The likelihood of it being a Makaioshin involved to, I'm really liking where this is heading.

As far as the thing about Goku taking down the villain himself or not, I'm betting he'll be the person who deals the final blow, but hopefully the others get to do more than fight-main-villain-and-get-smacked-away as per the norm.

And I swear, if this movie catches what some of the earlier-to-mid films had, and it ends with a Genki Dama (like how every freakin' Naruto movie has to end with a Rasengan)...

[Herms]

And as for the background character possibly being a makaioushin, that's pretty interesting news. I need to read through the DBO timeline again to remember how they're significant

They're actually not mentioned in the DBO timeline; Toriyama just talks about them in his Super Exciting Guide: Character Volume interview. People have speculated for a long time that the character Towa in DBO is a Makaioshin, but I don't believe this has ever been officially confirmed anywhere. The way things are looking now, it's possible Toriyama came up with the idea of Makaioshins for this movie rather than DBO. But I guess only time will tell.

[Chuquita]

It's not that Japanese has gender neutral pronouns that English lacks, but more that they tend to drop the pronouns once the subject is mutually understood by the speakers. So if the conversation revolves around a person named Tanaka, the speakers typically will not use "he" or "she"; they would use either no pronouns or refer to the name Tanaka if they need to restate the subject (or they can use "that person").

And as for the background character possibly being a makaioushin, that's pretty interesting news. I need to read through the DBO timeline again to remember how they're significant But I'll look forward to continuing to get these little news tidbits (and a trailer! Oh, god, how I want to see this all in action) as we get closer to the movie's release.

That's interesting. I really like learning about languages, and this is helpful. I've been doing more research about how the Japanese language works since the movie was announced than I have in a long while.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

So it's most likely the Makaioshin, eh? Awesome!