What do you think happened to Mr. Satan in Trunks' timeline?

[DoomieDoomie911]

I was just wondering what do you all think happened to him? Do you think he was killed or went into hiding? And happy Thanksgiving everyone!!!

[Hitiro]

Clearly he was one of the first, non-Z fighters to challenge the androids, thinking he could win because obviously he's the champ. Now one of two things could have happened. He either:

A. Survived the battle through being immune to damage due to him being a comedy character.

or

B. Was slaughtered mercilessly and perhaps toyed with for a short amount of time while the world watched his death on camera. Then the cameramen were killed shortly after.

Alternatively, who's to say Mr. Satan exists in Trunks timeline? There were discrepancies between the two universes events and when they happened.

[DoomieDoomie911]

Clearly he was one of the first, non-Z fighters to challenge the androids, thinking he could win because obviously he's the champ. Now one of two things could have happened. He either:

A. Survived the battle through being immune to damage due to him being a comedy character.

or

B. Was slaughtered mercilessly and perhaps toyed with for a short amount of time while the world watched his death on camera. Then the cameramen were killed shortly after.

I want to go with A because I just can't see Mr. Satan being killed.

[Dorexx]

I'd imagine that if he challenged 17 and 18 (forced by his fans or his own will), they'd find him amusing and maybe keep him around as a servant, but eventually 18 wouldn't stand him anymore and kill him. He'd be vaporized in an instant tho and wouldn't feel a thing. I could imagine this being drawn in a comedy/gag-like style by Toriyama, and the last panel would be Satan in the afterlife with a halo and his dotty eyes not realizing what just happened.

But then again, I'm not sure if the reason Satan became famous in the first place was because of challenging Cell. If that's the case then he wouldn't be much of a celebrity in this timeline, especially with it being an apocalyptic world. So he could've been hiding around like other civilians or be killed randomly one day in a city. But still in a funny way.

[Hitiro]

I'd imagine that if he challenged 17 and 18 (forced by his fans or his own will), they'd find him amusing and maybe keep him around as a servant, but eventually 18 wouldn't stand him anymore and kill him. He'd be vaporized in an instant tho and wouldn't feel a thing. I could imagine this being drawn in a comedy/gag-like style by Toriyama, and the last panel would be Satan in the afterlife with a halo and his dotty eyes not realizing what just happened.

But then again, I'm not sure if the reason Satan became famous in the first place was because of challenging Cell. If that's the case then he wouldn't be much of a celebrity in this timeline, especially with it being an apocalyptic world. So he could've been hiding around like other civilians or be killed randomly one day in a city. But still in a funny way.

Mr. Satan was considered famous before the whole Cell Games thing. To be honest I don't know why he is any more famous than Goku, Tien or "Jackie Chun" because they all won the Budokai tournaments too. I guess the Budokai's just became very popular after Goku's win and because Mr. Satan won twice(?) he was considered the undisputed champion of the world and the strongest man alive.

[omegalucas]

Mr. Satan was considered famous before the whole Cell Games thing. To be honest I don't know why he is any more famous than Goku, Tenshinhan or "Jackie Chun" because they all won the Budokai tournaments too. I guess the Budokai's just became very popular after Goku's win and because Mr. Satan won twice(?) he was considered the undisputed champion of the world and the strongest man alive.

Actually, isn't it stated by Roshi in the anime (and I think in the manga too) after the Cell Games are announced that there has been no Tenka'ichi Budokai since the 23rd because the ring was destroyed by Piccolo?

And, athough it's a bit off-topic, but still related to Satan, is it me or he shrinks in the seven years between the Cell Games and the 25th Tenka'ichi? He looks huge (bigger than Goku) in the Cell Games yet he seems so short (and thin) during the Majin Boo saga.

[Super Saiyan Turlast x4]

I sorta recall that being said in the Anime. I don't remember reading it in the Manga, tho.

[Saiga]

He must've caught the same heart virus Goku had. It's the only explanation for why he didn't defeat the Androids himself.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

At least in Shin Budokai 2, he was shown to be alive and well. No word for Videl though... Poor Videl.

[Hitiro]

Actually, isn't it stated by Roshi in the anime (and I think in the manga too) after the Cell Games are announced that there has been no Tenka'ichi Budokai since the 23rd because the ring was destroyed by Piccolo?

And, athough it's a bit off-topic, but still related to Satan, is it me or he shrinks in the seven years between the Cell Games and the 25th Tenka'ichi? He looks huge (bigger than Goku) in the Cell Games yet he seems so short (and thin) during the Majin Boo saga.

Age 764
Sometime in August:
--Goku returns to Earth. Trunks defeats Freeza and his father, who had arrived on Earth, and warns Goku about the androids. Vegeta commences his special training in the gravity control room in order to become a Super Saiyan.
--Bulma begins to fall in love with Vegeta as he trains at Capsule Corporation. Goku and Piccolo go to training school to obtain their air car licenses. [A]

Age 766
Trunks (chibi) is born this year.

Age 767
Goten is born this year

May 7th: The 24th Tenkaichi Budoukai is held. Mister Satan is the champion of the adult division, while Videl is the children’s division champion.

May 12th: The androids appear, and Goku passes out from his contagious disease. Not long after, Cell appears in the afternoon. Piccolo merges with the Earth’s Kami. Kuririn and Trunks (teenager) destroy the young form of the Cell that existed in the present.

May 15th: Goku recovers from his contagious disease with the medicine that Trunks brought from the future. Vegeta and Trunks enter the Room of Spirit and Time.

May 16th: Cell evolves into his second stage, and then into his perfect form. Switching with Vegata and Trunks, Goku and Gohan enter the Room of Spirit and Time.

May 17th: The opening of the Cell Games is broadcast to the entire world. Goku and Gohan emerge from the Room of Spirit and Time. Piccolo enters the Room of Spirit and Time.

^ According to Daizenshuu 7's timeline the 24th Budokai was held just under a week before the androids appeared. We can also assume that there must have been a tournament as the commentator who spoke at the previous Budokai's indicates that the last Budokai wasn't very good. So I guess we can assume that the Budokai's had been halted for all those years until before the androids came. Seems I was wrong about Mr. Satan winning it twice but I wasn't sure about it anyway.

[BlazingFiddlesticks]

Thing is, we talk about Satan's gag-immunity, but Trunk's future wasn't a gag time period. No room for comic relief in manga or TV Special. Which might not give him such plot armor; you'd be more likely to see him because the writer would expect fans to want to see him!

I could imagine this being drawn in a comedy/gag-like style by Toriyama, and the last panel would be Satan in the afterlife with a halo and his dotty eyes not realizing what just happened.

Perfection.

Actually, isn't it stated by Roshi in the anime (and I think in the manga too) after the Cell Games are announced that there has been no Tenka'ichi Budokai since the 23rd because the ring was destroyed by Piccolo?

I don't think the Budokai's were what got Satan famous in the first place.

[Hitiro]

I don't think the Budokai's were what got Satan famous in the first place.

I don't see why not, he's called "the champion" and he had recently won the Budokai Tenkaichi. But if you don't think that's how he got famous then I won't try to change your mind. There could be some back story we don't know about I guess.

[Herms]

I sorta recall that being said in the Anime. I don't remember reading it in the Manga, tho.

It's only in the anime, but we know from both the manga and anime that there was one (but only one) tournament between the 23rd and the one we see in the Boo arc. Here's my explanation from "The History of Ever" of what's known of the 24th TB:

In Chapter 425 Videl says her father won the last tournament, and Goku won the one before that. Since Goku won the 23rd, this makes the one Satan won the 24th, though this number is only ever used in guidebooks. In Chapter 439 as Videl starts to fight Spopovitch, the tournament announcer says the previous tournament was 7 years ago, placing it in Age 767. The month and day (May 7th) are the eternal one for the TB.

When Satan is introduced in Chapter 393, he’s described as the “world martial arts [kakutou] champion”, while in Chapter 425 Videl says the TB determines the “world martial arts [kakutou] champion”. This might be Toriyama trying to imply Satan’s fame during the Cell Games was due to him winning the TB, particularly since previously “budou” rather than “kakutou” had been the word used for the martial arts when talking about the Tenkaichi Budokai (hence the name). Chapter 425 establishes Videl as champion of the youth division, as well as Spopovitch losing in the first round (the anime shows him losing to Mister Satan).

Mighty Mask, Jewel, and Killer’s placement comes from Chapter 458. The mention of both a "second round" and the "semi-finals" could mean that this tournament had 4 rounds, unlike previous TBs but like the 25th. Gohan (16, according to the narrator) can enter the adult division, but Idasa (said to be 15) is in the youth division, so apparently the cutoff point is around there.

[BlazingFiddlesticks]

I don't think the Budokai's were what got Satan famous in the first place.

I don't see why not, he's called "the champion" and he had recently won the Budokai Tenkaichi. But if you don't think that's how he got famous then I won't try to change your mind. There could be some back story we don't know about I guess.

I could totally be wrong here, I just don't remember him being explicitly tied to the Budokai in the Cell arc, which to me implies he had other notable victories to his name, barring the possibility that Toriyama hadn't thought that far ahead and just wrote him as the one-note character he then was.

[DoomieDoomie911]

I could imagine this being drawn in a comedy/gag-like style by Toriyama, and the last panel would be Satan in the afterlife with a halo and his dotty eyes not realizing what just happened.

That would be fun to read!

[gohan2k]

I'm fairly certain that what happened was Mr Satan was just introduced in the Cell arc as the world champion fighter etc with no mention of the Budokai but it was later retconned in the Buu arc that around the time of the Android arc there had been a Budokai which he had won.

But regarding the topic question I'd say he either died fighting the Androids at some point or possibly went into hiding with the world believing him to be dead.

Either scenario is plausible but we'll never know the answer, barring any future releases that may shed some light on the situation

[dbzfan7]

(out of universe) I think he wasn't created yet

(in universe) probably dead unless you count Shin budokai 2

[NANLIT]

I also believe that Mr. Satan challenged 17 and 18, thinking he could defeat them, only to get killed easily. Although in the timeline we saw, the Z Fighters did not fight in the TB because they were preparing for the Artificial Humans, I believe that the Z Fighters did not participate in the terrible timelines because with Goku dead, it wouldn't be the same for them so Mr. Satan still won the 24th TB in the other timelines, boosting his ego which got him killed.

[TheDevilsCorpse]

Satan: Have no fear! These so called monsters attacking our cities are nothing more than teenage terrorists using a bunch of tricks and explosives to try and make the world cower in fear. But I, Mr. Satan, your world champion, won't allow it! I'm going to track down those punks and give them an ass kicking they'll never forget! Ah ha ha hahaha!

*A few hours later*

Satan: Hey you two! The world champion, Mr. Satan, is here to stop you from causing all this destruction and prevent you from killing anymore of the people of Earth. I know all about your tricks, so prepare yourself!
17: Who's the idiot?
18: I don't know, but he annoys me.
17: We haven't seen Gohan in a bit, you think we should play with him instead?
18: He really doesn't seem all that special. Just get rid of him before he starts talking again.
Satan: Hoooooo! Satan Miracle Special Ultra Super Megaton Pun--

*Seconds later, lucky enough to still have a body*

Satan: Guh! What happened...? Where am I...? I was just...uh, why are there talking clouds everywhere?
Enma: So let's see here. Hmmm...Mark. From Earth. Died fighting the same Jinzoningen that took out Goku's friends...
Satan: Shhhh! Don't say that out loud! I go by Mr. Satan now! ...wait, did you say "died"?
Enma: Yeah. Seems you croaked when a cyborg flicked you in the head hard enough to splatter your brain against the back of your skull.
Satan: Hmph! I can't be dead, I feel fine. Who do you think you are anyway?! This is probably just another trick; some kind of hologram or elaborate puppet behind that really big desk!
Enma: Oh, you like it? It's mahogany.

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Totally how it happened in my head.

[FabuVinny]

Mr Satan does not seek out villains if there is no one to impress. In the main timeline, he didn't get himself involved when the actual attacks were happening.

He only became involved because Cell made a public announcement that the only way to save the world was for strongest martial artists to fight in the Cell Games. As the current world champion, that put the pressure on him to stand up.

If Mr. Satan was pushed into the same area as 17 and 18 at some point in Trunk's timeline, he would have ran away very quickly.