The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:35 pm

Strife1 wrote:Okay guys, get ready for an influx of Versus battles
Strife1 wrote:Ssjg3 Trunks Vs. Lssj Broly
LSSJ Broly
Strife1 wrote:#16 w/ bomb Vs. Cell (basically could he have killed Cell w/ it)
Cell(He survived his own self-destruction)
Strife1 wrote:Dr. Wheelo Vs. Vegeta (Reccome fight)
Tie
Strife1 wrote:Goku Ssj Vs. Gohan Ssj During Cell tournament (No rage boost, no "Goku wins because of toei" Straight fight)
Gohan
Strife1 wrote:Imperfect cell who absorbed everyone on earth, excluding the androids and the Z-fighters, Vs. Perfect cell or Super Perfect Cell
Umm Cell XD
Strife1 wrote:Yakon Vs. Freeza(100%)
Yakon
Strife1 wrote:Pui Pui Vs. Ginyu
Pui Pui
Strife1 wrote:Yakon Vs. Kibito
Yakon
Strife1 wrote:Piccolo Vs. Yakon
Yakon
Strife1 wrote:Imperfect Cell Vs. 16 (No bomb) Who would have won the fight if no androids were absorbed?
Cell
Strife1 wrote:Goku Ssj Buu saga Vs. Cell or Dabra
Goku in both cases unless Cell is super perfect
Strife1 wrote:Base Gotenks Vs Freeza(100%)
Gotenks
Strife1 wrote:Ssjg3 Trunks Vs Gotenks Ssj (If they have the same speed)
Gotenks by a long shot.
Strife1 wrote:Ssj(2) Gogeta Vs. Ultimate Gohan
SSJ Gogeta
Strife1 wrote:Android 13 Vs. Android 17
17 > Base 13, Super 13 > 17
Strife1 wrote:Androids 14 & 15 Vs. Androids 19 & 20
14 and 15
Strife1 wrote:Ssj Vegeta & Ssj Goku(during 19 & 20 fight no virus) Vs. Future Androids 17 & 18
17 and 18 unless Goku brought out a Kaioken x4 or higher while in SSJ
Strife1 wrote:Super Android 13 Vs. Meta Cooler
Cooler because he can fix himself and improve himself.
Strife1 wrote:Cooler, normal state Vs. Mecha Freeza
Mecha Frieza
Strife1 wrote:Ssj Trunkten Vs. Ssj3 Gogeta
I assume Trunkten is Goten and Trunks + Potara if so, SSJ3 Gogeta.
Strife1 wrote:Pilaf Vs. Babidi :D In a contest of fighting skills, no magic...or whatever Pilaf has.
Pilaf
Strife1 wrote:Final Form Cooler Vs. Android 18
Android 18
Strife1 wrote:Kid Buu Vs. Hirudegarn
Hirudegarn
Strife1 wrote:Uub EoZ Vs. Piccolo EoZ
Uub
Strife1 wrote:Pan Eoz Vs. Krillin Eoz
Pan
Strife1 wrote:KibitoKai Vs. Ssj(2) Goku Buu Saga
SSJ2 Goku
Strife1 wrote:South Supreme Kai Vs. Ssj2 Goku
SSJ2 Goku
Strife1 wrote:Kid Vegeta Vs. Krillin (Saiyan Arc)
Kid Vegeta(He didnt even try to kill many Saibamen)
Strife1 wrote:Piccolo Post Rosat Vs. Second form Cell
Second Form Cell
Strife1 wrote:Paikuhan Vs. Vegeta Eoz (Ssj-Ssj2)
SSJ Vegeta maybe SSJ2 it depends on how much stronger Pikkon got.
Strife1 wrote:Yamcha, Tenshinhan, Krillin Buu Saga Vs. Olibu
Toei BS, Krillin is enough. Without Toei BS, Tien might be able to win but I still give this to Olibu
This is all my opinion.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Insertclevername » Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:35 pm

Gohan vs. Dabra

The rematch that never happened. Do you think Gohan can pull it off or was Dabra's claim not a bluff.

Personally, I think Gohan could possibly pull through, he seems like he can draw out more power where as Dabra seemed like he was maxed out. It's up in the air for all I know.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Wed Nov 28, 2012 4:42 pm

Insertclevername wrote:Gohan vs. Dabra

The rematch that never happened. Do you think Gohan can pull it off or was Dabra's claim not a bluff.

Personally, I think Gohan could possibly pull through, he seems like he can draw out more power where as Dabra seemed like he was maxed out. It's up in the air for all I know.
Not sure. If Gohan were to pull out a SSJ2 then Dabura gets owned.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:03 pm

Gohan could win, but I don't think he would unless he got extremely pissed or something.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kaboom » Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:40 pm

Insertclevername wrote:Gohan vs. Dabra
If Gohan can manage Super Saiyan 2, he takes it. At Super Saiyan 1 he was at a disadvantage, but not a very large one at all.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Strife1 » Wed Nov 28, 2012 6:55 pm

I think that's a little much, particularly without anything to add on your own. I'd prefer to see a focused discussion, rather than endless lists tossed out there.
Don't tell me what to do! >.<
Just Kidding :) My apologies, it does make sense not to have endless lists with no input other than the battles. Won't happen again.
Gohan vs. Dabra

The rematch that never happened. Do you think Gohan can pull it off or was Dabra's claim not a bluff.

Personally, I think Gohan could possibly pull through, he seems like he can draw out more power where as Dabra seemed like he was maxed out. It's up in the air for all I know.
Gohan Ssj2 would Defeat Dabura, but a lot less easily than Ssj2 Gohan would have defeated Cell.

Ssj Gogeta Vs. Buutenks. Who would win the fight before the fusions time out?
Like Kaboom, I have Warrior Janemba and Super Buu at about equal levels. Buutenks is basically twice that of Super Buu, who Goku said he couldn't defeat. He also has a hard time with Warrior Janemba. Plus Gogeta completely tanked a punch to the face from Janemba, so i'd say he'd have to be at least twice as strong as him.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Dec 01, 2012 12:56 pm

Goku (Freeza arc) vs Gohan (Artificial Humans arc)

No Kaio-ken or Super Saiyan for Goku, and no rage boost for Gohan. Who wins?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sat Dec 01, 2012 1:28 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Goku (Freeza arc) vs Gohan (Artificial Humans arc)

No Kaio-ken or Super Saiyan for Goku, and no rage boost for Gohan. Who wins?
Hmm very good battle. I'm not sure who would win.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Goku (Freeza arc) vs Gohan (Artificial Humans arc)

No Kaio-ken or Super Saiyan for Goku, and no rage boost for Gohan. Who wins?
I think Gohan would have a bit of an edge in battle power, but Goku's greater skill would be enough to give him the win, though I wouldn't necessarily be surprised to see Gohan come out on top.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Insertclevername » Sat Dec 01, 2012 3:26 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Goku (Freeza arc) vs Gohan (Artificial Humans arc)

No Kaio-ken or Super Saiyan for Goku, and no rage boost for Gohan. Who wins?
By Freeza arc, you mean the battle with Freeza? If so, Gokuu would win, I believe that they're both on the same level but this is Gokuu, so he'd win.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by dbzfan7 » Sat Dec 01, 2012 9:46 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Goku (Freeza arc) vs Gohan (Artificial Humans arc)

No Kaio-ken or Super Saiyan for Goku, and no rage boost for Gohan. Who wins?
If this is Goku fighting Freeza I go with Goku, If this is Goku Fighting Ginyu, I go with Gohan.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Goku (Freeza arc) vs Gohan (Artificial Humans arc)

No Kaio-ken or Super Saiyan for Goku, and no rage boost for Gohan. Who wins?
I think Gohan would have been a fair bit stronger than Goku after 3 years of training with Goku and Piccolo, so I'd say he wins.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kaboom » Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:14 am

In terms of power, yeah, I'd say Gohan is superior. He's been training with Goku and Piccolo, and I think his base form would be on-par with Goku's at that point, something around 5 million. His only major disadvantage compared to them is just not having Super Saiyan yet. Putting character flaws/quirks aside, Gohan would win, but Goku would be able to put up a decent fight just like he did with Freeza initially.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:39 pm

Ultimate Gohan vs SSJ4 Goku(Boo Saga)

Side question:

Would Gohan get more out of SSJ4 or his Power up from the Elder Kaioshin.

SSJ4 apparently has no drawbacks (which is odd when SSJ3 had some, so you would think a more powerful form would have more drawbacks.)

How much did Gohan's power multiply after his potential was released and expanded upon.
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Post by Saiga » Mon Dec 03, 2012 11:56 pm

I would say that Gohan is still quite a lot stronger than Goku, because he had a crapload of dormant power. And SS4 still uses a lot of power, which is why Gogeta only lasted 10-15 minutes. So Goku would wear himself out quickly.
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Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:07 am

Saiga wrote:I would say that Gohan is still quite a lot stronger than Goku, because he had a crapload of dormant power. And SS4 still uses a lot of power, which is why Gogeta only lasted 10-15 minutes. So Goku would wear himself out quickly.
For some reason SSJ4 doesn't have nearly as many problems as SSJ3. Gotenks fusion time is cut to 5 minutes upon SSJ3.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Rocketman » Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:21 am

It's a tough fight, but eventually Goku is going to run out of steam and drop out of SS4, while Gohan can't lose his 'form'.

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Post by Kaboom » Tue Dec 04, 2012 12:27 am

I think, for the sake of being different (and trying out my shiny new 1000x multiplier for SSj4 in GTR), that it would be a very close fight, and Goku might have a very slight edge in power. It would probably come down to who runs out of energy first, and that's most likely to be Goku.
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Post by Insertclevername » Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:07 am

You also have to take into consideration that this is Gohan, a rusty fighter, fighting Gokuu, a fight-aholic. Do you think that skill would matter?
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Strife1 » Tue Dec 04, 2012 1:28 am

It all depends on your multiplier for Ssj4. After seeing this, I don't believe it can be x500, because he wouldn't even have been able to beat Ssj3 Gotenks.
So, using Kabooms 1000x Multiplier (Just going to borrow this :D) Goku easily wins, while Gohan puts up a tough fight.

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