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Post by El_Diablo » Wed Feb 22, 2006 8:49 am

Full Power SSj is from the Daizenshuu, I believe.
Where's the beef?

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Post by Dayspring » Wed Feb 22, 2006 2:33 pm

VegettoEX wrote:
Dayspring wrote:
VegettoEX wrote:(all as listed in our respective "Transformations Guide" page).
It still bugs the shit out of me that everybody considers Buu (+South Kaioshin) to be anim-only. You see it in the manga for a few panels when he reverts to Chibi, and Vegeta even says "He's going to transform again...", so it's not like you can argue that it never took place. :?
Well... we list the manga chapter... it's just that it's given slightly more focus in the anime.
Yeah, but saying it doesn't exist at all is significantly different from "not focused upon as much." :?
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Post by MyVisionity » Wed Feb 22, 2006 2:36 pm

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Full Power Super Saiya'jin / Super Saiya'jin Full Power

This one has boggled me the most. The only root I can find is a chapter title (the one in which Goku first goes to full power at the Cell Game) which I think was originally named "Supaa Saiya'jin Furu Pawaa" or something like that.

Another thing about it that bugs me is how little it makes sense, at least in my opinion. "Full Power" is a term used countless times to describe all kinds of characters from call kinds of "Transformations" and "Races". And it surely isn't the ultimate culmunation of what a Super Saiya'jin can become.
By calling it SSJ Full Power, it recognizes that Goku and Gohan have both attained the full extent of power in the Super Saiya-jin form. Vegeta and Trunks were only able to do limited power-ups of that form, but could not completely master the entire load.

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Post by Chibi Mystic Gohan » Wed Feb 22, 2006 2:54 pm

VegettoEX wrote:As far as I can tell, the only name variation that appears in the manga is "Mr. Buu".
Chapter 508 is called junsui no majin buu (the original/pure Boo), and Vegeta calls "Fat Boo" dekai no majin buu (the huge/large Boo), I believe, while they're inside of Boo. And I think Piccolo called "Super Boo" junsui aku (pure evil), while the Daizenshuu gave this title to the grey Boo.

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Post by Dayspring » Wed Feb 22, 2006 3:45 pm

Chibi Mystic Gohan wrote:
VegettoEX wrote:As far as I can tell, the only name variation that appears in the manga is "Mr. Buu".
Chapter 508 is called junsui no majin buu (the original/pure Boo), and Vegeta calls "Fat Boo" dekai no majin buu (the huge/large Boo), I believe, while they're inside of Boo. And I think Piccolo called "Super Boo" junsui aku (pure evil), while the Daizenshuu gave this title to the grey Boo.
Ok, seriously, why is nobody reading my post regarding Buu's names? :P
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Post by Duo » Wed Feb 22, 2006 4:06 pm

Dayspring wrote:
Chibi Mystic Gohan wrote:
VegettoEX wrote:As far as I can tell, the only name variation that appears in the manga is "Mr. Buu".
Chapter 508 is called junsui no majin buu (the original/pure Boo), and Vegeta calls "Fat Boo" dekai no majin buu (the huge/large Boo), I believe, while they're inside of Boo. And I think Piccolo called "Super Boo" junsui aku (pure evil), while the Daizenshuu gave this title to the grey Boo.
Ok, seriously, why is nobody reading my post regarding Buu's names? :P
I did, and I loved it.

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Post by desirecampbell » Wed Feb 22, 2006 5:14 pm

Dayspring wrote:
Chibi Mystic Gohan wrote:
VegettoEX wrote:As far as I can tell, the only name variation that appears in the manga is "Mr. Buu".
Chapter 508 is called junsui no majin buu (the original/pure Boo), and Vegeta calls "Fat Boo" dekai no majin buu (the huge/large Boo), I believe, while they're inside of Boo. And I think Piccolo called "Super Boo" junsui aku (pure evil), while the Daizenshuu gave this title to the grey Boo.
Ok, seriously, why is nobody reading my post regarding Buu's names? :P
Just to get you goin' :lol:

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Post by Chibi Mystic Gohan » Wed Feb 22, 2006 6:16 pm

Dayspring wrote:
Chibi Mystic Gohan wrote:
VegettoEX wrote:As far as I can tell, the only name variation that appears in the manga is "Mr. Buu".
Chapter 508 is called junsui no majin buu (the original/pure Boo), and Vegeta calls "Fat Boo" dekai no majin buu (the huge/large Boo), I believe, while they're inside of Boo. And I think Piccolo called "Super Boo" junsui aku (pure evil), while the Daizenshuu gave this title to the grey Boo.
Ok, seriously, why is nobody reading my post regarding Buu's names? :P
Woops, I was just skimming through the topic! Oh well.

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Post by Dayspring » Thu Feb 23, 2006 12:18 pm

One thing that always tickled me was that with all this crap-terminology, fans never made a term for Dende, Krillin and Gohan once they received a boost from Saichoru. :P
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Post by Rocketman » Thu Feb 23, 2006 1:06 pm

Dayspring wrote:One thing that always tickled me was that with all this crap-terminology, fans never made a term for Dende, Krillin and Gohan once they received a boost from Saichoru. :P
Nothing cool happened, that's why. :P

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Post by SpaceKappa » Thu Feb 23, 2006 2:20 pm

Fine then, from here on out they shall be referred to as "Kuririn +1," "Gohan +1" and "Dende +1." :P

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Post by Duo » Thu Feb 23, 2006 3:40 pm

"Gohan with sleeping power released."

"Kuririn with sleeping power released."

"Dende who can fly fast and heal."

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Post by Saiya-jin » Thu Feb 23, 2006 4:37 pm

Rocketman wrote:
Dayspring wrote:One thing that always tickled me was that with all this crap-terminology, fans never made a term for Dende, Krillin and Gohan once they received a boost from Saichoru. :P
Nothing cool happened, that's why. :P
Yeah, it didn't really do anything, I mean, Gohan got in a few good hits on Recoome, but he still lost. Krillin got beat in one kick.

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Post by Duo » Thu Feb 23, 2006 4:45 pm

Saiya-jin wrote:
Rocketman wrote:
Dayspring wrote:One thing that always tickled me was that with all this crap-terminology, fans never made a term for Dende, Krillin and Gohan once they received a boost from Saichoru. :P
Nothing cool happened, that's why. :P
Yeah, it didn't really do anything, I mean, Gohan got in a few good hits on Recoome, but he still lost. Krillin got beat in one kick.
Their power levels went from "About 1,500" to "Over 10,000". I think that's fairly significant.

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Post by Saiya-jin » Thu Feb 23, 2006 4:58 pm

Duo wrote:Their power levels went from "About 1,500" to "Over 10,000". I think that's fairly significant.
I know it the power levels went up high, it's just that you can't actually see the improvement when they fight(Thats my opinion).

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Post by SpaceKappa » Thu Feb 23, 2006 5:25 pm

Well, you can't see any improvement because they're still fighting someone who is much stronger than they are.

If you took up boxing for three months, you'd be much better at it than when you started, but you'd still get you ass kicked by Mike Tyson.

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Post by Chaos Saiyajin » Thu Feb 23, 2006 6:04 pm

Dayspring wrote:One thing that always tickled me was that with all this crap-terminology, fans never made a term for Dende, Krillin and Gohan once they received a boost from Saichoru. :P
:P I've heard a lot of people call it 'Unlcok Potential' since the Budokai games came out...O_o
I really, really need to get back into the habit of posting.

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Post by Casual Matt » Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:04 pm

Well, I know that "Mystic Gohan" has been used on toy packaging in North America.

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Ultimate Gohan has been used in Budokai Tenkaichi. So has Majin Vegeta, for that matter.

Kid Buu has had a Saga named that by FUNimation, and the name "Super Buu" has been used in official context as well.

Is "Zenkai" really considered a fan term? Because the word Zenkai was used in the first Japanese outro for Dragon Ball Z.

I don't know about Super Perfect Cell. In Budokai Tenkaichi, he was just called "Perfect Cell - Perfect Form"

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Post by VegettoEX » Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:10 pm

The Lecherous Muten Roshi wrote:Is "Zenkai" really considered a fan term? Because the word Zenkai was used in the first Japanese outro for Dragon Ball Z.
VegettoEX wrote:For a detailed explanation of how "zenkai" is (mostly-incorrectly) used, please read:

http://db.schuby.org/daizex/viewtopic.php?p=56781
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Post by Dayspring » Fri Feb 24, 2006 1:11 am

Why is everybody using Funi's dub and merchandise as canon these last few days? :?
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