Death Battle! Goku VS Superman Disscussion Thread

[Hellspawn28]

So... When is the video coming out?

They said around the end of October? So maybe the week before Halloween.

[dario03]

I wonder if they'll use that Kienzan Goku pulled of in Movie 3.

Even if they don't, Goku uses one against Super Buu in the Manga. However I'm pretty sure they will use filler since for Vegeta they talked about things in GT. So that means the Kienzan definitely can be stopped since Krillin's did nothing against Cell in the Anime.

[TonyTheTiger]

Seems like it's all inclusive. Including GT makes sense to me, regardless. It doesn't really change too much. We get a new Super Saiyan form that's vaguely stronger than the previous one and...that's about it. There is that whole thing about the ending, whether or not Goku is an immortal ghost or something but I don't think that would factor into the match.

[VegettoEX]

There was more to pull out of DBGT than you might expect.

[TonyTheTiger]

Awesome. Death Battles are pretty much the pinnacle of this kind of thing. They really do their homework, sometimes too much (there was at least a little disappointment over Peach getting powers extrapolated from the Mario sports games). But, really, in this case everything is fair game.

It sounds like a perfect match up if they take everything Dragon Ball and put it up against everything Superman circa 1986-Present. Effectively the "origin" of both happening at roughly the same time.

It also looks like December 21 is the release date.

http://www.screwattack.com/video/Prophe ... ns-4370001

http://www.screwattack.com/video/Yellow ... es-4457331

[Gonstead]

December 21st? Oh dear... XD

[Hellspawn28]

I guess they will troll us on December 21st with some joke video .

[TonyTheTiger]

I hope there's an actual winner. I'd feel cheated if it just ends with everything blowing up and a "the Mayans told ya so" comment tacked on.

[dario03]

I hope there's an actual winner. I'd feel cheated if it just ends with everything blowing up and a "the Mayans told ya so" comment tacked on.

I could see them getting hunted down for that

I've been wondering if maybe they would call it a tie and go with 3 different fights with the various versions of Superman. He does range in power at such a insane level that it would almost make sense to have Goku win 1, Superman win 1, and for a tie. Probably won't since they've never done that before but just a thought.

[TonyTheTiger]

If they only consider Post-Crisis he doesn't bounce around that much, and it's usually explained in various ways whenever he does. Goku scales is power at least as much over the course of the story, not to mention a few wacky moments in the movies, but obviously the goal is to take both characters at their best.

[dario03]

Yeah Goku scales a lot but besides some odd little things and some movie stuff he basically just gets stronger. Where as Superman just flat out jumps in power all over the place based on what source your looking at. Its like in the cartoon from ~12 years ago he struggles to stop a plane from crashing but in one of the recent cartoon movies he says he can move the planet and says it casually like its no big deal. And if they take the characters at their best shouldn' they use Pre Crisis or some of Supermans other insane versions. I don't see how it could even be a close fight if they do.

[Herms]

I'd feel cheated if it just ends with everything blowing up and a "the Mayans told ya so" comment tacked on.

Is it bad that I'd rather see that now?

[dbzfan7]

If they only consider Post-Crisis he doesn't bounce around that much, and it's usually explained in various ways whenever he does. Goku scales is power at least as much over the course of the story, not to mention a few wacky moments in the movies, but obviously the goal is to take both characters at their best.

They use current versions/main versions. If they used most powerful we would have God Spawn, King Thor, Godwave Wonder Woman, God Kratos, etc.

[batistabus]

If GT's fair game, we'd better see some Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta.

[VegettoEX]

If GT's fair game, we'd better see some Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta.

I believe one of the standard "DEATH BATTLE" rules across all fights is that "no outside help is allowed". I would take this to mean fusion would be out.

[batistabus]

If GT's fair game, we'd better see some Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta.

I believe one of the standard "DEATH BATTLE" rules across all fights is that "no outside help is allowed". I would take this to mean fusion would be out.

Yeah, I just figured that out after watching the Vegeta vs Shadow video.

If GT's in, then would it be safe to assume movies, filler, and guidebooks are too?

[Hellspawn28]

Death Battle uses every feat that exist. Superman is likely going to use his All Star Superman feats which had him to punch another Planet from what I can remember.

[Herms]

If GT's fair game, we'd better see some Super Saiyan 4 Gogeta.

I believe one of the standard "DEATH BATTLE" rules across all fights is that "no outside help is allowed". I would take this to mean fusion would be out.

Superman should fuse with Batman to counter Gogeta.

[dbzfan7]

Death Battle uses every feat that exist. Superman is likely going to use his All Star Superman feats which had him to punch another Planet from what I can remember.

No they don't. If they did they would have used God Spawn, God Kratos, God Wave Wonder Woman, King Thor, Hyper Sonic, Cosmic Spider-man, Batman with (Supes or GL powers) (Beyond suit or Suit of Sorrows) the list goes on. They only use standard and currently known statistics. They might mention some of these other feats but stick with the common known versions. Even for Link and Cloud they stayed only to basics.

[TonyTheTiger]

Yeah but All-Star Superman isn't an alternate Superman, it is the Superman everyone knows. It's place in canon is questionable but it's not like he's notably different from the standard like those other examples.