Pan has black eyes.SparkingMeteor wrote:Could that possibly be a Pan (with Blue eyes :P ) from the future? Perhaps she comes to warn them of this guy like Trunks. Who knows at this point...
That's not a funny joke.SparkingMeteor wrote: was kinda hopin' for Broly to come back somehow. He was the best bad guy in DBZ history :D
No indication about Makaioshin's appearances is given in the only mendia they are mentioned, Makaioshin can potentially have anthropomorphic animal-like appearances similar to Oolong.Chuquita wrote:While Whis' ears don't fit for what I've seen from the DBO makaioshin (well, inferred makaioshin since earlier in the thread I read that no one came out and said that Towa is or isn't one), the white hair and blue skin definitely fit that theory.
We know that the Makaioshin are Shinians, and Shinians are not anthropomorphic animals. So no, Bils can't be a Makaioshin from what we currently know. Whis however does look like one.JeffJarrett wrote:No indication about Makaioshin's appearances is given in the only mendia they are mentioned, Makaioshin can potentially have anthropomorphic animal-like appearances similar to Oolong.
So even Bils can be a Makaioshin.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
Thank God.SparkingMeteor wrote:that was a joke my friend
Kaioshin of the East had Shin as his nickname, so maybe Whis and Towa are nicknames. Or maybe they are not divide into Makaioshin of the North, of the East, etc, like the Kaio & the Kaioshin, but have their own names, like the Shinians, Kibito for example.Saiga wrote:It's weird that they would have names if they're Makaioshin anyway.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
Cipher wrote:Also, you can seriously like whatever and still get laid. That's a revelation that'll hit you at some point.
We don't actually know that for sure. Toriyama's explanation in the SEG: Character Volume is vague and only says that bad Shinjin (Core People) go to be with the Makaio and Makaioshin.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:We know that the Makaioshin are Shinians, and Shinians are not anthropomorphic animals. So no, Bils can't be a Makaioshin from what we currently know. Whis however does look like one.
Just like we know Humans are not animals, or aliens?DBZGTKOSDH wrote:We know that the Makaioshin are Shinians, and Shinians are not anthropomorphic animals. So no, Bils can't be a Makaioshin from what we currently know. Whis however does look like one.
Agreed, he's much more iconic looking compared to his Cell and Boo designs. Though, I did like his bowl cut in the pre Artificial Human era.TonyTheTiger wrote:Long hair Yamcha is best Yamcha.
Cipher wrote:Also, you can seriously like whatever and still get laid. That's a revelation that'll hit you at some point.
Oh, wow, this guy's right! The beginning of Dragon Ball GT starts with Goku not recognizing PilafTheRed259 wrote:If Pilaf meets Son Goku and recognizes him , that means that the new and ''canon to the manga'' movie ignores DragonBall Gt .
Pretty much if ANYTHING is considered canon apart from the original Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z series it's going to be this movie Or that's how I see it anyway :p It's kind of hard to believe that Goku wouldn't recognize Pilaf after he has just recently (sort of) seen them :pHave we ever even seen a Shinjin? Do they all look like Kaio, except for the ones from golden fruits, who would look like Kaioshin? Or do Shinjin look completely different, and change appearance when they take on a specific role? Or maybe it's a bit of both; maybe Makaioshin look like Kaioshin at first, but mutate/transform upon becoming evil. Anything is possible considering how little we know.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:We know that the Makaioshin are Shinians, and Shinians are not anthropomorphic animals.
Yeah, no. Goku's a dunce. GT took place 5 years after Z. Still enough time to forget Pilaf, especially since Pilaf's a joke character.worldmonsters wrote:Oh, wow, this guy's right! The beginning of Dragon Ball GT starts with Goku not recognizing PilafTheRed259 wrote:If Pilaf meets Son Goku and recognizes him , that means that the new and ''canon to the manga'' movie ignores DragonBall Gt .
It's called a joke.Hellspawn28 wrote:Fox is help distributing the movie. We can stop assuming that they are going to have big name actors in this movie please. Why would there be in the first place? None of the Pokemon movies, the Digimon movie and Yu-Gi-Oh: The Movie had any big name stars. It would be a waste of money to have big name stars in this movie since it's likely not going to have a major release here in the US and no one in the US would see this movie outside the fanbase.
Thanks for pointing it out. I was actually wondering about this last night, if it should be fully translated as "Core People" rather than Shinian. Glad to see I was actually right.Herms wrote: We don't actually know that for sure. Toriyama's explanation in the SEG: Character Volume is vague and only says that bad Shinjin (Core People) go to be with the Makaio and Makaioshin.
On a side note, I keep seeing people use "Shinians" to refer to the race of the Kaio/shins, and if people are going to debate Mystic vs Ultimate Gohan, then I might as well put my foot down on this. I understand the reasoning behind "Shinian", but it's mistaken. You really have to either fully translate the word, or leave it fully untranslated; doing it halfway does work (much like "Kaio", fittingly enough).
Though they may look superficially similiar, "Shinjin" is different from "Saiya-jin" or "Namekku-seijin"; it's not a proper race or place name modified by "person". Instead, it's a regular noun modified by "person", so it's more in the vein of words like "Majin" (magical/demonic person). Hopefully you can appreciate how pointless it would be to translate Majin as "Maian"; it's like translating "kyojin" (giant") as "kyoian", or "gaijin" (foreigner) as "gaian". The same goes for translating Shinjin as "Shinian".
Saiya-jin means "People of Saiya", and so "Saiyans" accurately conveys that idea in English; Namekku-seijin means "People of Planet Namek", and so "Namekians" likewise does the job there. But Shinjin means "Core People", and "Shinian" does not convey this in English.
We seen Kibito, 5 Kaio, and 6 Kaioshin, so overall, it's 12 Shinjin.Bussani wrote:Have we ever even seen a Shinjin? Do they all look like Kaio, except for the ones from golden fruits, who would look like Kaioshin? Or do Shinjin look completely different, and change appearance when they take on a specific role? Or maybe it's a bit of both; maybe Makaioshin look like Kaioshin at first, but mutate/transform upon becoming evil. Anything is possible considering how little we know.DBZGTKOSDH wrote:We know that the Makaioshin are Shinians, and Shinians are not anthropomorphic animals.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
