Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

Discussion regarding the entirety of the franchise in a general (meta) sense, including such aspects as: production, trends, merchandise, fan culture, and more.
User avatar
Gyt Kaliba
Kicks it Old-School
Posts: 8869
Joined: Fri Sep 28, 2007 1:38 am
Location: Arkansas
Contact:

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:15 pm

TheDevilsCorpse wrote:Why not? There was usually two movies a year during the original run, I don't see why they couldn't have another one ready by the end of 2014, especially if they start working on the plot now while the animators are, well, animating, the story they already finished...
Yeah, but those were much shorter than what I presume this film is gonna be. Not to mention they've still got One Piece to balance, and possibly the next Sailor Moon incarnation as well. And Toriko. I'm just saying Toei might have a lot on their plate to shove another movie out that quickly.

Not to mention they may want to see how well this one does first (though I think it's going to make back it's budget and then some by a LOT).

That's just my thoughts on it though, and believe me - I would be thrilled to turn out to be wrong on this. Hell, I'm voting against myself in my heart. :lol:
AniManga Travelogue - Currently Reviewing: Dragon Ball (Z)
Twitter
Switch Friend Code: SW-0745-6427-7791 (let's play some Dragon Ball: The Breakers!)

User avatar
TheDevilsCorpse
Moderator
Posts: 11378
Joined: Sun Jun 20, 2010 4:34 am
Contact:

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:22 pm

They could accomplish all that by having Toriyama and someone else bat around ideas until the movie is released. If it flops, which I don't see happening, well...plenty of stuff gets scrapped before exiting the concept stages. lol Point being they don't have to charge in head first. I'd think close to two years would be a decent chunk of time for the project when they were previously chucking out two films in half that before.
Direct translations of the Korean DB Online timeline and guidebook.
My personal "canon" and BP list. (Coming Soon)

User avatar
Ryuman
Regular
Posts: 599
Joined: Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:33 am
Location: Taunton, England

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Ryuman » Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:23 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:...If he's that strong though, why would a rumor about a Saiyan that defeated Freeza even be on his radar though? Why would Freeza have even been on his radar?
Hmm.... Okay, here's what I think. Bils wakes up after sleeping for a while and hears about some dude named Freeza who was apparently so strong that he had the Universe under his rule. He naturally assumes he's pretty strong (But under his standards, so he overestimates). He then hears that someone EVEN STRONGER comes along and beats him, so he overestimates Goku's strength as well. Poor Bils, he's gonna be disappointed :lol:

User avatar
Gyt Kaliba
Kicks it Old-School
Posts: 8869
Joined: Fri Sep 28, 2007 1:38 am
Location: Arkansas
Contact:

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:25 pm

True enough. Like I said, I'd love nothing more than being wrong on this and seeing another movie as soon as 2014. I'd love to see where they take it from here, since they're facing off with a god this time around.

I still can't wait to see how Pilaf ties into all of this, even if it's just a gag towards the beginning and end or something.
Ryuman wrote:Hmm.... Okay, here's what I think. Bils wakes up after sleeping for a while and hears about some dude named Freeza who was apparently so strong that he had the Universe under his rule. He naturally assumes he's pretty strong (But under his standards, so he overestimates). He then hears that someone EVEN STRONGER comes along and beats him, so he overestimates Goku's strength as well. Poor Bils, he's gonna be disappointed :lol:
That could work pretty well, it gels nicely with what we do already know.
Last edited by Gyt Kaliba on Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:27 pm, edited 1 time in total.
AniManga Travelogue - Currently Reviewing: Dragon Ball (Z)
Twitter
Switch Friend Code: SW-0745-6427-7791 (let's play some Dragon Ball: The Breakers!)

User avatar
TheDevilsCorpse
Moderator
Posts: 11378
Joined: Sun Jun 20, 2010 4:34 am
Contact:

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:27 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:I still can't wait to see how Pilaf ties into all of this, even if it's just a gag towards the beginning and end or something.
Shu trying to chase Bils up a tree?
Direct translations of the Korean DB Online timeline and guidebook.
My personal "canon" and BP list. (Coming Soon)

User avatar
Kaboom
Moderator
Posts: 14504
Joined: Mon Jan 09, 2006 6:07 pm

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Kaboom » Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:27 pm

But still, taking his growth into account and things like Super Saiyan 2 and 3 on top of it, even Goku's probably capping out at a few hundred times stronger than Freeza now. So Billy must be REALLY something if Goku's not even a challenge for him.

Which, and I can't help but think this way at least a little, would explain this guy being a threat to guys like Gohan and Gotenks, too.
[ BlueSky | Bsky: DBS Plots | DeviantArt | Twitter (Depreciated) ]

[PSN/Steam: KaboomKrusader | Switch FC: SW-4304-7361-2824 | ACNH Dream Address: DA-1637-4046-7415 ("SlamZone") ]

User avatar
Wobbuffet
Beyond-the-Beyond Newbie
Posts: 471
Joined: Sun Aug 08, 2010 1:27 am
Contact:

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Wobbuffet » Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:42 pm

I bet that next year we'll discuss about Bils' status in Trunks timeline.
Sorry, I can't speak English very well, but I'm trying my best.
This is My Anime List.

User avatar
Ryuman
Regular
Posts: 599
Joined: Fri Nov 23, 2012 12:33 am
Location: Taunton, England

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Ryuman » Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:47 pm

Wobbuffet wrote:I bet that next year we'll discuss about Bils' status in Trunks timeline.
Oh God, we are, aren't we?

User avatar
Chuquita
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 15255
Joined: Sat Nov 20, 2004 2:16 am
Location: Somewhere

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Chuquita » Mon Dec 03, 2012 2:47 pm

I should've asked before, but near the end of the 2nd paragraph where the plot summary is I see Vegeta's name; is it just there in a "Goku, Vegeta, and everyone else" way, or does it say something about what happens to Vegeta himself?
On hiatus.

User avatar
JulieYBM
Patreon Supporter
Posts: 18462
Joined: Mon Jan 16, 2006 10:25 pm
Location: 🏳️‍⚧️🍉

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by JulieYBM » Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:04 pm

Toei Animation probably won't have a new One Piece movie until December 2014, two years from now, meaning there is still a good year or so for another Dragon Ball movie to go into production for a 2014 release. Saint Seiya Omega will likely end in April or May, leaving a small gap in Toei's schedule before Sailor Moon's new animated project is supposed to come out.
💙💜💖 She/Her 💙💜💖

User avatar
Cold Skin
I Live Here
Posts: 2724
Joined: Fri Jun 05, 2009 6:09 pm
Location: France

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Cold Skin » Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:04 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:But...how does a 'God of Destruction' BALANCE the universe?
Wasn't it implied that his name could possibly be "Virus" (Birusu)?
While the virus is kept asleep somewhere, everything remains balanced.
When the virus is awoken and in activity, it spreads destruction all over.

Maybe that's what's meant in this plot text: it's the fact that he's sleeping that brings balance to the universe.
When awake, he's the ultimate entity of destruction ("Evil God" for a living being, "virus" for a computer).

But I don't know Japanese phonetics enough to know if it can be a possible inspiration.
I remember someone mentionned that possibility of "Virus" though.
Last edited by Cold Skin on Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:15 pm, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
InfernalVegito
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1299
Joined: Mon Sep 06, 2010 11:18 am
Location: Universe

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by InfernalVegito » Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:14 pm

Kaboom wrote:But still, taking his growth into account and things like Super Saiyan 2 and 3 on top of it, even Goku's probably capping out at a few hundred times stronger than Freeza now. So Billy must be REALLY something if Goku's not even a challenge for him.

Which, and I can't help but think this way at least a little, would explain this guy being a threat to guys like Gohan and Gotenks, too.
Who knows if Goku will even be able to go all out against him? Maybe he'll only fight him in SSJ and that's why they say "Bils completely overpowered him". I wouldn't hold my breath.
And if Bils has some fucked up magical powers that prevent Goku from transforming or going max power, then that's also kinda disapointing.
BT3 off meds | The final fight

Ah, the Alpha and the Omega. As all life was created from Chaos...so shall it be DESTROYED!!!

The wails of machines | Singing cold harmony | Shifting air upward | Entranced by the breeze | Light pours like blood | Into a cosmic sea | Of stars crystallized | In a frozen symphony

Vegetto kicking you into orbit theme

User avatar
Chuquita
Namekian Warrior
Posts: 15255
Joined: Sat Nov 20, 2004 2:16 am
Location: Somewhere

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Chuquita » Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:16 pm

Cold Skin wrote:
Gyt Kaliba wrote:But...how does a 'God of Destruction' BALANCE the universe?
Wasn't it implied that his name could possibly be "Virus" (Birusu)?
While the virus is kept asleep somewhere, everything remains balanced.
When the virus is awoken and in activity, it spreads destruction all over.

Maybe that's what's meant in this plot text: it's the fact that he's sleeping that brings balance to the universe.
When awake, he's the ultimate entity of destruction ("Evil God" for a living being, "virus" for a computer).
That sounds kinda like Sailor Saturn, and I am surprisingly ok with that.

Now that we know he's not a "Pilsner" pun,I do hope it's a pun on "Virus".
On hiatus.

kei17
I Live Here
Posts: 4142
Joined: Wed Dec 05, 2007 9:23 am

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by kei17 » Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:23 pm

What bugs me is Birusu's line: "地球にはもっと破壊しがいのあるヤツがいるといい…" This sentence is kinda strange that it has two possible meanings.

1) There should be a tougher guy on the earth.
2) I hope there is a tougher guy on the earth.

Or maybe it's a typo and he actually says "いるという" (It is said that there is-).

User avatar
Hellspawn28
Patreon Supporter
Posts: 15683
Joined: Mon Sep 07, 2009 9:50 pm
Location: Maryland, USA

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:33 pm

I think a 30th anniversary movie would be possible in 2014. Some franchises get nothing special, but I can see Dragon Ball getting something good in 2014. I still like to see something similar to Sonic Generations which would have Goku meeting up with his younger self.
She/Her
PS5 username: Guyver_Spawn_27
LB Profile: https://letterboxd.com/Hellspawn28/

User avatar
Herms
Kanzenshuu Admin Emeritus
Posts: 10550
Joined: Thu Oct 21, 2004 6:40 pm
Location: Jupiter
Contact:

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Herms » Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:44 pm

Dorexx wrote:The question is whether Birusu was awake during Buu's creation and first rampage. By the way, if he's supposed to maintain the balance of the Universe, then who did that while he was sleeping?
Perhaps the universe has been unbalanced this whole time? For that matter, perhaps Whis is a god of creation who counterbalances Bils, and is therefore not actually a villain as we've assumed? Or maybe Whis was originally good or neutral, but has become evil due to not having Bils around to counterbalance him?
Kanzenshuu: Is that place still around?
Sometimes, I tweet things
We might, if they screamed all the time, for no good reason.

User avatar
Gyt Kaliba
Kicks it Old-School
Posts: 8869
Joined: Fri Sep 28, 2007 1:38 am
Location: Arkansas
Contact:

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:46 pm

Herms wrote:
Dorexx wrote:The question is whether Birusu was awake during Buu's creation and first rampage. By the way, if he's supposed to maintain the balance of the Universe, then who did that while he was sleeping?
Perhaps the universe has been unbalanced this whole time? For that matter, perhaps Whis is a god of creation who counterbalances Bils, and is therefore not actually a villain as we've assumed? Or maybe Whis was originally good or neutral, but has become evil due to not having Bils around to counterbalance him?
That's actually a really good theory, since their names are kinda, sorta, a little bit, similar. And them both being new characters, they've gotta be connected somehow.
AniManga Travelogue - Currently Reviewing: Dragon Ball (Z)
Twitter
Switch Friend Code: SW-0745-6427-7791 (let's play some Dragon Ball: The Breakers!)

User avatar
Sunlight & City Night
Beyond Newbie
Posts: 158
Joined: Thu Jun 03, 2004 4:39 pm
Location: Cleethorpes, England
Contact:

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Sunlight & City Night » Mon Dec 03, 2012 3:52 pm

Obviously Pilaf in his on going quest for revenge on Son Goku wakes Bils up? :D
Anyway as Hujio said on the site this is an exciting time to be a Dragonball fan!
"HEAD CHA LA!"
------------------------
DBO - Pauten - Server 1
------------------------
http://sonpauten.deviantart.com/
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=539041065
http://twitter.com/#!/sonPauten

User avatar
Tanooki Kuribo
I Live Here
Posts: 4563
Joined: Wed Sep 08, 2004 12:23 am
Location: Manhattan, New York
Contact:

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Tanooki Kuribo » Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:09 pm

Ah! Finally! Some plot points!

It's interesting how Goku is defeated and someone stronger has to step up. Isn't that what they wanted you to think for movie 13 as well? Oh well. First new movie in 17 years, I'm excited!

User avatar
sailorspazz
Advanced Regular
Posts: 1208
Joined: Sun Jan 11, 2004 8:55 pm
Location: ZamaBlack love shack
Contact:

Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by sailorspazz » Mon Dec 03, 2012 4:40 pm

Chuquita wrote:I should've asked before, but near the end of the 2nd paragraph where the plot summary is I see Vegeta's name; is it just there in a "Goku, Vegeta, and everyone else" way, or does it say something about what happens to Vegeta himself?
Yep, it's being used in the general "Vegeta, Gohan, and all the other regular Z warriors..." sort of way. So no details yet on what specific roles any of the other characters besides Gokuu are going to have. But it should turn out to be something fun, especially with that adorable Vegeta figure we've seen pictures of ^_^
A veteran fan-girl past her prime
Host of Fujoshi Trash Talk at Anibros Creative podcast network
Twitter | Tumblr | Fanfics at fanfiction.net and ao3 | DeviantArt | YouTube

Post Reply