Would Piccolo Daimaou have lived that long?

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Would Piccolo Daimaou have lived that long?

Post by Kendamu » Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:18 am

In Dragonball, Piccolo Daimaou had this plan where he'd destroy one whole district in a random drawing per year for 40-something years until they were all destroyed. Question is, with Kami wondering if his lifespan was going to end naturally relatively soon (during the Saiyan arc) and with Daimaou being linked to Kami's life force, would Piccolo have lived long enough to destroy every district on that schedule?

We know that Kami would've lived at least another decade or so from when Piccolo took over the Earth, but what about after that? Would he get bored and just destroy everything before that point? Would Piccolo sense that his life was naturally coming to and end through Kami? Could he just forcefully absorb Kami and call it a day? Would Kami have come down and finished the job himself? I honestly don't know what to think. That's why I'm asking for your thoughts.
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Re: Would Piccolo Daimaou have lived that long?

Post by Saiga » Thu Dec 06, 2012 1:22 am

I think Kami was just mistaken about his natural death drawing near. After Piccolo died, it was never mentioned that he was worried about it anymore or anything.
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Re: Would Piccolo Daimaou have lived that long?

Post by Herms » Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:10 am

Saiga wrote:I think Kami was just mistaken about his natural death drawing near. After Piccolo died, it was never mentioned that he was worried about it anymore or anything.
I'd assume his lifespan must be drawing somewhat near to the end, for him to even consider it it a possibility that it would naturally end in a year. I mean, it'd be strange if (for instance) Yamcha said "I have a premonition that I'll die next year, but I don't know if the Saiyans get me or my lifespan naturally ends then."
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Re: Would Piccolo Daimaou have lived that long?

Post by Saiga » Thu Dec 06, 2012 2:12 am

Herms wrote:
Saiga wrote:I think Kami was just mistaken about his natural death drawing near. After Piccolo died, it was never mentioned that he was worried about it anymore or anything.
I'd assume his lifespan must be drawing somewhat near to the end, for him to even consider it it a possibility that it would naturally end in a year. I mean, it'd be strange if (for instance) Yamcha said "I have a premonition that I'll die next year, but I don't know if the Saiyans get me or my lifespan naturally ends then."
But why would he know the lifespan of a Namekian if he remembers jack shit about them?
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Re: Would Piccolo Daimaou have lived that long?

Post by the joy » Thu Dec 06, 2012 3:02 am

Very good question, I think Kami was right about feeling his end approach, he even asked Goku to replace him as God earlier in the saga. It might have been melted with the premonition of the Saiyans coming though, who knows.
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Re: Would Piccolo Daimaou have lived that long?

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Thu Dec 06, 2012 5:58 pm

Saiga wrote:
Herms wrote:
Saiga wrote:I think Kami was just mistaken about his natural death drawing near. After Piccolo died, it was never mentioned that he was worried about it anymore or anything.
I'd assume his lifespan must be drawing somewhat near to the end, for him to even consider it it a possibility that it would naturally end in a year. I mean, it'd be strange if (for instance) Yamcha said "I have a premonition that I'll die next year, but I don't know if the Saiyans get me or my lifespan naturally ends then."
But why would he know the lifespan of a Namekian if he remembers jack shit about them?
Maybe he just feels that his lifespan might be drawing to an end.

But personally, I think he was probably mistaken. Like you said, he doesn't actually know the lifespan of a Namekian, unless you're going to go with the "racial memory" theory that he suggested when he created the Dragon Balls. He lived for six more years before he merged with Piccolo, and didn't look or act any different than he always had done before. He certainly didn't look like he was close to death. I think he just figured that he knew he was going to die in a year, but if it wasn't through Piccolo being killed by the Saiyans, the only other way would be a natural death, since it's not as if he was going to fight the Saiyans.

Then again, he could've just been lucky. Like humans that live for over 100 years. If you want a real-world analogy, maybe you could think of it in terms of a 65-year-old retired martial artist who can't fight quite as well as he did when he was young and may've had one or two heart problems, but is overall healthy, but knows that he could drop dead at any time now that he's in the realm of "old age".
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Re: Would Piccolo Daimaou have lived that long?

Post by Mjb1985 » Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:53 pm

I think Kami was accurate in his prediction of death coming , which is obviously a forgotten sentiment after the Saiyan Saga , but perhaps we can easily solve that with the thought of being wished back to life possibly altering his natural life span somehow. Doesn't really make a lot of sense considering Guru's situation though. It's just an author abandoning a point of view he once held. Similar to how Yemma had to battle Raditz to get him to go to hell , yet never suggested spirits can fight back later.

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Re: Would Piccolo Daimaou have lived that long?

Post by Piccolo Daimao » Fri Dec 07, 2012 5:57 pm

How could you reconcile Kami basically saying, "I think I might die in the next year, but if it's not through Piccolo being killed by the Saiyans, then it may be me dying of natural causes", and then him continuing to live for six years without any signs of deterioration? Either Toriyama forgot (as it was never referenced afterwards, which isn't really a surprise, since it was just an offhand comment and Kami barely had a relevant role in this series after this arc; he was dead for most of the Freeza arc, and merged with Piccolo in the Cell arc), or Kami was just wrong. Or lucky.
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Re: Would Piccolo Daimaou have lived that long?

Post by Mjb1985 » Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:04 pm

It's definitely something AT introduced and forgot, or didn't have use for anymore. Probably was trying to make it more dramatic and later was like meh...

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Re: Would Piccolo Daimaou have lived that long?

Post by Saiga » Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:23 pm

I really think the best way of looking at it is how Piccolo Daimao described it here:
Piccolo Daimao wrote:
But personally, I think he was probably mistaken. Like you said, he doesn't actually know the lifespan of a Namekian, unless you're going to go with the "racial memory" theory that he suggested when he created the Dragon Balls. He lived for six more years before he merged with Piccolo, and didn't look or act any different than he always had done before. He certainly didn't look like he was close to death. I think he just figured that he knew he was going to die in a year, but if it wasn't through Piccolo being killed by the Saiyans, the only other way would be a natural death, since it's not as if he was going to fight the Saiyans.
That's what I meant with my first post, but Daimao described it much better. The whole bit about his natural life ending seemed to be him just brainstorming ideas.
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Re: Would Piccolo Daimaou have lived that long?

Post by Mjb1985 » Fri Dec 07, 2012 7:25 pm

It's a reasonable way to handle the situation. How do you handle the Raditz vs Yemma situation?

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Re: Would Piccolo Daimaou have lived that long?

Post by NANLIT » Sat Dec 08, 2012 12:23 am

I think it was in the sense that Kami was already old and he figured that logically, he could die due to old age, but as it turned out, he was able to live for a few more years before merging back with Piccolo. People who are in their 70s or 80s can probably imagine that their health could go downhill very fast anytime, but on the other hand, they could be lucky and live to 90 or 100.

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Re: Would Piccolo Daimaou have lived that long?

Post by Mjb1985 » Sat Dec 08, 2012 1:29 am

He knew the exact time. It was suggested to have been a godly ability. Not just some random old person ability.

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Re: Would Piccolo Daimaou have lived that long?

Post by Ringworm128 » Sun Dec 09, 2012 7:15 am

Kami was old but he seemed to be alive and kicking. The Grand Elder was still alive and he couldn't even walk. So I think it's safe to say Kami would have lived for a bit longer.

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Re: Would Piccolo Daimaou have lived that long?

Post by Mjb1985 » Sun Dec 09, 2012 3:33 pm

The God had God abilities that told him when his death would come. That's how it's sold.

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