Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Hellspawn28 » Sat Dec 22, 2012 1:40 am

mattymoron wrote:What are the odds, do you guys think, that we'll get a theatrical release over here in the States?
As I mention many times before, I think we see it get released in cons and film festivals. Not a major theatrical release like most people are hoping for. If we do get a big release then I doubt it's going to break box office records and be #1 at the box office like people want it to be.
Chuquita wrote: If FOX is distributing, I just hope they don't cause trouble for Funi. I want that DVD release with the option of Japanese audio and English subs, and I know there are a lot of people who want Funi's dub and would be upset if FOX decided to dub it themselves.
I think Fox will end up teaming up with Funi to dub the series. Warner Bros distributed the first Pokemon movies while 4kids dubbed the movies. I think the same will likely happen here.
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Post by NeoKING » Sat Dec 22, 2012 1:44 am

Just because Fox distributes it doesn't mean they'd dub it, guys. Pioneer distributed the first three movies, but it was dubbed by Ocean's dubbing studios.

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Post by Chuquita » Sat Dec 22, 2012 1:46 am

I hope they can work together. It'd be upsetting if they didn't.


I went through the 2ch thread, this one under Google translator (I know it's not the best translation machine) said something at the end about Birusu's name being something gourmet-related and about him being a star? Does that mean like, a personification of a star in outer space (which would explain him vs Goku in space in the trailer) or are they speaking in the "he's famous" way?
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Post by penguintruth » Sat Dec 22, 2012 2:17 am

Yes, Fox is going to dub it. With the cast of The Simpsons.

Nancy Cartwright as Goku, Gohan, and Goten. Harry Shearer as Vegeta. Guest starring Albert Brooks as Bilsu.
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Post by bleed0range » Sat Dec 22, 2012 2:20 am

I really do think now that whis is the real bad guy and that Bius is being manipulated. The way I see this going, actually, is Goku & Co. will not be able to defeat Bius at all but once they uncover Whis' manipulation he will turn on him. I don't think he will befriend Goku and all that though.

It'd be nice if he said something like "come challenge me in my realm if you ever feel you may be strong enough" at the end and that explains where Goku goes at the end of GT. (Yeah I'm mostly kidding, I kind of hate GT and don't want this to connect to it really ahha)...

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Post by Herms » Sat Dec 22, 2012 2:26 am

Chuquita wrote:I went through the 2ch thread, this one under Google translator (I know it's not the best translation machine) said something at the end about Birusu's name being something gourmet-related and about him being a star? Does that mean like, a personification of a star in outer space (which would explain him vs Goku in space in the trailer) or are they speaking in the "he's famous" way? ]
So, Toriyama says that with the manga he gave up on creating a stronger enemy, but with this movie he took a hint from the screenwriter and came up with the god of destruction. The god of destruction is a gourmet. He easily destroys planets, because if he didn't, new planets couldn't be born.

I have no clue what Toriyama means by calling the god of destruction a "gourmet". Does it have some different connotation in Japanese I'm unaware of? Not sure. Long day of travelling. Have headache. Help, Kei17!
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Post by kei17 » Sat Dec 22, 2012 3:04 am

Herms wrote:I have no clue what Toriyama means by calling the god of destruction a "gourmet". Does it have some different connotation in Japanese I'm unaware of? Not sure. Long day of travelling. Have headache. Help, Kei17!
No, it doesn't. Bils is literally a gourmet. I've found another source: https://twitter.com/tatami0193

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Post by bleed0range » Sat Dec 22, 2012 3:11 am

Herms wrote:
Chuquita wrote:I went through the 2ch thread, this one under Google translator (I know it's not the best translation machine) said something at the end about Birusu's name being something gourmet-related and about him being a star? Does that mean like, a personification of a star in outer space (which would explain him vs Goku in space in the trailer) or are they speaking in the "he's famous" way? ]
So, Toriyama says that with the manga he gave up on creating a stronger enemy, but with this movie he took a hint from the screenwriter and came up with the god of destruction. The god of destruction is a gourmet. He easily destroys planets, because if he didn't, new planets couldn't be born.

I have no clue what Toriyama means by calling the god of destruction a "gourmet". Does it have some different connotation in Japanese I'm unaware of? Not sure. Long day of travelling. Have headache. Help, Kei17!
I looked at the Japanese wiki page for "Gourmet" and it seems to also possibly have the meaning of describing someone who "pursues pleasure often" ... I'm guessing maybe it can also be used to basically say he really enjoys doing it and desires to destroy things, kind of a gluttony thing? It was under the synonyms and related words section.

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Post by NeoKING » Sat Dec 22, 2012 3:13 am

"【敵について】 ビルスとウイスの"2人"で確定。そして2人とも、強くてグルメらしい。 ビルスについて。長い年月眠りにつき、目覚めた数年間は惑星を破壊する。新しい惑星を創るためには破壊が必要らしい。 ウイスについて。ビルスに付き添っている以外は謎。詳細はイヨク編集長がひた隠しした。"

Something about gourmets can be found in this tweet.

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Post by Chuquita » Sat Dec 22, 2012 3:16 am

A gourmet makes me think of someone who's picky and only chooses the rarest/hardest-to-find things for themselves.

Also, am I reading https://twitter.com/tatami0193 right? One of the tweets translates as Goku and Vegeta not participating in Bulma's birthday party.
【ビジュアル(下)について】 ブルマやビーデル達のビジュアルについて。このシーンは、実は「ブルマの誕生日会」。 ビジュアルには載っていないが、悟飯と悟天、トランクスも私服姿で参加している。 しかし、その誕生日会には悟空とベジータは参加していない。
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Post by bleed0range » Sat Dec 22, 2012 3:16 am

NeoKING wrote:"【敵について】 ビルスとウイスの"2人"で確定。そして2人とも、強くてグルメらしい。 ビルスについて。長い年月眠りにつき、目覚めた数年間は惑星を破壊する。新しい惑星を創るためには破壊が必要らしい。 ウイスについて。ビルスに付き添っている以外は謎。詳細はイヨク編集長がひた隠しした。"

Something about gourmets can be found in this tweet.
Google translated it to "About the enemy] of Uisu and birrus" Both men and. Confirm with "two people slept years., For several years I woke up because creating destroy the planet. A new planet seems to gourmet strong. About birrus except you have to attend to. birrus seems to require destruction. Uisu for details. mystery. the editor-in-chief motivation was Hitakakushi "

"Birrus seems to require destruction" kind of goes with the whole idea that he desires/seeks it out/gluttony thing I said above. I think it's like maybe saying after so long not destroying anything he REALLY wants to destroy something now. But I am not a translator or anything!

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Post by bleed0range » Sat Dec 22, 2012 3:21 am

Chuquita wrote:A gourmet makes me think of someone who's picky and only chooses the rarest/hardest-to-find things for themselves.
That could be it, maybe it's like saying he has a vast familiarity with destroying things so he is quite knowledgeable about it. The japanese wiki page basically says that. Like he is an expert on destroying planets/stars.

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Post by Chuquita » Sat Dec 22, 2012 3:26 am

So Birusu is basically a super fan of destruction. He's got an encyclopedic knowledge of how to mess stuff up.


I've been trying to translate stuff with this kanji/katakana/hiragana dictionary I bought. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. I only resorted to Google tonight because I'm so immensely tired that I don't think I could concentrate properly to go at it by hand.

I was really starting to fall asleep sitting here until I saw that thing about Goku and Vegeta skipping out on Bulma's birthday party. (Are they skipping out on it together? To go spar? Or does Vegeta have some mishap where he's going to get her a present and has inexplicably decided to take Goku with him to get it?)
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Post by batistabus » Sat Dec 22, 2012 3:34 am

Chuquita wrote:(Or does Vegeta have some mishap where he's going to get her a present and has inexplicably decided to take Goku with him to get it?)
Oh, please Dende let this be it.

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Post by Chuquita » Sat Dec 22, 2012 3:54 am

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Chuquita wrote:(Or does Vegeta have some mishap where he's going to get her a present and has inexplicably decided to take Goku with him to get it?)
Oh, please Dende let this be it.
It would be wonderful. X3 And so rife with possibilities. Things get so wonderfully silly when the two of them are together in non-battle situations.
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クリリン「悟空いないのか」
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クリリン「ブルマさんいくつになったんですか」
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Post by penguintruth » Sat Dec 22, 2012 4:23 am

Goku and Vegeta are at the shopping mall.

Vegeta: We have to find something good for her this year. She will tear my short hairs out if I don't.


Goku: Hm, let's start with an Orange Julius. Or twelve.


Vegeta: Not now, Kakkarot. Concentrate! Hey, what are you getting her?


Goku: Giant centipede. Been getting her that for years. We laugh about it. Well, I laugh. She shrieks and has a mini stroke. Oooh, Mrs. Fields!


Vegeta: Not now, damn it! I need to figure out what to get that woman. I mean, she's already insanely rich, what does she need?

Goku: Why don't you get her one of those long buzzing things? I don't know what they're for, but Chi-Chi has, like, eight of them. Goten and I use them to play like we're using swords, but Chi-Chi yells at us. They smell weird, too. Kinda like the inside of an old catcher's mitt.

Vegeta: Ugh. Thanks for putting that thought, which I will now have for eternity, into my mind, you simpleton. Here's a fiver, go get yourself a soft pretzel and shut up while I think.

Goku: Ooooh, pretzel! Oh hey, can we go to Wendy's later? I want to grab a Baconator or three. Just to tie me over until first dinner.

Vegeta: You just ate lunch a half hour ago!
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Post by DragonBoxZTheMovies » Sat Dec 22, 2012 4:57 am

The new trailer has finally been added to the official website. :P

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Post by Tracer1 » Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:15 am

Care to post the link

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Post by DragonBoxZTheMovies » Sat Dec 22, 2012 6:20 am

Tracer1 wrote:Care to post the link
Here ya' go:
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sat Dec 22, 2012 9:06 am

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bleed0range wrote:[Why would you think that when Gohan surpassed all of them at such a young age and Uub has even more potential likely than that being that he is the reincarnation of a being as powerful as Buu. I never took it as though Goku was looking for a "successor," Goku is more selfish when it comes to fighting than that. I'm sure he'd love for Uub to be a successor, but I honestly felt that his real purpose in training him was because he had such respect for that level of power and wanted to fight him again. Goku is a man who lives for the thrill of the fight and a challenge. At this point in the series, he has grown so powerful I'm sure he knows there's little chance of him finding another as powerful. ... and yet.
I dont buy the whole more potential thing. Last I checked only hybrid Saiyan/Humans had a ridiculous amount of potential. He is a kid with Buu's potential that can be increased. Toriyama brought him in as a successor. That was the whole point of the scene with the Kinto' un. Its the passing of the torch so to speak. Goku plans to train him so that they can have a good fight but Uub will not surpass Goku as long as Goku lives IMO. The idea that Uub will get more than 400x stronger than Goku is just silly to me. Besides the likelihood of stronger villains than Bils coming along at this point is unlikely.
Base Goku is not necessarily at Oob's level.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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