Unpopular DB opinions

[TheMightyOzaru]

but at least Vegeta's actions are justifiable to some extent.

What?! For the love of God, how are his actions in any way justifiable? He let himself be possessed by an evil sorcerer, chose to murder hundreds of innocent people, and purposely allowed the resurrection of a magical powered devil monster just so he could satisfy his own ego. Please, please explain how any of that is justifiable.

If you count continuing this glorious series justifiable then that is a reason. Majin Vegeta vs SSJ2 Goku is easily my favorite fight in the series so Vegeta did something good for the series but not the people in it. However this all could have been avoided if Kaioshin wasnt such a fool. Seriously we could sit here and blame people left and right but its not JUST Vegeta's fault.

[Gaffer Tape]

Well, since Vegeta is not self-aware and has no idea he's in a manga (except maybe in Neko Majin), no, I do not consider that a justification. And as someone who likes a good story, I need a better justification for a fight than a selfish, whiny prick stamping his foot until he gets what he wants. Personally, I think it's one of the least memorable fights in the series, but that's neither here nor there. If you like it, that's awesome.

But, no, I just don't see how there's any blame to go around except for Vegeta. Kaioshin's plan was slightly flawed, but only in the sense that he underestimated how well it could go. And despite that, surprisingly, with three superpowered fighters on his side, it was still a very sound plan that had practically a 99% chance of succeeding. Vegeta's "plan" did nothing but sabotage everyone else's efforts. So, no, I think that saying there's plenty of blame to go around is just a cop-out to defend a serial killer.

[DBZAOTA482]

but at least Vegeta's actions are justifiable to some extent.

What?! For the love of God, how are his actions in any way justifiable? He let himself be possessed by an evil sorcerer, chose to murder hundreds of innocent people, and purposely allowed the resurrection of a magical powered devil monster just so he could satisfy his own ego. Please, please explain how any of that is justifiable.

Yeah, it was to get what he wants but bare in mind Vegeta is a Saiyan prince therefore he is technically of royalty. People who are raised of higher-class or royal upbringings ARE very often conceited and demanding (see Bulma herself for example). Vegeta also wasn't raised to care for others, he was raised to believe that physical strength is the essence of life.

If I were led to believe I have herheld a pasel of such calibur for my entire life only to find out that belief is nothing more than a belief, I'd be in extreme anger and denial as well.

[Gaffer Tape]

Okay. That's why it's in-character for Vegeta. That still doesn't explain how it's a justifiable action.

[Thanos]

Goku was lying duh. Lol. Apparently that's an acceptable thought process to some posters.

There's no need to be patronizing, '12er.

- I don't think Gohan's Ultimate state will even be acknowledged in the new movie.

Yeah... I'd be will to bet that it won't be. I can't imagine a situation where they'd write that in. It seems to me as if they'd remembered the form in the first place, they would've kept it. But to ditch something that makes the character unique in favor of something that most of the main characters have, thereby ditching the novelty Gohan had and for them to subsequently go out of their way to explain why it no longer applies just seems like a rather unreasonable expectation.

[Zephyr]

Seriously we could sit here and blame people left and right but its not JUST Vegeta's fault.

True, it's not just Vegeta's fault. Kaioshin and Goku had their small contributions to screwing up the plan too, I guess. It's just that Vegeta's mistake amplified Kaioshin's otherwise easily fixable mistake, and directly instigated Goku's mistake.

And everyone seems to be blaming Kaioshin for not paying attention, while ignoring the fact that he had to watch over the entire universe. There's no way he could have known the exact right spot to look at the exact right time to be able to see people with SSj2 level power during the Cell arc.

[Ringworm128]

Step Into The Grand Tour is awesome.

[DBZAOTA482]

Step Into The Grand Tour is awesome.

YOU. CLOWN SUIT. NOW!!!

[Zephyr]

Step Into The Grand Tour is awesome.

Agreed. It's one of those "so bad it's good" things to me. Like Soulja Boy's "Bitch I Look like Goku" song.

Same with Rock the Dragon.

[Ringworm128]

Bitch I Look Like Goku is so bad it's good but RTD is pure awesome.

[Saiga]

Main Theme is pretty awesomecool. It just has odd lyrics.

[Rocketman]

The Japanese songs suck terribly.

[Insertclevername]

I like all the GT intro/outro music despite them having little to do with Dragon Ball lyrically.

I kind of don't like Vegeta all too much.

I like Post Saiyan arc Bulma's hair.

I don't find the fact that Goten & Trunks being able to go Super Saiyan at a young age too be as implausible as everyone says.

I think a Next Gen series is a good idea if it can act independently from the original story.

I don't think Chi-Chi is all that hot, at least as to how the anime portrays her during the Saiyan to Cell arcs. I do care for her before and after those arcs mind you

I think Gokuu is terribly boring as a main protagonist after the Saiyan arc. I always felt Gohan was better suited.

[Ringworm128]

Funimations "Jesus Goku" > Original Goku.

[DBZAOTA482]

Even though it sucks, GT has more plot to it than the Majin Boo Saga despite having more holes in it than swiss cheese.

[Saiga]

Even though it sucks, GT has more plot to it than the Majin Boo Saga despite having more holes in it than swiss cheese.

Well... yeah. It's a complete series vs a single story arc.

[DBZAOTA482]

Even though it sucks, GT has more plot to it than the Majin Boo Saga despite having more holes in it than swiss cheese.

Well... yeah. It's a complete series vs a single story arc.

There are OAVs that have more plot within their first epispodes than all of GT, and it's not that.

The point I was getting at is that the Majin Boo Saga was an unstructured mess. At least GT made an effort to connect itself with Goku, and the dragonballs. I mean, what did Majin Boo have to with anything?

[Saiga]

It had to do with the Kaioshin, who were connected to the Kaios, one of which is connected to Goku.

[Gonstead]

I find some people on here really over-exaggerate the rasp in Eric Vale's Trunks voice.

Certain moments in the English dub of Z did it better than the original, movies included.

[DBZAOTA482]

It had to do with the Kaioshin, who were connected to the Kaios, one of which is connected to Goku.

If Bibidi/Bobbidi had a personal grudge with the Kaios of some sorts then I'd be okay with it, but Bibidi/Bobbidi's motivation was irrelevant to the fact if Kaioshin was the supreme god or not (hell, Bibidi was like that long before Kaioshin was even promoted). His motivation was to take over the world, and Boo just wanted to destroy everything thus meaning Majin Boo had nothing to do with Goku, the dragonballs, or any of the previously-established story arcs. Why throw in a random villain when it's the final arc? It's a clear sign that Dragon Ball was Jumping the Shark by that Saga.