Dragonball Evolution's effect on the franchise

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Re: Dragonball Evolution's effect on the franchise

Post by Gokuden » Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:32 am

They could have done a CGI movie, with better results, why they chose live-action is ridiculous, Bulma was cute, that's it.
The problem between Batman and Robin and DBZ is that Batman had good movies before and after the B&R fiasco, whereas DBZ had only one official live-action adaptation and it shit the bed with nothing to salvage it. Not to mention those terrible live-action fan adaptations... UGH.

DBZ needs a CG film like Final Fantasy VII to fix what cinema exposure it already has.
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Re: Dragonball Evolution's effect on the franchise

Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:35 pm

Goku100xKamehameha wrote: Simple.
Great CG only lasted about a decade or so, Great Practical Effects lasted forever.
They always tend to look better as well. The destruction of the White House in Independence Day is much better looking then any of the destruction scenes in the 2012 movie in my opinion.
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If they thought the movie was going to be a blockbuster movie, then why didn't they gave it a blockbuster budget?
You can have a blockbuster even with a small budget. Mortal Kombat had a budget around 30 million and it end up being a huge hit. It was #1 for three weeks, spawn a sequel and a TV series.
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Re: Dragonball Evolution's effect on the franchise

Post by Daimakku » Thu Jan 03, 2013 8:38 pm

Gokuden wrote:They could have done a CGI movie, with better results, why they chose live-action is ridiculous, Bulma was cute, that's it.
The problem between Batman and Robin and DBZ is that Batman had good movies before and after the B&R fiasco, whereas DBZ had only one official live-action adaptation and it shit the bed with nothing to salvage it. Not to mention those terrible live-action fan adaptations... UGH.

DBZ needs a CG film like Final Fantasy VII to fix what cinema exposure it already has.
Why CG? If you're going to animate DBZ, it might as well be 2D, just like how the original series was...

Thankfully, that's exactly what's happening with BoG.

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Re: Dragonball Evolution's effect on the franchise

Post by Hellspawn28 » Thu Jan 03, 2013 10:33 pm

I think a DBZ Toku series might work. Tsuburaya Productions could make an awesome DBZ show.
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Re: Dragonball Evolution's effect on the franchise

Post by Goku100xKamehameha » Fri Jan 04, 2013 12:13 am

Hellspawn28 wrote:
Goku100xKamehameha wrote:
If they thought the movie was going to be a blockbuster movie, then why didn't they gave it a blockbuster budget?
You can have a blockbuster even with a small budget. Mortal Kombat had a budget around 30 million and it end up being a huge hit. It was #1 for three weeks, spawn a sequel and a TV series.
Mortal Kombat was released back in 1995 and back then 30 million was quite big, I would bet.

Also, Mortal Kombat arguably had more expore to the general public due to the video game's controversy.

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Post by coola » Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:22 am

When Godzilla 1998 was shown to Toho, they decided to revive series, so fans own something to this abomination, as for Evolution, i don`t think it affected franchise (beside Team Four Star Piccolo dress up as Spike) and got quickly forgotten
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Re: Dragonball Evolution's effect on the franchise

Post by PhoenixEX » Fri Jan 04, 2013 10:27 am

I honestly feel that live-action adaptations or anime (or even cartoons) are extremely hard to pull off. Dragonball Evolution was a complete failure, as was The Last Airbender. It's much easier to adapt American comics simply because its American and the actors more or less resemble their animated counterparts, but as for Japanese manga/anime, it's different. It also doesn't help when you have a white guy playing the role of a japanese guy, or a filipino guy (Sokka?).
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Re: Dragonball Evolution's effect on the franchise

Post by Bussani » Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:39 pm

I don't think the race of the actors had anything to do with Dragon Ball Evolution and The Last Airbender being bad movies, personally. So long as the race in the original story wasn't some sort of plot point, does it really matter if an adaptation is different? What matters is if the actor can pull it off.
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Re: Dragonball Evolution's effect on the franchise

Post by Hellspawn28 » Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:49 pm

I don't think having Goku being played by a caucasian actor is not a big issue. They had Bane playing a caucasian actor and it turn out just fine. DBE was a bad movie in general and it's still a bad movie if you don't view it as a Dragon Ball movie.
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Re: Dragonball Evolution's effect on the franchise

Post by PhoenixEX » Fri Jan 04, 2013 3:51 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:I don't think having Goku being played by a caucasian actor is not a big issue. They had Bane playing a caucasian actor and it turn out just fine. DBE was a bad movie in general and it's still a bad movie if you don't view it as a Dragon Ball movie.
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