Fan Works Explosion

Any general discussion regarding fan-created works of the Dragon Ball franchise, including AMVs, fan-art, fan-fiction, etc.
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Re: Fan Works Explosion

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:23 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:I like Froze myself. I've seen 'Frost' and 'Ice' both used as the basis for their species' name too often to be fond of it as a single character's name.
Froze is already the name of the Freeza Race hero from Heroes.
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Re: Fan Works Explosion

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:28 pm

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Gyt Kaliba wrote:I like Froze myself. I've seen 'Frost' and 'Ice' both used as the basis for their species' name too often to be fond of it as a single character's name.
Froze is already the name of the Freeza Race hero from Heroes.
It is? Like, in official capacity? Last I'd heard they were just called 'Freeza's race', but I haven't really followed Heroes super-closely.
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Re: Fan Works Explosion

Post by Gonstead » Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:34 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:
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Gyt Kaliba wrote:I like Froze myself. I've seen 'Frost' and 'Ice' both used as the basis for their species' name too often to be fond of it as a single character's name.
Froze is already the name of the Freeza Race hero from Heroes.
It is? Like, in official capacity? Last I'd heard they were just called 'Freeza's race', but I haven't really followed Heroes super-closely.
I think he means the character we usually see that represents the Frieza race.

Or wait, is it Heroes or DBO?
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Re: Fan Works Explosion

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Thu Jan 10, 2013 8:45 pm

Ack, yeah, I see that now. My brain completely skipped over 'hero' because of 'Heroes' coming shortly after that. I hate when that happens.

And yeah, it'd be Heroes. As far as I know, Online only has the Human, Namekian, and Majin races playable.
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Re: Fan Works Explosion

Post by CaBrPi » Fri Jan 11, 2013 11:57 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:
TheDevilsCorpse wrote:
Gyt Kaliba wrote:I like Froze myself. I've seen 'Frost' and 'Ice' both used as the basis for their species' name too often to be fond of it as a single character's name.
Froze is already the name of the Freeza Race hero from Heroes.
It is? Like, in official capacity? Last I'd heard they were just called 'Freeza's race', but I haven't really followed Heroes super-closely.
I personally like to call them "Refrigerans" or something like that.

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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Sat Jan 12, 2013 12:22 am

CaBrPi wrote:I personally like to call them "Refrigerans" or something like that.
I've always been fond of the term 'Icers' for their race. I forget where I picked that up though.

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Post by Gonstead » Sat Jan 12, 2013 1:03 am

Bleeeehhhhh, I'm always uncomfortable whenever I see Dragon Ball fanart not in it's native art-style or one that works for it to be enjoyed.

The above pic especially reminds me of common Doujin artwork.
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Post by DarkPrince_92 » Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:23 am

Gonstead wrote:Bleeeehhhhh, I'm always uncomfortable whenever I see Dragon Ball fanart not in it's native art-style or one that works for it to be enjoyed.

The above pic especially reminds me of common Doujin artwork.
That....and how gay they make some characters look... :wtf:
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Re: Fan Works Explosion

Post by Insertclevername » Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:38 am

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Gonstead wrote:Bleeeehhhhh, I'm always uncomfortable whenever I see Dragon Ball fanart not in it's native art-style or one that works for it to be enjoyed.

The above pic especially reminds me of common Doujin artwork.
That....and how gay they make some characters look... :wtf:
Like they never did before? :wink:

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Re: Fan Works Explosion

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:45 am

I'll agree that it looks a little weird (and knowing which character they meant to be which Ouran character, I'm even more perplexed), but I found it interesting myself. It's a crossover artwork I never thought I'd come across anyway.
DarkPrince_92 wrote:That....and how gay they make some characters look... :wtf:
You're not used to the shojo artstyle at all, are you. :P
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Post by Ketchup_Revenge » Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:21 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:I'll agree that it looks a little weird (and knowing which character they meant to be which Ouran character, I'm even more perplexed), but I found it interesting myself. It's a crossover artwork I never thought I'd come across anyway.
DarkPrince_92 wrote:That....and how gay they make some characters look... :wtf:
You're not used to the shojo artstyle at all, are you. :P
Shojo art style is supposed to appeal more to girls... not too fitting for Dragon Ball.

Either Shonen or Shojo, most manga artists can't draw their way out of a wet paper bag. Toriyama's no exception. There's a difference between a bad style and a plainly bad artist. I've never seen the glamor of the Shojo art style, or even manga style in general. Most of it is too simple. I can only think of a handful of manga artists who I believe are halfway decent.
I wipe it off the tile, the light is brighter this time, everything is 3D blasphemy.
My eyes are red and gold, the hair is standing straight up, this is not the way I picture me.
I can't control my shakes, how the hell did I get here? Something about this, so very wrong.
I have to laugh out loud, I wish I didn't like this. Is it a dream or a memory?

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Post by Gonstead » Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:35 pm

Ketchup_Revenge wrote:I can only think of a handful of manga artists who I believe are halfway decent.
Could you possibly name them?
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Post by Ketchup_Revenge » Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:48 pm

Gonstead wrote:
Ketchup_Revenge wrote:I can only think of a handful of manga artists who I believe are halfway decent.
Could you possibly name them?
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I wipe it off the tile, the light is brighter this time, everything is 3D blasphemy.
My eyes are red and gold, the hair is standing straight up, this is not the way I picture me.
I can't control my shakes, how the hell did I get here? Something about this, so very wrong.
I have to laugh out loud, I wish I didn't like this. Is it a dream or a memory?

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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:05 pm

Ketchup_Revenge wrote:Shojo art style is supposed to appeal more to girls... not too fitting for Dragon Ball.
Well yeah, but that's why I personally found it kind of interesting myself. Then again, I'm a fan of some shojo titles, just as I am for shonen.
Either Shonen or Shojo, most manga artists can't draw their way out of a wet paper bag. Toriyama's no exception. There's a difference between a bad style and a plainly bad artist. I've never seen the glamor of the Shojo art style, or even manga style in general. Most of it is too simple. I can only think of a handful of manga artists who I believe are halfway decent.
I don't know if I'd go that far, as I think there are a lot of manga artists who draw amazingly (though I'm a horrible artist myself, so that makes me easier to impress for the most part). At the very least, I find the general 'anime/manga' style more pleasing to my eyes than a lot of the sketchier stuff used in some US comics.

As far as favorite manga artists goes, I think my top three would have to be Masakazu Katsura (I"s, Video Girl Ai, Zetman), Nobuhiro Watsuki (Rurouni Kenshin, Buso Renkin), and Akira Toriyama (Self explanatory isn't it? :P ). Toriyama's art looks great to me for the most part, and it's easier for me to at least faux-imitate than anyone else's. Katsura is AMAZING at how detailed and lifelike he can draw things (though I prefer his 'half-real' work the best; his work kind of has about three levels of realism, photo-realistic, half-real, and comic). Watsuki is almost my favorite for being kind of in-between the two, good with realism but still looking more traditional. And he is better with speed lines than anyone else, ever.
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Post by SilverArmada » Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:11 pm

DarkPrince_92 wrote:
Gonstead wrote:Bleeeehhhhh, I'm always uncomfortable whenever I see Dragon Ball fanart not in it's native art-style or one that works for it to be enjoyed.

The above pic especially reminds me of common Doujin artwork.
That....and how gay they make some characters look... :wtf:
Can we refrain from using the word "gay" as an insult please?

I think the Ouron/DB picture is hysterical. When I was younger I used to hate anything that didn't look like it could be official art. Nowadays I'm more interested in fanart that looks totally different but still executes in a cool/interesting way. So everyone appreciates art differently, and even the same person can like different things at different times. So if you don't like something, that's cool, but no need to be a jerk about it.
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Post by Attitudefan » Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:22 am

SilverArmada wrote:Can we refrain from using the word "gay" as an insult please?.
No. :lol:

I hate that art style too.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:48 am

Attitudefan wrote:
SilverArmada wrote:Can we refrain from using the word "gay" as an insult please?.
No. :lol:
...Seriously? :think:

I was letting it slide before when used, but I can't say I'm fond of the misuse of this word either.
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Post by Rocketman » Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:55 am

I dunno, they look pretty (manga-style) homosexual to me.

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Re: Fan Works Explosion

Post by rereboy » Tue Jan 15, 2013 6:48 am

They actually look gay (or gayer). Its not really an insult (IMO), its what they really look like.

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