DB Wiki inaccuracies

[Fulicer]

I've heard that DB Wiki is inaccurate. This may be related to the English Z dub, since I remember reading the reasons regarding why Goku let Vegeta live after their first fight on their site. The reasons were based on the old dub dialogue. Kai fixed this error, but information like this apparently exists.

Because of cases like the one mentioned, it was a good idea for ScrewAttack to consult Kanzenshuu instead of the wiki. Still, I noticed that for their Vegeta vs Shadow video they said something along the lines of "Freeza made Vegeta into what he is" (if I remember correctly -- I could be wrong), which is another example.

So, I was wondering if anyone can point to some errors from their site that they have encountered over the years? Are other, lesser-known, DB wikis similar?

[Saiga]

Not an inaccuracy so much as a complete lie, but here's a technique they totally made up.

[penguintruth]

It's bad enough they use dub quotes, even the ones that completely misinterpret or even ignore the original script.

[DarkPrince_92]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure the Dragonball Wiki or now Dragonball Encyclopedia is mostly using dub translations as a reference. Or something to that degree.

[Hellspawn28]

I bet someone who runs the DB wiki will say "We use the Funi dub because that's the dub that most people watch". Give me a break . They should stick with the Japanese scripts because that's the original source material.

[B]

DB Wiki isn't even a reliable source for dub information.

[Herms]

DB Wiki isn't even a reliable source for dub information.

That's the big problem: they're not reliable in regards to anything beyond the very obvious. It'd be one thing if they based all their information on Funi dub dialogue; I wouldn't agree with that, but at least they'd be providing a reference source for something. But look at the page Saiga linked to: they just made up a technique based on nothing (apparently Tenshinhan has his own special Kaio-Ken). That has nothing to do with the dub, that's just them being incompetent.

Anyway, I remember a lot of nonsense from over there, but it's been a long time since I checked up on them, so maybe they fixed it. Are they still calling Lucifer a Makaioshin?

[CaBrPi]

Currently, it says he's a devil.

Though the Makaioshin page itself lists him among their numbers, along with Shura and Dabura.

Dabura, I could get behind. But not someone as (relatively) weak as Shura.

[DragonBoxZTheMovies]

They're currently calling the new BOG villains, Bills and Wiss.

[Daimakku]

Can't wait until the Kanzenshuu wiki comes out. It could have the potential to be the wiki for all things Dragonball on the net. And one that doesn't take info from just the english version of the show.

[Herms]

Though the Makaioshin page itself lists him among their numbers, along with Shura and Dabura.

Ah yes, that's the page I was thinking of. Does it still claim the daizenshuu identify him as a Makaioshin? (Sorry, I could look this up myself, but I hate going over there.)

Dabura, I could get behind. But not someone as (relatively) weak as Shura.

Well, strength is one factor I suppose, but there's also the way that none of those characters are ever ever ever called Makaioshin in any official source.

[worldmonsters]

I wonder though, would the Kanzenshuu wiki actually note changes in the dub? Every page could have a "Difference in US dub" section, because of all the stuff that the dub got wrong first time around It would make the wiki EVEN MORE accurate

[Fox666]

I believe the One Piece wikia would serve as a good basis for the Kanzenshuu wiki. They often have a "Translation and Dub Issues" section in the articles.

Well, strength is one factor I suppose, but there's also the way that none of those characters are ever ever ever called Makaioshin in any official source.

The information regarding the Makaioshin is so so limited that you don't even need to say that.

Overall the Dragon Ball wikia serves as an aggregation of fanfictions and theories, rather than a source of information. But even the Wikipedia articles about Dragon Ball are doubtful, which I guess reflects the essence of the average US fan of Dragon Ball.

[Gokuden]

When I browsed the Wikia a month ago, I learned that the vampire in DragonBall is a Makaioshin according to them.
The explanation was because he's thousands of years old and lives atop of something, like Supreme Kaioshin and King Kai.

So, when you live atop of something, you know you're evil.

Also, the wikia didn't bother to make a fake Japanese term for Tien's 'Spirit Burst'.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Overall the Dragon Ball wikia serves as an aggregation of fanfictions and theories, rather than a source of information.

Which is exactly how I quickly realized that I wasn't going to find anything I wanted on that Wiki, the first time I visited it. If I wanted to know what was happening a thousand different fanfics, I'd just go read them...though half of the stuff I saw listed didn't make me one bit interested in reading those particular fics either.

[Hellspawn28]

This is the problem with most of the DBZ fandom on the web. Most of them never read the manga or watch the show in Japanese. That's why I like forums like Kanzenshuu because things are nicer.

[VegettoEX]

But again, as we're trying to get across to people, the fact that DB Wikia / Encyclopedia is based on FUNimation's English dub isn't even the biggest problem it has -- the fact that so much information is pure unadulterated bullshit with no basis in reality is its biggest problem.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Exactly. If it were just a guide based on the dub version, even then it would get more respect than it gets, even from the Kanzenshuu staff I'm sure. At least then, it'd be a handy resource for what was changed, or something. But with so much stuff on there that comes from absolutely NO source...well...

[Fox666]

But again, as we're trying to get across to people, the fact that DB Wikia / Encyclopedia is based on FUNimation's English dub isn't even the biggest problem it has -- the fact that so much information is pure unadulterated bullshit with no basis in reality is its biggest problem.

Although it is not the biggest problem, you wouldn't expect a strict fan to choose the dub over the source material. What I am trying to say is that if someone doesn't mind with the inconsistencies of the dub, he may also accept some inconsistency in the articles.

[VegettoEX]

You can be self-consistent within the universe of FUNimation's English dub. You can have Vegeta shaped by Freeza, you can have Goku be articulate, and you can have a race of aliens called Arcosians. That's fine and dandy. That all makes sense within that one little world. That's accurate to itself.

You can't have all that plus Lucifer being a Makaioshin, Toriyama originally intending to create Majin Piccolo instead of Majin Vegeta, and the name of Freeza's empire being called the World Trade Organization.

That's no longer an accurate source, even to an "inaccurate" (let's just call it "reversioned"...) adaptation. Now it's just complete and utter bullshit. Which is exactly what DB Wikia is. Complete and utter bullshit.