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Re: DB Wiki inaccuracies

Post by Maphisto86 » Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:01 pm

The Kanzenshuu wiki will be quite the undertaking but well worth it if it means countering the Dragonball Encylcopedia site. Sad that it cannot be overhauled but alas it may be for the best to start from scratch. :think:

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Re: DB Wiki inaccuracies

Post by Saiga » Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:15 pm

Another problem they have is inventing names for techniques that don't have them. I didn't realise they were doing this until I read the talk page for "Cosmic Cannon". Amusingly, someone has gone and added a "citation needed" after what I believe is the katakana for the name, which wasn't there last time I viewed that page. Unfortunately, many techniques still have made up names without any explanation, like the "Big Bang Cannon" and it's supposed variants.
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Re: DB Wiki inaccuracies

Post by Herms » Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:15 pm

@Saiga; Seems like they're trying to name every single random ki blast throughout the series. And labeling anything a character ever does that's even slightly unique as a special technique. Kinda amusing, but I wonder what service they think they're providing here?
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Re: DB Wiki inaccuracies

Post by Gaffer Tape » Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:29 pm

Well, you know how obsessed fanbases are: they love minutiae. If you can't slap a name on every single little thing (or assign a battle power to it), why bother knowing about it, right? :wink:
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Re: DB Wiki inaccuracies

Post by Saiga » Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:11 pm

Herms wrote:@Saiga; Seems like they're trying to name every single random ki blast throughout the series. And labeling anything a character ever does that's even slightly unique as a special technique. Kinda amusing, but I wonder what service they think they're providing here?
That's exactly what they're trying to do. I'm not really sure why it matters, either, but it would bother me a whole lot less if they had a note saying that the name was fan-created for the purpose of the wiki.
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Re: DB Wiki inaccuracies

Post by Metalwario64 » Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:16 pm

Herms wrote:@Saiga; Seems like they're trying to name every single random ki blast throughout the series. And labeling anything a character ever does that's even slightly unique as a special technique. Kinda amusing, but I wonder what service they think they're providing here?
Yeah... I find that highly annoying of the general English-speaking fanbase as a whole. I've seen tons of vids and comments with people naming every little thing, with me having no idea what the hell they're talking about. :lol:

I guess they're the same type who follows TV Tropes religiously and has to name every little trope in every day conversation.
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Re: DB Wiki inaccuracies

Post by dbboxkaifan » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:58 am

"Japanese Dub" this kind of annoys me when I see it, but I just ignore it.
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Re: DB Wiki inaccuracies

Post by Gaffer Tape » Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:16 am

dbboxkaifan wrote:"Japanese Dub" this kind of annoys me when I see it, but I just ignore it.
Yeah, that annoys me too. Can't really say it's a symptom exclusive of the DB Wiki, though, and all things considered, it's not that important, but it still annoys me.
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Re: DB Wiki inaccuracies

Post by Herms » Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:56 am

I guess it's not technically inaccurate, but it's at least redundant. You don't hear people talk about "the English dub of The Simpsons".

Actually, what bugs me more is when people refer to "both dubs", as it the Japanese version and Funi dub were the only two versions of the show, instead of there being countless dubs in different languages, not to mention several different English dubs.
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Re: DB Wiki inaccuracies

Post by linkdude20002001 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:54 pm

But was The Simpsons dubbed? I though English-language cartoons recorded the voices BEFORE the animation was done.
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Re: DB Wiki inaccuracies

Post by Godo » Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:05 pm

Gokuden wrote: So, when you live atop of something, you know you're evil.
All hail our evil overlord The devil Kami and his demon underling Popo, and the evil guardian of the tower Karin.

You really see how much they have thought it through.

Hey if they can do it, I will too. And they have to accept it.

I am going to call the ki blast Goku shot at Oozaru Vegeta's face for "Super Last Energy Beam".

Super Last Energy Beam: Is only seen once in the series, and is used by Goku. It is a technique that requires the user to be exhausted and in a desperate situation. It requires the user to be exhausted and have almost no energy left to use and it auto-activates. Incidentally, it isn't used later in the series, because no character is ever exhausted and near his limits after Goku uses it.
It is 2x as strong as a normal ki blast, and the user is immobile after this, not having energy to even pick his nose.
Any Saiyan could use it, Sean Schemmel said that (he heard it from Toriyama). [No citations needed].

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Re: DB Wiki inaccuracies

Post by Saiyan Prince Vegeta » Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:34 pm

Well when I was reading through goku's page on Db wiki it called Goku in SSJ2 near omnipotent. :wtf: That's clearly a complete load of bullcrap!

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Re: DB Wiki inaccuracies

Post by Gokuden » Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:40 pm

Godo wrote:
Gokuden wrote: So, when you live atop of something, you know you're evil.
All hail our evil overlord The devil Kami and his demon underling Popo, and the evil guardian of the tower Karin.

You really see how much they have thought it through.

Hey if they can do it, I will too. And they have to accept it.

I am going to call the ki blast Goku shot at Oozaru Vegeta's face for "Super Last Energy Beam".

Super Last Energy Beam: Is only seen once in the series, and is used by Goku. It is a technique that requires the user to be exhausted and in a desperate situation. It requires the user to be exhausted and have almost no energy left to use and it auto-activates. Incidentally, it isn't used later in the series, because no character is ever exhausted and near his limits after Goku uses it.
It is 2x as strong as a normal ki blast, and the user is immobile after this, not having energy to even pick his nose.
Any Saiyan could use it, Sean Schemmel said that (he heard it from Toriyama). [No citations needed].

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Re: DB Wiki inaccuracies

Post by Herms » Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:54 pm

No no no, everyone knows that the ki blast Goku shoots at Oozaru Vegeta's face is called "The Weasel's Last Fart".

Everything else is perfect.
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Re: DB Wiki inaccuracies

Post by Fulicer » Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:39 pm

There seems to be more inaccuracies than I realized. I did notice the spurious amount of attack names, as well as facts that were not cited at all. One is example is why Cooler is not named Coola probably because he is the "cooler brother" (this was fixed, apparently). I guess I should be on guard for entries that are totally false, like the one regarding Tenshinhan.

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Re: DB Wiki inaccuracies

Post by Bussani » Tue Jan 15, 2013 1:14 am

Herms wrote:I guess it's not technically inaccurate, but it's at least redundant. You don't hear people talk about "the English dub of The Simpsons".
Like linkdude alluded to, the people who say "Japanese dub" wouldn't consider animation where the voices are recorded first a dub. But yeah, it seems unnecessary.
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