The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Fox666 » Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:47 pm

Judging from a single scene, it doesn't looks like Bojack is stronger than Cell.

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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:53 pm

I'm sure Gohan could have done this to Cell as well, if he wanted to. Gohan wanted to kill Bojack, while in Cell's case, he wanted to torture and humiliate him.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZAOTA482 » Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:56 pm

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Insertclevername wrote:How about this for a solution, If you want to have a battle with GT characters, add the tagline: No GT logic or only Manga logic. Then people can be a little more creative with their posts and theories. :)
I don't believe that the people here are retarded to need special tag-lines for having a serious discussion.
Yep, like how children's card games are serious business.
Godstead wrote:Perfect Cell (No Super Perfect) vs Bojack.
Perfect Cell, because he has more at his disposal and he's smarter.
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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Fox666 » Sun Jan 13, 2013 3:57 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:I'm sure Gohan could have done this to Cell as well, if he wanted to. Gohan wanted to kill Bojack, while in Cell's case, he wanted to torture and humiliate him.
But Gohan is aware that Cell could survive that sort of damage, and didn't minded cracking his head of vaporizing some of limbs with that Kamehameha.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:05 pm

DBZAOTA482 wrote:Yep, like how children's card games are serious business.
Eh?
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

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DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
DBZAOTA482 wrote:Yep, like how children's card games are serious business.
Eh?
Fox666 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:I'm sure Gohan could have done this to Cell as well, if he wanted to. Gohan wanted to kill Bojack, while in Cell's case, he wanted to torture and humiliate him.
But Gohan is aware that Cell could survive that sort of damage, and didn't minded cracking his head of vaporizing some of limbs with that Kamehameha.
Then... I guess you are right.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Jan 13, 2013 10:38 pm

Fox666 wrote:Judging from a single scene, it doesn't looks like Bojack is stronger than Cell.

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This is also a weaker Gohan, he lacked anger, so yeah I suppose he is weaker than Cell.
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Post by Kaboom » Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:20 pm

Cell also has an exoskeleton. Bojack doesn't.
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Post by Rocketman » Sun Jan 13, 2013 11:38 pm

I think Cell's regeneration would tip the balance.
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Post by PiccoloFan7289 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:36 pm

Good Boo vs. Super Perfect Cell, Dabura, SSJ2 Majin Vegeta, SSJ2 Gohan, and SSJ2 Goku. I think it's too much for Good Boo to handle. Good Boo doesn't get stomped, but he doesn't win either.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:49 pm

Well Good Buu is a good deal weaker than Majin Buu since he is the lesser HALF of the Majin Buu. SPC should win alone.
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Post by Rocketman » Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:21 pm

SS2 Vegeta could probably win. Vegeta and Gohan or Goku together definitely could.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:56 pm

PiccoloFan7289 wrote:Good Boo vs. Super Perfect Cell, Dabura, SSJ2 Majin Vegeta, SSJ2 Gohan, and SSJ2 Goku. I think it's too much for Good Boo to handle. Good Boo doesn't get stomped, but he doesn't win either.
Boo gets easily eradicated.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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Re: The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

Post by Kaboom » Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:17 pm

Considering Boo presumably lost over HALF of his power in his split, I figure either SSj2 Goku or Vegeta alone could take him on now. Adding other SSj2-tier characters (and Dabra) into the mix to gang up on him just makes it unfair.
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Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:26 pm

Good Boo can't do anything here, except get pummeled.
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Post by Saiga » Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:27 pm

PiccoloFan7289 wrote:Good Boo vs. Super Perfect Cell, Dabura, SSJ2 Majin Vegeta, SSJ2 Gohan, and SSJ2 Goku.
Fighting all of them, he'd be absolutely stomped.

One-on-one, he'd stomp Cell, Dabra and Gohan, then lose to Vegeta or Goku.
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Post by Fox666 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 9:19 pm

Majin Boo was doing better than Vegeta against Pure Boo, so I will give this to Mr. Boo.

I really wouldn't take in account him having less than half of Innocent Boo power, or at least not that it could be measured.
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Post by PiccoloFan7289 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:32 pm

Alright let's move up to the next level then. Super Boo (no absorptions) vs. Super Perfect Cell, Dabura, SSJ2 Majin Vegeta, SSJ2 Gohan, and SSJ2 Goku. I still think the team of Cell, Dabura, Vegeta, Gohan, and Goku wins. They all get beat up pretty badly though and it isn't an easy fight.
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Post by Super Saiyan Turlast x4 » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:36 pm

Super Boo would erase all of them with utter ease. He's too powerful for them.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Mon Jan 14, 2013 10:40 pm

PiccoloFan7289 wrote:Alright let's move up to the next level then. Super Boo (no absorptions) vs. Super Perfect Cell, Dabura, SSJ2 Majin Vegeta, SSJ2 Gohan, and SSJ2 Goku. I still think the team of Cell, Dabura, Vegeta, Gohan, and Goku wins. They all get beat up pretty badly though and it isn't an easy fight.
Well if they were willing to work together Cell could go for a Taiyoken and Dabura could spit on him. The end. Then there is the option of Goku and Vegeta doing fusion. However in terms of raw power, Super Buu wins.
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