Dragon Ball things you never want to hear again

[Gyt Kaliba]

The hype FUNimation gave GT also doesn't help its perceptions in America.

Well, to be fair, they wanted it to sell. I can't really fault them for trying to make it seem like something 'bigger' than DBZ, to try and hook people in. They can't be like 'Hey guys, we've got this sequel to DBZ now that...well, honestly, it kinda sucks. Like, a lot. But you still want it? ...Right?'.

[Sinestro]

There are some bad scores from Faulconer, but really, none of it? >.>

SSj 3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vfkhDiSijs

Ultimate Gohan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aIoSBlK1BA

Paikuhan
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GyFtvgV43lQ

Just to name a few...

That's his gripe. This is the place for it.

As for me, I didn't know what I was missing with the original score. To me, it leaves Brucie in the dust.

But I still have a soft spot for Super Buu, King Kold, and Gohan's theme. And that SSJ3 one.

[jjgp1112]

Anything pertaining to what Toriyama originally intended.

[Gonstead]

Speaking of the Faulconer score, it's a minor gripe but I really wish the fandom was slightly more intelligent as to who really wrote the songs for specific scenes and characters and not just simply labeling it all to Bruce Faulconer himself. Specifically speaking, Pikkon's theme was done by Scott Morgan AKA cRookie_Monster.

Again, minor complaint but I felt like mentioning it.

[Hellspawn28]

I do like some of Faulconer's music, but I do find most of it overrated. To me Dragon Ball is better in Japanese because the show feels more natural. I'm a type of person who likes to watch shows and movies how they are originally made. If I was going to watch a movie like Star Wars then I will stick with the original versions because those are the versions that exist first.

[jjgp1112]

Also, let's try to keep this from being people complaining about opinions.

[Majin Steve]

Chris Sabat doing 'Over 9000'

Okay, let me re-phrase then. I'm not tired of hearing about it really, but I would be happy if I never again heard something along the lines of 'Oh, you watch the dub? And here I thought you were a real Dragon Ball fan.' If someone watches Dragon Ball and enjoys it, they're a fan. Period. This is as inane to me as saying someone's not a Star Wars fan if they enjoyed the prequel trilogy, or someone's not a TMNT fan if they don't enjoy the original comics, and so on and so forth.

That rampant snobbery has never sat right with me in anime circles. A dub is just a version for your language. Which you speak, so why the hell shouldn't you watch? I honestly don't care about BGM, and there are some GREAT dubs out there, like Desert Punk.

[Rocketman]

Motherfucking power levels. I'd like a week, just one goddamn week where anybody who posts a single fucking power level gets banned forever. Yes, including me, including Kaboom, including VegettoEX! I don't care!

Talk about something else, for the love of god.

[Majin Steve]

Fans complaining about GT. 'Nuff said.

This annoys me so much. The ending was a hundred times better than Z's and it wasn't even definitive.

[Saiga]

*Appreciation for GT's ending, or in general.

[AgitoZ]

Well, to be fair, they wanted it to sell. I can't really fault them for trying to make it seem like something 'bigger' than DBZ, to try and hook people in. They can't be like 'Hey guys, we've got this sequel to DBZ now that...well, honestly, it kinda sucks. Like, a lot. But you still want it? ...Right?'.

Yeah, I get that. However, my point was that the hype took people's general disappointment in GT to total hatred.

This annoys me so much. The ending was a hundred times better than Z's and it wasn't even definitive.

It's about the journey, not the destination. And let me tell you, that journey is a snore.

Although I'll agree that I like the ending better than Z's too. It just feels more like an ending, which I get that Toriyama was not trying to do that with the Oob stuff, but still. I think the montage helps too.

[Hellspawn28]

Fans complaining about GT. 'Nuff said.

This annoys me so much.

Well GT is a bad show critically speaking. Just because you like something that does not mean it's good. I like Star Wars Episode I and I can see admit that it's a bad film. GT ending was good, I will give you that.

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

Now I feel like I want to listen to GT's final ending song. *GT fan mode on*

[Ringworm128]

Dub bashing, or at least over exaggerated dub bashing.

[Majin Steve]

GT was fun, I loved Trunks, Pan and Goku going around collecting the Black Star Dragon Balls. I loved the Piccolo stuff, I loved seeing Vegeta confront Nappa, now as a hero. I loved the Gill betraying the group stuff. The Shadow Dragon saga was very interesting, unique and logical and it brought some good things like SS4 and Gogeta and all that.

I didn't care much for Baby and especially Baby Vegeta, too reminiscent of Majin. I dunno about you but I was the intended demographic when watching and it felt just like the perfect mixture of Dragon Ball and DBZ. Yeah it's not canon, so what? It's there if you want to watch it.

Thematically, GT is very good. It brings a lot of chapters to an end. Gohan & Piccolo's relationship, overuse of Dragon Balls, and it parallels early DB hunting all the way from 300+ eps preiviously which became lost in all the DBZ fighting, yet combines it with Z's galatic setting.

GT being bad isn't definitive, it comes from deeply enrooted and typical Anime Fan Snobbery, and thus there are a lot of people shooed off from even giving it a chance or who go into it with a destructive mindset.

Now I feel like I want to listen to GT's final ending song.

It's a very sweet end to 11 years of anime.

[Sinestro]

Think I could go without hearing the word "multiplier" as well.

I heard that word enough back in high school.

[Hellspawn28]

GT does have problems with it other then plot holes. Most of the humor is not very funny and they made every character useless other then Goku. Ubb and Vegeta did play a minor roles, but that's about it. I also remember the show did had some bad placing issues in the Black Star Dragon Ball arc.

Thematically, GT is very good. GT being bad isn't definitive, it comes from deeply enrooted and typical Anime Fan Snobbery, and thus there are a lot of people shooed off from even giving it a chance or who go into it with a destructive mindset.

That sounds like your opinion. I remember reading that GT got bad reviews when it came out which is why it suffer from low ratings and poor merchandise sales. As I mention before, liking something does not mean it's good generally speaking. I enjoy the hell out Godzilla vs Megalon and Troll 2 but I know they're both bad movies.

[Sinestro]

"Great Ape".

Maybe because it reminds me too much of "Grape Ape".



(And of course, the original Japanese term is so much cooler)

[Hellspawn28]

Great Monkey would have made more sense then Great Ape. I always hated how fans still use HFIL instead of Hell. Makes wish they call it something else instead. I hear that Hell is referred to as Hades in the Blue Water dub which sounds less stupid then Home For Infinite Losers.

[Saiga]

I went into GT with nothing to expect and I hated it so it's not tainted by having the wrong mindset from the beginning.