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[DNA]

*sigh* So my Infinite World and Sparking METEOR discs are gone for some reason, so we can scratch those out. I still got Budokai 3. I'm waiting for the remote for the TV because it's too loud and it doesn't have volume control. After that I'll start the Budokai 3 analysis. I might need some help because it does have multiple branching paths... I might get a bit lost :s

[DNA]

Update: Sparking! METEOR

Found my disc, put the sound to minimum and here we go!

Dream Match: Goku Vs. Arale
Goku is gathering the Dragon Balls when he meets Arale again.
He is bewildered by Arale's hasty greeting and rambunctious behavior.

So Goku and Arale fight and stuff, from what I gather the english subtitles are completely different from what they say in Japanese so there's no point trying to transcribe. It's nothing but a simple dream match.

Affectionate Android
It's 16, the android created to eliminate Goku.
16 returns to the past when Goku was a boy to confront and eliminate him.
This time Goku has help from an android friend.

16 was sent back in time to eliminate Goku but once there 8 confronts him. Even though 16 is much more powerful, 8 goes all out to protect his friend. Goku tries to stand in the way but is no match so 8 returns to the battle. He comments that 16 is not a bad guy, and 16 says he's only doing what he was created to do. 16 also says that somehow he cannot go full power against him. 8 says he hates fighting but must protect his friend. 16 says that Dr. Gero dedicated his life creating androids to kill Goku and through trial and error he found that an android with Goku's heart would form the ultimate android.
At the end, even though 16 tried to kill Goku, Goku tells 8 to spare him because his not a bad guy and it would be a shame since he was so strong, Goku need to train in order to beat him fair and square.
16 finds himself confused by these events and thinks that he might have a heart and feelings. He vows to meet Goku again.
Fun and possibly the best what-if in the game. The battle is really hard though.

Galaxy Battle
The Saiyans working for Freeza discover a secret.
Freeza is afraind of them, and he plans to eliminate the Saiyans.
Angry at Freeza's betrayal, the Saiyans amass their troop - the start of an all-out war with Freeza's army.

The Saiyans fight Freeza's army and then fight Freeza, somehow we get adult Vegeta in there.
It's mostly "what if the Saiyans were a little bit more organized", they would still get totally killed though.

From what I gather this fight can go differently depending on who kills who, this is what happened to me this time:
First Vegeta fights Kyui, kills Kyui, then Dodoria comes, Dodoria dies, Zarbon comes, Selipa wants to fight, is killed by him, Bardock wants revenge, Zarbon transforms, is killed, Freeza appears, King Vegeta wants to fight, is killed, Vegeta comes back and is also killed, Bardock is the final Saiyan standing in the way. He died because I suck.
Ginew was mentioned twice so I guess that depending on how you do and how long you last he would probably appear as well. I think you can also get Nappa, from what I remember of a playthrough many years ago.

Unexpected Help
Goku thought he had defeated Freeza, but it was not the case.
Now Freeza comes to Earth for revenge.
Impantiently waiting for Goku, Freeza terrorized the people of Earth,
when all of a sudden an unexpected hero blocked the way.

Akkuman disposes of the soldiers and kills Freeza and then Cold with the Akkumaitosen.
As interesting has this sounds, it's so poorly scripted that it bores me to tears.
No matter how many times I throw the beam, it only really works when the game tells me to click a button for a scripted event that will one shot kill them. Otherwise it just does a big amount of damage.
Had the potential to be a great what-if, ruined by boring dialogue and scripted events.

And now for everything else:
I'm not going to list recolours since there's already a topic for that.
For different outfits you can get Goku in Super Saiyan 2 and 3 in his blue dougi from the Uub Arc and in his Saiyan Armour from the Cell Arc. It's damned sweet to see Super Saiyan 3 in these outfits.
For Gohan: Boyhood you can go Super Saiyan 2 in said Saiyan Armour as well, pretty cool.
Now instead of listing Ozarus I'll just say that Ozaru can get all these outfits:
Vegeta in Namek Arc armour, Freeza Arc armour and the wrong coloured armour; King Vegeta with a goatee; Raditz with long hair, Nappa with receding hair lines, both armoured and pants only (somehow manages to look like the wrongest thing ever); Tullece; Selipa and Bardock.
Gohan: Future can use the Makankosappo.

That's all for this game from what I could find, unless I missed something. Sorry for the low quality of the pics.

[dbboxkaifan]

Shitty repetitive music

Are you really talking about Sparking Meteor or Budokai Tenkaichi 3 music?

I'd agree if this is about BT3's OST, but SM's OST? I just find it hard to believe.

[DNA]

Shitty repetitive music

Are you really talking about Sparking Meteor or Budokai Tenkaichi 3 music?

I'd agree if this is about BT3's OST, but SM's OST? I just find it hard to believe.

Did... Did you just get that quote from a unrelated post concerning a completely different game? Even risking a warning I can't help but ask, are you retarded or something?

Edit: Oh yeah, you got it from the first post, the one were I clearly talk about Mistery of Shenlong. So you read a random line and ignored the entire post and then came here to disagree with something you took out of context.

[Makaioshin]

There are some other what-ifs in Sparking! METEOR. For instance, if you defeat Piccolo Daimao without activating the last scripted event then Tambourine will appear to defeat Goku but ChiChi steps in his place. There are some other ones like that but I can't remember them all.

[dbboxkaifan]

To be honest, I just read bits and pieces because I couldn't be bothered to read all of it (tl;dr).

So, that was what caught my attention.

Oh yeah, nice insult there, champ.

[DNA]

There are some other what-ifs in Sparking! METEOR. For instance, if you defeat Piccolo Daimao without activating the last scripted event then Tambourine will appear to defeat Goku but ChiChi steps in his place. There are some other ones like that but I can't remember them all.

Ugh... Yeah I guess you're right, there are a bunch of those little things but there are many and I don't even know what triggers what. Should I really try and list them all? I doubt they are that much different or interesting.

To be honest, I just read bits and pieces because I couldn't be bothered to read all of it (tl;dr).

So, that was what caught my attention.

Oh yeah, nice insult there, champ. :lol:

So you saw an analysis topic, decided to come in and not read the analysis to the point where you didn't even know what was being analysed, then you picked something completely out of context and topped it up by blurting out an idiotic comment.

Oh yeah, nice work there, champ.

[Makaioshin]

Ugh... Yeah I guess you're right, there are a bunch of those little things but there are many and I don't even know what triggers what. Should I really try and list them all? I doubt they are that much different or interesting.

They are at the very least more interesting than Arale vs Goku but now that I looked them up I guess they aren't as notable as I remembered them.

[DNA]

Ugh... Yeah I guess you're right, there are a bunch of those little things but there are many and I don't even know what triggers what. Should I really try and list them all? I doubt they are that much different or interesting.

They are at the very least more interesting than Arale vs Goku but now that I looked them up I guess they aren't as notable as I remembered them.

Is there some sort of list on what triggers what? I don't see people taking that much of an interest. That would help me, and also one for Budokai 3 since the alternate paths come and go with no real prompt and there's also tons of little conversations that you must find that build up the alternate story.
The result is something like this: http://yamuchadensetsu.com/?p=873 - this entry is one of the things that motivated me to do this project.

[Darknat]

Well there are some interesting ones:

The piccolo one was already mentioned.

You can get Nail to figth the Ginew force if you take too long to defeat Reekum.

Against Majin Vegeta if you defeat him without the event you fight Dabura and Babidi.

Against Broly if you take too much time fighting him with Goku then Kame Senin fights him.

I think you can get Vegeta to fight 3rd form Freeza but don't remember what triggers that.

And Pan can fight one of the forms of Baby if you take too much time with Goku (I don't remember which form was though...).

[DNA]

Hey guys, just wanted to give you a little heads up, I've been working on Super Dragon Ball Z so I'll have an update for that soon enough. I would say I'm about two thirds done.

[DNA]

Hi guys, Super Dragon Ball Z is taking longer than I expected so I'm gonna showcase Budokai series outfits instead. I only have access to Budokai 3 for now (it seems my Infinite World is back in Portugal), and since I can only take shitty photos, I'll just cheat and link to character and costumes videos on Youtube and talk about the outfits.

Budokai
Right, this is were all the cool outfits started, I've never seen these outfits up until yesterday. It's cool to have Super Saiyans in civilian clothing, I especially like Gohan's. So, Raditz has this simpler looking armour in blue, it looks really odd on him. Nappa has Vegeta's armour with the jumpsuit and gloves, looks pretty cool actually. Dodoria has an armour that resembles Vegeta's late Namek arc armour, but with no sleeves. Satan has got red pants on, and nothing else... I... This... I don't know. Ginew has got Goku's dougi on like that vision Goku had, this is probably one of the best outfits in the entire series. I like that he has the kanji for Milk instead of Go, or so I'm told. But the champion is Zarbon, his outfit is really cool, it reminds me of Vega from Street Fighter.
There are also some what if's but I haven't played the game myself to be able to analyse them.

Budokai 2
Nothing new in terms of outfits but there is a new cool stage, I'm not sure what it is supposed to represent but it does remind me of the Konpei Region back in Daimao Fukkatsu. In the video you can also see Majin Freeza, I haven't watched the video until the end so I'm not sure if you'll be able to see Majin Cell as well. I won't talk much more about it because I would need to play the game or watch all the footage to understand how the alternate story goes. Here's a pic with both Majins.

Right, the bulk of the new things are a playable Gotan who has a completely different skin which makes me want to scratch my eyes out, Yamhan, the fusion of Tenshinhan and Yamcha and a bunch of Buu's absorptions.
This video showcases nearly everything and is the only one I could find in good quality. Gotan's ultimate is a more powerful purple/red Genkidama, Kami knows why. This also shows Yamhan's Rogahaykyuken although I feel that is a really poor combo, it could have been better and lenghtier, his other attack is the Dodonhameha. Also, Cell can perform the Genkidama as well, his is green and apparently made of stupid energy.
And this video shows Buu's absorptions in depth, in here you can better see how his personality changes along with the physical changes and what attacks he gains.
The main new ones are Yamcha & Tenshinhan, Vegeta, Freeza and Cell.
Unless I missed something, that's it for Budokai 2, someone who actually played the game extensively might be able to point out something I missed, I only watched videos and tried it a little bit.

Budokai 3
Nothing new in terms of outfits and shit, the only thing to point out is that Vegeta can go Super Saiyan in the Saiyan Armour, Namek Armour and Freeza Armour. Well, there is that one thing in that both Goku and Vegeta from Z can go Super Saiyan 4, complete with changing pants and shoes, it's fun, but it would be better if they kept at least some of the clothing they originally had. There are alternate stories but I will leave that for a later date.

Infinite World
Nothing too out of the ordinary, you get Goku with an Halo in his blue dougi. Anyway, there's possibly some what if's, I played this game quite a bit, beat it and unlocked the... well, rest of the game apparently. I don't remember anything out of the ordinary from my first play.


Final Notes
Although in the Budokai series you can go Super Saiyan in all the main outfits for Vegeta, in the Sparking series (extending to Raging Blast), you can go Super Saiyan 3 in all of Goku's outfits. Even though Heroes was showcasing Goku Super Saiyan 3 in Yadrat Clothing, Raging Blast 2 already did that. So to recap, Goku can go Super Saiyan 3 in the Orange Dougi, Kame Dougi, Kaio Dougi, Go Dougi, the Kame Dougi with No Heavy Clothes, the Battle Damaged Dougi from the Namek Arc and the Yadrat Armour in Raging Blast 2; plus, like I showcased before, Saiyan Style Armour and Blue Dougi. And since you've got battle damaged versions for most of those, plus you can add an Halo to any of Goku's outfits, you're set for whatever outfit you want to showcase plus you can mix and match Halos with Outfits.

I must say this is turning a bit tiring and cumbersome, I've done most of the interesting stuff already, I feel I'm running out of good material and we will have to go into the shitty ones instead like Shin Budokai 2's cluster-fuck of a storyline. That makes me a sad panda.

[Sinestro]

You're bringing back memories.

I want to pop in Budokai 3 again.

[DNA]

You're bringing back memories.

I want to pop in Budokai 3 again.

Wanna help me pinpoint all the deviate stories? Would be much appreciated, I've been asking for that since day one and had no takers so far. I just want to make sure I don't miss any story bits like finding random characters to talk to.

[Sinestro]

You're bringing back memories.

I want to pop in Budokai 3 again.

Wanna help me pinpoint all the deviate stories? Would be much appreciated, I've been asking for that since day one and had no takers so far. I just want to make sure I don't miss any story bits like finding random characters to talk to.

Sure. Just tell me what you need from me and I can start this on it this weekend.

[DNA]

You're bringing back memories.

I want to pop in Budokai 3 again.

Wanna help me pinpoint all the deviate stories? Would be much appreciated, I've been asking for that since day one and had no takers so far. I just want to make sure I don't miss any story bits like finding random characters to talk to.

Sure. Just tell me what you need from me and I can start this on it this weekend.

Well, whatever you can tell me about the alternate paths I have to take, or if you simply want to do it yourself and post the results here that would be really cool.

[Sinestro]

Well, whatever you can tell me about the alternate paths I have to take, or if you simply want to do it yourself and post the results here that would be really cool.

Consider it done!

And it'll be a nice treat. I haven't played in a few years.

[Saiga]

I'm currently playing through as well, so I might be able to help.

[Insertclevername]

What the heck, I'll pop in Budokai 3 during the weekend and play some what if story modes if you want. Just tell me which ones your interested in and I'll give the best write up I can.

[DNA]

Ah, I feel like Goku asking for energy for the Genkidama. Well, I dunno, we could try and do one each, who'll take Goku? And I guess Yamcha is already done in that blog. Just select which ones you want, share it here and I'll do one of the other ones :D