One Hour Toriko/One Piece/DBZ crossover to Air April 7

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Re: One Hour DBZ/Toriko/One Piece crossover to Air April 7

Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:05 pm

JulieYBM wrote:This "hate Toriko because it replaced Dragon Ball Kai" thing has never made any sense. Dragon Ball Kai was terrible and damaging the franchise. Concluding it with episode #97 was a mercy kill we should all be thankful for. Toriko, on the other hand, while a terrible series, isn't dragging a franchise down domestically. Dragon Ball Kai can't exactly say the same.
How was Kai damaging the franchise?
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Re: One Hour DBZ/Toriko/One Piece crossover to Air April 7

Post by Sinestro » Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:09 pm

I've never seen any One Piece, so this news doesn't excite me as much as you guys. Still, this is cool news.

I take it I should watch a bit of OP just so I know what the heck the craze is all about?

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Post by Bussani » Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:13 pm

Sinestro wrote:I've never seen any One Piece, so this news doesn't excite me as much as you guys. Still, this is cool news.

I take it I should watch a bit of OP just so I know what the heck the craze is all about?
Couldn't hurt. Or you could check out some of the manga, since it would be quicker that way. If you watch/read at least up to the end of the Arlong arc, you'll know for sure if you like it or not.
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Post by ThunderPX » Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:23 pm

Shit, I don't wanna have to watch anything involving Toriko.
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Re: One Hour DBZ/Toriko/One Piece crossover to Air April 7

Post by AgitoZ » Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:37 pm

Gotta love all the irrational Toriko hate. :lol:

The crossover is good for just about everyone involved. I doubt the writers will come up with anything special but I'll still watch this novel event. Seeing all the characters together should be enough to please me.
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Re: One Hour DBZ/Toriko/One Piece crossover to Air April 7

Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:47 pm

JulieYBM wrote:This "hate Toriko because it replaced Dragon Ball Kai" thing has never made any sense. Dragon Ball Kai was terrible and damaging the franchise. Concluding it with episode #97 was a mercy kill we should all be thankful for. Toriko, on the other hand, while a terrible series, isn't dragging a franchise down domestically. Dragon Ball Kai can't exactly say the same.

Dragon Ball is being included in this special to promote the new movie. Toriko is once again saving Son Gokuu and friends' bacon from getting burned. I think we ought to be thankful for that much.
Are you kidding me? Dragon Ball Kai didn't damage the franchise. The TV ratings in Japan for Kai had been constantly in top 5, so it was quite popular, just not as popular as it was back then when DBZ was originally broadcasted. Also not to mention merchadises have been selling well ever since Kai first debuted. So how exactly did Toriko save the Dragon Ball franchise from an embarassment, aside from the Yamamoto scandal?
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Re: One Hour DBZ/Toriko/One Piece crossover to Air April 7

Post by Sinestro » Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:50 pm

Bussani wrote:
Sinestro wrote:I've never seen any One Piece, so this news doesn't excite me as much as you guys. Still, this is cool news.

I take it I should watch a bit of OP just so I know what the heck the craze is all about?
Couldn't hurt. Or you could check out some of the manga, since it would be quicker that way. If you watch/read at least up to the end of the Arlong arc, you'll know for sure if you like it or not.
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Post by Hellspawn28 » Tue Feb 05, 2013 7:55 pm

I'm a sucker for crossovers. I will get it a watch.
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Post by DragonBoxZTheMovies » Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:00 pm

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JulieYBM wrote:This "hate Toriko because it replaced Dragon Ball Kai" thing has never made any sense. Dragon Ball Kai was terrible and damaging the franchise. Concluding it with episode #97 was a mercy kill we should all be thankful for. Toriko, on the other hand, while a terrible series, isn't dragging a franchise down domestically. Dragon Ball Kai can't exactly say the same.

Dragon Ball is being included in this special to promote the new movie. Toriko is once again saving Son Gokuu and friends' bacon from getting burned. I think we ought to be thankful for that much.
Are you kidding me? Dragon Ball Kai didn't damage the franchise. The TV ratings in Japan for Kai had been constantly in top 5, so it was quite popular, just not as popular as it was back then when DBZ was originally broadcasted. Also not to mention merchadises have been selling well ever since Kai first debuted. So how exactly did Toriko save the Dragon Ball franchise from an embarassment, aside from the Yamamoto scandal?
I was under the impression that the lack of merchandise sales is what killed Kai in Japan. No matter how good they are, ratings don't pay the bills. DVD sales were awful from what I've heard.

Have a listen to the "What the hell happened to Dragon Ball Kai" episode. It might be somewhat irrelevant at this point, but it's still a fascinating ride.

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Post by Daimakku » Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:08 pm

Super Saiyan Prime wrote:Toriko's pulling in rather poor numbers all around. The ratings are way down from Kai, and are currently closer to the One Piece reruns than the premieres in viewership. The manga isn't selling like a top JUMP property either. They'll probably hope this gets Dragon Ball fans, and One Piece fans watching Toriko as well as alerting everyone to Battle of Gods.
And it's working. I just checked out this Toriko show on youtube to see what it's all about.

It looks.. okay I suppose. Doesn't seem like its better than Dragonball though.

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Re: One Hour DBZ/Toriko/One Piece crossover to Air April 7

Post by JulieYBM » Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:14 pm

DragonBalllKaiHD wrote:
JulieYBM wrote:This "hate Toriko because it replaced Dragon Ball Kai" thing has never made any sense. Dragon Ball Kai was terrible and damaging the franchise. Concluding it with episode #97 was a mercy kill we should all be thankful for. Toriko, on the other hand, while a terrible series, isn't dragging a franchise down domestically. Dragon Ball Kai can't exactly say the same.

Dragon Ball is being included in this special to promote the new movie. Toriko is once again saving Son Gokuu and friends' bacon from getting burned. I think we ought to be thankful for that much.
Are you kidding me? Dragon Ball Kai didn't damage the franchise. The TV ratings in Japan for Kai had been constantly in top 5, so it was quite popular, just not as popular as it was back then when DBZ was originally broadcasted. Also not to mention merchadises have been selling well ever since Kai first debuted. So how exactly did Toriko save the Dragon Ball franchise from an embarassment, aside from the Yamamoto scandal?
Yeah, it did. Dragon Ball Kai (and the cross medium marketing) tossed twelve years of build up out the window. Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods is a Hail Mary if I've ever seen one; a desperate attempt to show audiences "Okay, yeah, sorry, we screwed up" without actually exhausting their already stretched resources.
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Post by Chuquita » Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:46 pm

And I accept BOG for being that Hail Mary Pass, because almost-everything that I've seen so far involving the movie itself has been to my liking; what brought it into being doesn't really matter much to me, I'm just happy it's here.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:51 pm

JulieYBM wrote:Yeah, it did. Dragon Ball Kai (and the cross medium marketing) tossed twelve years of build up out the window. Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods is a Hail Mary if I've ever seen one; a desperate attempt to show audiences "Okay, yeah, sorry, we screwed up" without actually exhausting their already stretched resources.
So looking at it that way, Battle of Gods is kind of what the Dragon Boxes were for FUNi, something better than their previous product that they didn't have to do by any means, and is largely an apology to the fans?
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Post by JulieYBM » Tue Feb 05, 2013 8:54 pm

The ANN write up has a few details on the special. It looks like they're going to cram a lot into the special (or 'might', at least). Come on, Tate Naoki, Shida Naotoshi, and Oonishi Ryou for key animation!
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JulieYBM wrote:Yeah, it did. Dragon Ball Kai (and the cross medium marketing) tossed twelve years of build up out the window. Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods is a Hail Mary if I've ever seen one; a desperate attempt to show audiences "Okay, yeah, sorry, we screwed up" without actually exhausting their already stretched resources.
So looking at it that way, Battle of Gods is kind of what the Dragon Boxes were for FUNi, something better than their previous product that they didn't have to do by any means, and is largely an apology to the fans?
For the most part, I'd say so. Toei tried to cheapskate with their biggest property and wound up falling on their asses. I'm honestly surprised we're getting a new movie before the next anniversary (2014 for Dragon Ball Z and the comic and 2016 for the first TV series, for example).
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:05 pm

Yeah, ever since I heard that 2014 was another big anniversary of the manga, I've been kind of shocked that all of the new material is happening now - first the new movie and this, then the colored manga. Not that I mind them jumping the gun at all though.
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Post by hulkty » Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:10 pm

I'm surprised at how little Americans don't know of Toriko. It's a great anime and show. Funny and action packed.

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Post by JulieYBM » Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:11 pm

hulkty wrote:I'm surprised at how little Americans don't know of Toriko. It's a great anime and show. Funny and action packed.
Not everyone who posts here is a fan of Japanese comics and cartoons in general, so it's not too surprising.
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Post by Wobbuffet » Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:25 pm

Why do you guys hate Toriko so much? I don't read it, but some friends of mine do and they love it.
You know, it's just a cool adventure battle shonen manga. Just like One Piece and Dragon Ball.
You guys should read more manga.
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Re: One Hour DBZ/Toriko/One Piece crossover to Air April 7

Post by Chuquita » Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:34 pm

I don't hate it, I just don't like the art style. It's like...a pseudo-80's art-style, but not in a pleasant way imo.
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Post by CashmanX » Tue Feb 05, 2013 9:38 pm

Chuquita wrote:I don't hate it, I just don't like the art style. It's like...a pseudo-80's art-style, but not in a pleasant way imo.
Almost like Hokuto no Ken took whatever One Piece was smoking.
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