The All-Purpose "Versus" Thread

[Legendary Saiya-Jin]

Gohan wouldn't want to fight him.

[Fox666]

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[TheMightyOzaru]

does not compare to 981, and 2,800 when pissed off.

Actually he was "about 1,500", or at least he was in Namek. Since that didn't changed for Kuririn, it probably also apply to Gohan.

Nappa measured Gohan's starting level at 981. Obviously it's not his full power but it doesn't change the fact that 981 far surpasses 260.

[Mystic Gohan]

Going off the Dragon Ball scouter numbers, it would seem Goku loses, but I find them heavily flawed myself. However, it is a progressive story, and that said Gohan should still take this if he gets a rage boost.

[DBZAOTA482]

What about ;
Kid Goku at his best vs Kid Gohan Saiyan Saga

Kid Goku tries to draw out Gohan's hidden potential like Cell did, only Goku damages his toys and Gohan sucker punches him....while crying like a bitch.

[JP6GAMER]

Ten vs Krillin (at their best)

[Saiyan Prince Vegeta]

Ten vs Krillin (at their best)

The Battle of Gods bios state that Kuririn is the strongest earthling, and there's this from "DB Tenkaichi Densetsu"

Toriyama:
Kuririn was originally supposed to be just a minor role, so to have him become Goku’s best friend in the blink of an eye…

Koyama:
Well, he is the strongest Earthling male.

Toriyama:
You’re right, he is the strongest among the Earthlings. But in spite of that, he tends to end up in a bad way, so I thought, “once in a while, I have to let him be happy,” and had him get married. (laughs)

So I say Kuririn

[Kaboom]

Yep, the latest official thing we have to go by tells us that Kuririn is still the strongest Earthling. So barring any Kikoho/Kienzan usage, he'd still beat Tenshinhan. That is, unless his skills have become downright cripplingly rusty over the years to the point that Ten can make up for the unknown power gap.

[Fox666]

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[TheMightyOzaru]

Does Tien even qualify as an Earthling? He is a member of the 3-eyed tribe after all. Furthermore Tien trains practically 24/7 and Krillin does not, Krillin even slacks and loses power because of it. Tien most certainly has this in the bag.

[Rocketman]

The excuses people come up with to justify NO TIEN IS STRONGEST are baffling.

[Fox666]

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[Saiga]

The excuses people come up with to justify NO TIEN IS STRONGEST are baffling.

Truly.

Anyway, Gohan would defeat Goku no contest, there's way too much of a gap for Goku to put up any sort of fight. And yeah, Kuririn would beat Tenshinhan..

[TheMightyOzaru]

The excuses people come up with to justify NO TIEN IS STRONGEST are baffling.

It's simple logic. Krillin doesn't train very often, Tien does. Naturally he would be the strongest. I would be inclined to say Krillin is stronger if he had trained during the 7 year time frame between the Cell arc and the Buu arc but he didn't. Tien also has the Kikoho

[Saiga]

The excuses people come up with to justify NO TIEN IS STRONGEST are baffling.

It's simple logic. Krillin doesn't train very often, Tenshinhan does. Naturally he would be the strongest. I would be inclined to say Krillin is stronger if he had trained during the 7 year time frame between the Cell arc and the Buu arc but he didn't. Tenshinhan also has the Kikoho

That's not logical at all. Dragon Ball doesn't work that way, as seen where Vegeta trains his ass off only to still be second to Goku. Goku even said that Vegeta would have had to have trained harder than him.

[TheMightyOzaru]

The excuses people come up with to justify NO TIEN IS STRONGEST are baffling.

It's simple logic. Krillin doesn't train very often, Tenshinhan does. Naturally he would be the strongest. I would be inclined to say Krillin is stronger if he had trained during the 7 year time frame between the Cell arc and the Buu arc but he didn't. Tenshinhan also has the Kikoho

That's not logical at all. Dragon Ball doesn't work that way, as seen where Vegeta trains his ass off only to still be second to Goku. Goku even said that Vegeta would have had to have trained harder than him.

Tien would still surpass him within 7 years. His gains might be small but even small gains can surpass a Krillin that was losing power over those 7 years. If you can provide evidence of Krillin training over those 7 years I would be inclined to say Krillin is the stronger of the 2.

[Saiga]

Tenshinhan would still surpass him within 7 years. His gains might be small but even small gains can surpass a Krillin that was losing power over those 7 years. If you can provide evidence of Krillin training over those 7 years I would be inclined to say Krillin is the stronger of the 2.

Why would he? The gap was huge after Kuririn got his potential unlocked. We don't know anything of Tenshinhan's training in those 7 years but it's more likely than not that he didn't do any kind of special training so I don't see why he'd have to surpass Kuririn. And we also have no evidence that Kuririn was losing power over that time.

[Kaboom]

Kuririn still being stronger than Tenshinhan despite not training is totally and easily plausible. All it would mean is Kuririn had a big lead that Ten hasn't managed to close.

Gohan didn't train during those seven years either, but would that alone be enough reason to assume Piccolo or Vegeta surpassed him?

[TheMightyOzaru]

Tenshinhan would still surpass him within 7 years. His gains might be small but even small gains can surpass a Krillin that was losing power over those 7 years. If you can provide evidence of Krillin training over those 7 years I would be inclined to say Krillin is the stronger of the 2.

Why would he? The gap was huge after Kuririn got his potential unlocked. We don't know anything of Tenshinhan's training in those 7 years but it's more likely than not that he didn't do any kind of special training so I don't see why he'd have to surpass Kuririn. And we also have no evidence that Kuririn was losing power over that time.

I don't think the gap was that massive. I have Tien at 45,000 to Krillin's 75,000. Tien is still increasing while Krillin is decreasing, he would be if has been slacking. I suppose training with 18 for 10 days might increase Krillins power a lot though. I'll have to look into this.
EDIT: Yeah I forgot to take into account that Tien doesn't really train with anyone, this yields no sparring increases in his life thus leaving a rather large gap between him and Krillin for most of the series. Then take into account the 10 day sparring session between Krillin and 18 and you get a rather large increase making up for the slack of not training for 7 years. Yeah Krillin takes this one assuming Tien doesn't get a Kikoho off.

[Mystic Gohan]

From the Boo saga until the EoZ, it's likely that Goku hasn't surpassed Mystic Gohan, so it's not ridiculous Tien doesn't surpass Krillin, even if Krillin didn't train.