Fusioned names

kvon · Post by **kvon** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 9:49 pm

If this question has been answered, please direct me to its topic. If not, read on.

Are there any rules regarding naming fusioned characters?

The fusion characters Gotenks, Gogeta, Vegetto, Veku, and Majuub all had been named by taking a certain part of the separate characters' names and combined together.

Why Gogeta instead of Vegetto in the Fusion Dance, and Vegetto instead of Gogeta by Potara?

I figured that there must some sort of rules since Toriyama put the "Go" part of Goku and Goten in front of the name they later become. ("Go"geta, "Go"tenks) Is it because the Son family is superior?

Then how do you explain Vege"tto". ("tto" being the end of Kakaro"tto".)

Another question, why "Vegeta plus Kakarot" instead of "Vegeta plus Son Goku" by Potara?

Domon · Post by **Domon** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 9:59 pm

They've used whatever sounded good. I doubt there's any deep meaning behind the names.

Nekoni · Post by **Nekoni** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 10:02 pm

Yeah, the rules are some are canon and some aren't

There doesn't seem to be anything beyond interesting -sounding- names. I could be mistaken, but face value seems to be all there is to it.

Vegetto.. Well, part of Vegetto considers himself Kakarotto, and part considers himself Son Goku... so there is that 50/50 chance he'd consider himself part Kakarotto *cheesy grin*

Fusions, it seems, are very well fused

I supose you could think of them like offspring in how they inherit traits...

What's everyone else think? I mean, I'm a fusions fan, but I'm no Akira Toriyama!

Post by **desirecampbell** » Sat Mar 18, 2006 10:15 pm

Mike explained it pretty well in this thread.

VegettoEX wrote:I don't know if that's so much a theory as opposed to what it actually is ^^;;.

The only one that makes no sense is FUNimation's "Vejito"... considering they don't spell "Vegeta" with a "j" in there (nor an "i"), and they don't keep the "-to" on the end of "Kakarot". Why on earth they didn't stick with "Vegetto" is beyond me.

The only thing you're missing is that Vegeta's name is romanized as "bejîta" (ベジータ).

ベジータ (bejîta) + カカロット (kakarotto) = ベジット (bejitto)

悟空 (goku) + ベジータ (bejîta) = ゴジータ (gojiita)

Hopefully I didn't mess any of that up...!

And then depending on how *you* (being a general, individual "you") choose to romanize and spell names, you'd spell the fusion names accordingly. For example, if you spell the name as "Vejita", it would make sense for you to spell the fusion as "Gojita".

Dayspring · Post by **Dayspring** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 11:01 am

I agree with Domon. For Gotenks, I think it went as followed:

1) Goten + (Trun)ks = Gotenks.

2) Trun(ks)+(Go)ten = Trunten.

But then with Goku and Vegeta:

1) Go(ku) + (Ve)geta = Gogeta

2) Vege(ta) + (Kakaro)tto = Vegetto

3) Ve(geta) + (Go)ku = Veku

Kaioshin fusions (non-dub):

1) Kaioshin + Kibito = Kaioshin

2) Rou Kaioshin + ???? (Witch) = Rou Kaioshin

Fan-fusions:

1) Dende + (Kakaro)tto = Denderotto

2) P(iccolo) + (K)rillin = Prillin

SpaceKappa · Post by **SpaceKappa** » Sun Mar 19, 2006 2:33 pm

The fan name for Piccolo and Kuririn is Piririn.

http://www.daizex.com/guides/transforma ... ndex.shtml

Chibi Mystic Gohan · Post by **Chibi Mystic Gohan** » Mon Mar 20, 2006 3:19 pm

Actually, he's named in the advertisment

Xyex · Post by **Xyex** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 2:18 am

I've always figured the more dominant personality traits determine the name. Gogeta's more Goku than Vegeta while Vegetto's more Vegeta than Goku (since he does say Goku + Kakarotto it's pretty obvious) and, of course, Gotenks is more Goten than Trunks. Even though that last one could be debated with Gotenks show-off-y personality being more like Trunks, if you think about it it does still and up.

Zackarotto · Post by **Zackarotto** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 7:37 pm

Xyex wrote:I've always figured the more dominant personality traits determine the name. Gogeta's more Goku than Vegeta while Vegetto's more Vegeta than Goku (since he does say Goku + Kakarotto it's pretty obvious) and, of course, Gotenks is more Goten than Trunks. Even though that last one could be debated with Gotenks show-off-y personality being more like Trunks, if you think about it it does still and up.

I've always figured the same, even though I've never seen the movie with Gogeta in it... I just jumped to the conclusion that Gogeta was more like Goku, because I like the thought of that.

But uh, Goku and Kakarotto? One hell of a fusion that would be.

I wonder what I'd be if I fused with Goku... probably Zoku?

Nekoni · Post by **Nekoni** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 8:56 pm

Ah I totally don't agree to that aproach.

Everybody I know says Vegetto's like Vegeta,
and Gogeta's like Vegeta,
and Gotenks' like Vegeta
*big sweatdrop*

The fusions are just really well fused. I mean, if Vegetto's a Vegeta-clone, why're his ideals the same as Goku's, and his speech pattern (as far as I can tell?) so similar? (and why are there so many pics of SSJ2 Goku labeled Vegetto? XD)

and if Gogeta's so much like Goku, why does he have this incredible cruel and egotistic streak like Vegeta?

^_^; I just think they have equal traits, this way and the other.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 9:24 pm

Isn't it that a somewhat arrogant, show-offy personality a universal side effect of Fusions (for Saiyans, after all)? If that is the case, then no wonder everyone says they're all like Vegeta.

Post by **desirecampbell** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 9:29 pm

SSj Kaboom wrote:Isn't it that a somewhat arrogant, show-offy personality a universal side effect of Fusions (for Saiyans, after all)? If that is the case, then no wonder everyone says they're all like Vegeta.

Well, the only fusions we see are with Trunks and Vegeta - who naturally like to show off. So we can't rightly say that 'being a show-off' is a side effect of fusion.

Nekoni · Post by **Nekoni** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 9:45 pm

Yup, take Kibito-Kai for example (KaiouBitto, however you spell it)

Total nervous wreck.

Post by **desirecampbell** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 9:52 pm

Nekoni wrote:Yup, take Kibito-Kai for example (KaiouBitto, however you spell it)

Total nervous wreck.

The Kaioshins seems to have special effects for fuzions: one voice, seemingly one personality. Perhaps the potara earings work differently for them (because they are gods) and fusion for them works more like Namekkian merging.

BlueSky · Post by **Kaboom** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 10:07 pm

desirecampbell wrote: Well, the only fusions we see are with Trunks and Vegeta - who naturally like to show off. So we can't rightly say that 'being a show-off' is a side effect of fusion.

I guess you're right. However, SSj4 Gogeta showed off plenty, and his personality is supposedly mostly Goku-influenced...

Then again, that all depends on if you count GT or not. Or even the movies, for that matter.

Nekoni · Post by **Nekoni** » Tue Mar 21, 2006 10:22 pm

I include Veku as Gogeta too, (despite the dispute over his name *sweatdrop*)

He's prideful of himself, arrogant, egotistical... everything Vegeta is, but a bit looser, happier, like Goku. (The same is said in GT. Gogeta acts there like Vegeta, if he was happier, more light-hearted and had the immense power Goku had. Gogeta openly picks on and ridicules Ii Shinron, something Goku'd never do.) I must state here though that it's somewhat redundant to call one Gogeta canon and the other not, as neither are canon to the manga. (infact, for 'canon to the manga' he's removed from the name equasion entirely)

The fusions are somewhat complex characters, we can't really sum them up all in one shot ^_^;

Perhaps this is becoming a little OT, I suggest a new topic?

Akira · Post by **Akira** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 2:06 pm

The notion that any of the fusions are more one character than another is purely a fan-concocted, internet perpetuated myth that has yet to be exterminated by logic.

All fusions are equally 50-50 both characters that they are comprised of, simple as that.

MajinVejitaXV · Post by **MajinVejitaXV** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 6:11 pm

Akira wrote:The notion that any of the fusions are more one character than another is purely a fan-concocted, internet perpetuated myth that has yet to be exterminated by logic.

All fusions are equally 50-50 both characters that they are comprised of, simple as that.

Err, I gotta disagree. Sure, it's a fan-myth with no real backing, but trying to use logic as a basis for debunking anything in DragonBall is a one-way ticket to ridiculous ;p

Personally, I like the 'dominant personality' theory. Why? Well, let's examine the characters themselves:

Gojita: Putting aside his last moments in Movie 12, Gojita displays a very playful mentality, which seems to be more indicative of Son Goku than Vejita. I mean, which is more likely to come up with the 'deadly' party-favor Kamehameha: Goku or Vejita?

Vejitto: In contrast, Vejitto is more of a showoff (in both the anime and manga). Vejitto forms and proceeds to showoff by beating Buu and countering all his attacks, very reminicent of the Vejita vs. #19 fight. Couple that with the aforementioned 'Kakarotto' reference, and you've got the Prince of the Saiyajin written all over it.

Gotenks: A little more difficult, given that both kids show off. This one could actually go either way, but perhaps results in a more balanced union given that Goten and Trunks don't have as fierce a rivalry as their fathers.

Just my thoughts.

-Corey

Nekoni · Post by **Nekoni** » Thu Mar 23, 2006 10:44 pm

Both actually. Goku's more layed back, and Vegeta's personality traits would allow the ridiculing and tricking the other character in such a degrading manner. (admit it, Goku's got all the power he needs to do that, but not the cruel-streak)

Vegetto is, (as you have pointed out with your references) Part Vegeta. But his deterimination, his speech, his battle cunning and his priorities are Goku's.

Seriously, psychologicaly fans commonly just compare and relate the fusions to their favourite component. So in the Vegeta-fan laden waters I emerge from, Vegetto and Gogeta are merely Vegeta's clones. (how boring would that be?)

Ah I guess we're all entitled to our opinions on this anyway

Duo · Post by **Duo** » Fri Mar 24, 2006 4:37 pm

Akira wrote:The notion that any of the fusions are more one character than another is purely a fan-concocted, internet perpetuated myth that has yet to be exterminated by logic.

All fusions are equally 50-50 both characters that they are comprised of, simple as that.

Absolutely correct!

I know Vegetto "toyed around" with Boo a lot and all, as so many people bring up, but they completely ignore the fact that Vegetto was just trying to get Boo to absorb him! Vegetto was putting on an act from the moment they fused, which means we never see what his "natural personality" is like.

Gogeta is a tough case, because the two appearances he makes show his personality as completely opposite from the other. However, both figheters are very apparent both times. Fifty Fifty.

Akira nailed it, and I dragged it out. w00t.

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