Movie 8 Broly's Strength

[Zephyr]

You see, that's the problem of people who can't understand the difference between 10 days Goku and Gohan to Cell Games Goku and Gohan. 10 days Goku and Gohan displayed way less power

Cell Games FPSSjin Goku > 50% MSSjin Goku > 10 days SSjin Goku ~ M8 Goku

The talk of design is nice and all, but that doesn't necessarily influence anything in universe. It doesn't explain this supposed magical boost in power as a result of sitting around for 10 days.

[Undertaker]

You see, that's the problem of people who can't understand the difference between 10 days Goku and Gohan to Cell Games Goku and Gohan. 10 days Goku and Gohan displayed way less power

Cell Games FPSSjin Goku > 50% MSSjin Goku > 10 days SSjin Goku ~ M8 Goku

The talk of design is nice and all, but that doesn't necessarily influence anything in universe. It doesn't explain this supposed magical boost in power as a result of sitting around for 10 days.

M8 Goku is simply the same Goku from the 10 days wait who is 4X weaker than his Cell Games self IMO because his Cell Games self never even existed

[Kaboom]

You don't seem to understand what some are trying to tell you, Undertaker. The heroes being weaker in Movie 8 than they were in the Cell Games is a good theory. But there is no actual proof of it. "X came before Y" is not proof. It's not good enough to convince other people that it's the solid fact you're treating it as.

Even though I have provided a lot of evidence before?

Yes! It's all evidence, and very good evidence, and the same evidence with which I support my subscription to the same theory. But none of it is definitive proof. Nowhere in the movie itself or in any other supplemental material are the Movie 8 heroes said to be weaker than they were at the Cell Games.

[Zephyr]

M8 Goku is simply the same Goku from the 10 days wait who is 4X weaker than his Cell Games self IMO because his Cell Games self never even existed

Yes, that's the out of universe explanation for the inspiration of his design.

But where is the in universe explanation for Goku receiving a power boost from doing nothing for 10 days?

[Undertaker]

You don't seem to understand what some are trying to tell you, Undertaker. The heroes being weaker in Movie 8 than they were in the Cell Games is a good theory. But there is no actual proof of it. "X came before Y" is not proof. It's not good enough to convince other people that it's the solid fact you're treating it as.

Even though I have provided a lot of evidence before?

Yes! It's all evidence, and very good evidence, and the same evidence with which I support my subscription to the same theory. But none of it is definitive proof. Nowhere in the movie itself or in any other supplemental material are the Movie 8 heroes said to be weaker than they were at the Cell Games.

and nothing says they were as strong as they were during the Cell Games. This is like saying nothing says M4 Heros were not as strong as they were vs Frieza so they can be. That's a lame argument and besides, when too much evidence support the same claim it makes it fact. A theory is Fat Boo being 80% of SSjin 3 Goku and even the designs of M8 support my point.

that's the out of universe explanation for the inspiration of his design.

But where is the in universe explanation for Goku receiving a power boost from doing nothing for 10 days?

Goku was suppressing more than half of his power during the 10 days and this is the power he displays in M8

[hleV]

nothing says they were as strong as they were during the Cell Games.

Nothing says they weren't.

[Undertaker]

nothing says they were as strong as they were during the Cell Games.

Nothing says they weren't.

Everything says they were not. Their designs are based on the Perfect Cell Arc, the scenes of the movie are copied from there, the movie was produced by the time of Perfect Cell and USSjin 2 Trunks, their appearance etc etc..

Nothing says M4 Z Fighters are not as strong as they were vs Frieza so I guess they are now...