Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

[TheRed259]

I think that we should post this one as well :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-f2V4jmo8L0

[JeffJarrett]

In which episode? I mean no Dai Kaio's planet.

When he is sick in the Super 17 Saga

[Dorexx]

Not sure if anyone brought this up, but we've seen in GT as well that Kaio's planet is restored, and was never told how. Maybe they came with an explanation now and that could be part of the reason?

What, really? I remember only scene with kaio, talking to Goku from the planet of Dai Kaio, when they used black star dragon balls.

Yeah, he apparently goes back and forth. At first he's on Dai Kaio's planet, then in the Super 17 Arc he's on his planet, but still dead, then during the final arc he's back on Dai Kaio's again. Seems that he can teleport after all.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

The fact that they include elements from the movie in the manga-only guidebook Chozenshuu 1, they officially call the movie as part of the official history of Dragon Ball, they call the movie as a Toriyama work, Toriyama includes Birusu in the Kaio planet backstory, and that booklet includes the final battle with Birusu as one of the final battles in DBZ, all there scream canon to me, even if their purpose is to promote the movie.

[Super Gazellian]

-Notice how Gohan had black hair before being hit in the gut....

He probably dropped out of the form after Birusu smacked his head against Buu's giant bubblegum dome.

I'm now beginning to wonder whether Birusu actually beats the "Ultimate" out of Gohan... That'd be kinda hilarious.

[Saiyan Prince Vegeta]

First it is a commercial announcement, secondly it's not a side-story because it doesn't take place during a major arc contrary to the other movies (Saiyan Arc for 1-3, Freeza Arc for 4-5, Androids/Cell Games for 6-9, Majin Buu for 10-13).

I was mainly on about them taking a shot at GT because of Toriyama calling GT a side story. With Toriyama's involvement it seems like they're gonna ignore it, we'll just have to wait and see though.

The fact that they include elements from the movie in the manga-only guidebook Chozenshuu 1, they officially call the movie as part of the official history of Dragon Ball, they call the movie as a Toriyama work, Toriyama includes Birusu in the Kaio planet backstory, and that booklet includes the final battle with Birusu as one of the final battles in DBZ, all there scream canon to me, even if their purpose is to promote the movie.

This is how I view it too.

[NeoKING]

After watching the trailer, I believe that we can say (with some certainty) that the SSJ God form has a shockingly vivid blue aura and up swept hair (which appears for a microsecond within the blue aura enveloping him).

No, you can't say that with any certainty, because it's obvious that he's just powering up into the state and that's not how the state actually looks. They wouldn't show us the form in the trailer [like that], they're clearly trying to keep it a secret.

[NeoKING]

Not sure if anyone brought this up, but we've seen in GT as well that Kaio's planet is restored, and was never told how. Maybe they came with an explanation now and that could be part of the reason?

What, really? I remember only scene with kaio, talking to Goku from the planet of Dai Kaio, when they used black star dragon balls.

Whenever King Kai is seen in GT he's on some brand new world that looks nothing like a setting we've seen in Z. Just like how they changed how Hell looks, they changed King Kai's planet as well for no apparent reason. Yeah, GT was ... surreal.

[JeffJarrett]

Not sure if anyone brought this up, but we've seen in GT as well that Kaio's planet is restored, and was never told how. Maybe they came with an explanation now and that could be part of the reason?

What, really? I remember only scene with kaio, talking to Goku from the planet of Dai Kaio, when they used black star dragon balls.

Whenever King Kai is seen in GT he's on some brand new world that looks nothing like a setting we've seen in Z. Just like how they changed how Hell looks, they changed King Kai's planet as well for no apparent reason. Yeah, GT was ... surreal.

No, King Kai is clearly on the roof of Grand Kai's castle in most GT:





And he is briefly shown on back on his planet while sick during the Super 17 Saga.

Also, only Area 1, Sector 3 of Hell is shown in DBZ (=around the bloody pond). GT simply shows us another Sector or Area.

[Shineman]

I'm interested of this Super Saiyan God concept. Perhaps it's a temporary transformation? Or, if going the route to include GT, could possibly explain why Goku became so strong (Perhaps, he needs to be a certain battle power in order to activate such transformation in the movie?).

Also, I see no reason why GT shouldn't be included in the "Official History". I mean, if it not, that's cool. If it is, cool too. Why is it a big deal f they include GT to the Official History or not? It's not going to kill Dragon Ball or something

[Saiyan Prince Vegeta]

Also, I see no reason why GT shouldn't be included in the "Official History". I mean, if it not, that's cool. If it is, cool too. Why is it a big deal f they include GT to the Official History or not? It's not going to kill Dragon Ball or something

I don't view it as a part of the official history because Toriyama wasn't involved in it, which he says here. "The people from the TV anime were wanting to continue just a little further, but since I didn't want to do any more than I already had, I ended up leaving everything, including the story, up to the people on the anime staff." He also calls it a side story which is another reason why I won't call it a part of the "official history"

[VegettoEX]

But it's not like Toriyama wrote the entire script and drew all the panels for this movie, either, so at the end of the day you have to almost draw a line in the sand and decide for yourself how much involvement is "enough" for you to personally consider it... well... "I DECLARE IT CANONICAL!"

... while simultaneously recognizing that not everyone's going to agree with you.

[Saiyan Prince Vegeta]

But it's not like Toriyama wrote the entire script and drew all the panels for this movie, either, so at the end of the day you have to almost draw a line in the sand and decide for yourself how much involvement is "enough" for you to personally consider it... well... "I DECLARE IT CANONICAL!"

... while simultaneously recognizing that not everyone's going to agree with you.

I'd say him being involved as much as he's said he is, and him putting it into the manga's history (Kaios planet) is enough for me. With GT he said it was a side story and didn't say he was involved with the story either, atleast with this he is.

[JeffJarrett]

A glimpse at Super Saiyan God Goku?!

[eledoremassis02]

I just noticed he has the emblem on his shirt.

[samuraix123]

I just noticed in the new trailer bilus? or bills? however you pronounce his name lol is giving Gotenks a spanking lol This movie is going to be great.

[Thanos]

Piccolo fighting. <3

-Notice how Gohan had black hair before being hit in the gut....

He probably dropped out of the form after Birusu smacked his head against Buu's giant bubblegum dome.

I'm now beginning to wonder whether Birusu actually beats the "Ultimate" out of Gohan... That'd be kinda hilarious.

Being a god, I could see him draining Gohan of that power... or maybe they went back and corrected the frames with black ink, like the scene with Goku and Paikuhan?

[Saiyan Prince Vegeta]

A glimpse at Super Saiyan God Goku?!

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Thanks for posting the pic Thats red in his hair right? I really can't imagine what he will look like at all.

[FindKenshi]

I was merely pointing out that Toei seemed to almost be boasting about Toriyama's close involvement, and that it's being used as a selling point for the movie. And while I recognize that Toriyama including stuff about Bills in the back story for Kaio's world, as well as the movie being listed in newer guidebooks about the manga is just promotional... it still makes the argument for the movie being canon. Of course some purist fans will still reject it (unless the content of the movie is very agreeable to them, then they may come around), but I'd say the argument that the movie "counts" at the very least is a valid one.

Anyway.. what I'm more excited about.. is the actual movie. How cool is this. What do you guys think? New miniseries? It's possible, right? I imagine if the movie is a hit and sells a ton of tickets and ends up making a decent profit, it's not unimaginable? At the very least we're certain to get new games out of it, so can't wait for that either.

I'm really, really hoping this revitalizes Dragonball in a way that Kai seemingly failed to do. There's nothing wrong with a Dragonball for the next generation of fans.

[NeoKING]

Guys, please stop saying that Super Saiyan God is in the trailer. Goku's about to make the transformation, but he's not in the trailer. If he was, we would've seen an image of SSG in the last V-Jump. Once again, SSG itself is not in the trailer, no matter how fast you pause the video. It's like saying if you look really closely in Dragon Ball you can see the robot bug that collected data on Goku to create Cell.