How violent will the new movie be?

[VegettoEX]

That's not really an appropriate response, now, is it...?

[Ginkasa]

I would say its more appropriate than his post, but its not my website. I'll edit to be a little more substantial.

[Big Momma]

I remember there being enough...and yeah I think you guys have been watching it on Nicktoons too much...

If you think any less than 95% of the active members on this forum haven't seen most of/the entirety of DB/Z/GT in it's uncut form, you haven't been paying attention. Besides a few key moments here and there, the amount of blood in the series has been minimal. Even at it's "grittiest", the series is relatively tame compared to other Shounen. Especially FMA, where blood is actually central to the plot.

Personally, I wouldn't mind the typical "trail of blood from the mouth/hairline" here and there, as it reinforces the image of a tough battle...but not having it certainly wouldn't-and shouldn't-ruin the experience.

[Hellspawn28]

And since when were PG's allowed to say bastard? xD

I think the first few Indiana Jones did and they were PG? The violence in DBZ is nothing that a PG movie can't handle like many people said already. The second Indiana Jones had a guy's heart rip out and it was PG. Other PG movies had very bloody moments like the Godzilla films from the 70's were you had blood splatters all over the screen when Anguirus got buzz saw in the face from Gigan. Dracula Has Risen from the Grave from 1968 also has two very bloody impaling of Dracula's body which is rated G ! Dracula A.D. 1972 is also rated PG and it has Dracula is killed by a fall into a pit of stakes which pretty violent.

[bleed0range]

Conisdering how they censored parts of kai compared to the original run of dbz... I am of the opinion that it may in fact get dumbed down ever so slightly.

[Super Gazellian]

And since when were PG's allowed to say bastard? xD

I think the first few Indiana Jones did and they were PG? The violence in DBZ is nothing that a PG movie can't handle like many people said already. The second Indiana Jones had a guy's heart rip out and it was PG. Other PG movies had very bloody moments like the Godzilla films from the 70's were you had blood splatters all over the screen when Anguirus got buzz saw in the face from Gigan. Dracula Has Risen from the Grave from 1968 also has two very bloody impaling of Dracula's body which is rated G ! Dracula A.D. 1972 is also rated PG and it has Dracula is killed by a fall into a pit of stakes which pretty violent.

Oh wow. Y'know I think I'm just going off what my opinion of a PG should be rather than what it actually is. I gotta remember there must be a reason to jump from a U to a PG Still, the fact it's had to be edited for certain networks holds up that it was pretty violent for kids.

To get back on topic though, I don't imagine any new DBZ to be particularly violent.

[Nex Carnifex]

Because Dragon Ball is mostly about action, so things like blood are necessary to give an impact to the visuals and make watching it grittier and thus more entertaining. Don't give me this bullshit about "violence doesn't matter, language doesn't matter, graphics don't matter" if nothing fucking mattered I'd read the summary on Wikipedia and be done with it.

Let me give you an example, if Fullmetal Alchemist had no blood, do you think people would give as much of a shit about it as they do? The answer is no, and the reason goes beyond "FMA fans are immature children that like bloody shit", no, the level of violence is actually important in drama and action comics and animation, it taps into a primitive sense of danger, excitement, fear, and despair that we have since when you get hit really hard, blasted with deadly energy, or cut in half you bleed, that's how it is in the real world and according to the manga and anime that's how it is in the Dragon Ball world as well.

I'm just hoping this movie isn't dumbed down to appease the "fragile" minds of small children who don't need to be protected in a world where kids have access to the internet anyway. If this movie lacks the level of action of Dragon Ball, Dragon Ball Z, Dragon Ball GT, or even Dragon Ball Kai I will be very disappointed and worried about the future of the franchise.

Edited:

I find sentiments such as this to be just as silly as people who freak out about their being too much violence in DB/Z.

I find pseudo-intellectuals such as yourself pretty laughable when they bring up no substantial points and fail to use the correct "there".

[Ginkasa]

1) I fail to see how your reply is relevant. I don't claim to be an "intellectual," regardless of whatever you meant by using that word. I was also just expressing my opinion of your opinion. There are no points to be made since I'm not really debating any specific argument.

2) Personally, I find it laughable when people think typos somehow invalidate someone's opinion.

[Ringworm128]

I don't understand this anti-violence thinking. We were watching Stallone and Schwarzenneger as kids, not Barney and friends.
And nowadays, we are mentally normal and healthy adult people

Exactly, and really I think anyone who get's over shocked by the violence in DBZ has been a bit too sheltered.

[Nex Carnifex]

Don't discredit my sentiment if you can't give an argument as to why its so silly. And good opinions are usually based upon facts and reasoning you silly head.

[Ringworm128]

It's "silly" because DB isn't that violent. It has a few moments here and there but apart from that it's rather tame. And the only reason people even take notice of those few moments is because of cultural differences. If you're going to say DBZ needs a R rating because of some blood then you might as well say Funimations dub of Kai should be adult only because they say "damn" and "crap" a few times here and there.

[Nex Carnifex]

It's "silly" because DB isn't that violent. It has a few moments here and there but apart from that it's rather tame. And the only reason people even take notice of those few moments is because of cultural differences. If you're going to say DBZ needs a R rating because of some blood then you might as well say Funimations dub of Kai should be adult only because they say "damn" and "crap" a few times here and there.

But if it were realized accurately in live action the rating would clearly be a lot higher. I've already given plenty of examples, really, DBZ is pretty violent, no but seriously, it is, cultural differences or not people getting impaled and bleeding out, getting their necks snapped, cut apart, insides dissolved and eaten, is definitely pretty violent, you must be ridiculous if you consider that not that violent. All I was saying is that I hope this movie has the same level of violence present in at least the anime, as blood and graphic violence isn't pointless as you 'super duper mature dbz fans yo' are pushing, it is important and does add to the excitement and feel of the media greatly and I think if this movie lacks that me and a lot of other non 'super duper mature dbz fans like swearing and blood aren't cool so shuddup' will not be happy.

[Big Momma]

But if it were realized accurately in live action the rating would clearly be a lot higher.

But it's not.

I've already given plenty of examples, really, DBZ is pretty violent, no but seriously, it is, cultural differences or not people getting impaled and bleeding out, getting their necks snapped, cut apart, insides dissolved and eaten, is definitely pretty violent, you must be ridiculous if you consider that not that violent. All I was saying is that I hope this movie has the same level of violence present in at least the anime, as blood and graphic violence isn't pointless as you 'super duper mature dbz fans yo' are pushing, it is important and does add to the excitement and feel of the media greatly and I think if this movie lacks that me and a lot of other non 'super duper mature dbz fans like swearing and blood aren't cool so shuddup' will not be happy.

'super duper mature dbz fans yo'

'super duper mature dbz fans like swearing and blood aren't cool so shuddup'

What.


I've got no problem with swearing and blood. I love Die Hard as much as the next guy. It's just that, as I'm sure a lot of the people in this thread will say, it doesn't belong in Dragon Ball as much as Toei/Funi have implied in the past with their "hardcore" ad campaigns.

At it's core, Dragon Ball is a light-hearted gag-manga-turned-battle Shounen. The anime may have it's "more violent than usual" moments, but they're usually amplified versions of the manga counterpart. A high level of blood/violence just doesn't match the tone and setting of a series filled with monkey-tailed aliens, feminine galactic tyrants, bug-monsters, and bubblegum-pink blobs as villains. The tone of this movie specifically has already shown not to lean towards the more seriousness of the darker parts of the anime. It's got an Oracle Fish (Voiced by a Jpop singer) prophesying to an Egyptian Cat-god. On top of that, there's a return of Pilaf&Co., some of the very first villains of early Dragon Ball...when the series was at it's most tame/comedic. Visually, there's even a super bright/saturated color palette (Which, personally, I'm not too big a fan of).

I'll agree that DBZ does have it's moments of high-violence. But overall, that's not what the series is about...and that's not what this movie is leaning towards.

[Nex Carnifex]

Bringing up the fact there are goofy elements in DBZ doesn't suddenly make the numerous scenes of high violence depicted in both the manga and anime disappear. Yeah Buu is a pink blob, that sounds funny at first, but not when he's shoving himself inside you to the point your stomach rips open, and then your skin rips apart, and you explode from the inside out.

[Super Sonic]

In Japan it's a kids cartoon, whereas internationally they rated it for teens and adults.

Even that poor Sonic Unleashed in Japan was CERO-A and the western rated it as 7+. The game sucked anyway (The Werehog missions).

Actually it was rated E10, and I actually preferred the Werehog missions.

I don't understand this anti-violence thinking. We were watching Stallone and Schwarzenneger as kids, not Barney and friends.
And nowadays, we are mentally normal and healthy adult people

Not me. My parents were strict and wouldn't let me watch R-rated films till I was 11 1/2. (Still was of the group who hated Barney). But yeah, the other movies are pretty much PG, so don't see anything really for change. And as for the mention of some of the violence, the Buu arc was about the same as the violence was in Star Trek VI which had quite a bit of blood and PG.

[Rocketman]

In a surprise twist, Kratos appears and beats Godku to death as the credits roll.

I think the first few Indiana Jones did and they were PG? The violence in DBZ is nothing that a PG movie can't handle like many people said already. The second Indiana Jones had a guy's heart rip out and it was PG. Other PG movies had very bloody moments like the Godzilla films from the 70's were you had blood splatters all over the screen when Anguirus got buzz saw in the face from Gigan. Dracula Has Risen from the Grave from 1968 also has two very bloody impaling of Dracula's body which is rated G :P ! Dracula A.D. 1972 is also rated PG and it has Dracula is killed by a fall into a pit of stakes which pretty violent.

PG-13 wasn't invented until 1984, in part because Temple of Doom was so gory parents made an outcry for a new rating.

[bkev]

I always felt like the fantasy violence that came from all the overpowered-ness of everyone in Z lowered the violence since hand-to-hand combat basically became a joke, or was done in some unrealistic fashion (like when they're flying.) So I don't expect it to be any more violent than that.

[Jackal puFF]

I don't think there will be any blood whatsoever. Just look at Kai, they can't even handle a hole in someone's chest..

[Attitudefan]

I remember the decapitation. It was so brutal it becomes just silly. I don't know why, but I can't take it seriously, and I'm sure that's why Toei removed it. Guldo got decapitated and it wasn't funny like when Gero did it. Something about the art here is just goofy.

[Nex Carnifex]

I don't think there will be any blood whatsoever. Just look at Kai, they can't even handle a hole in someone's chest..

Well Kai was plenty bloody...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svslPIbJD0c