Could have Vegeta's Final Flash fully killed Perfect Cell?

[TheMightyOzaru]

That isn't apparent at all, in either case. Nothing hints to Cell allowing it to happen in that image.

That's why I added the little phrase "to me". I'm not claiming it to be fact but it's what I think to be true since in both cases, Vegeta and Goku failed to remove the other half of Cell's body despite a direct hit on all of his body.

[Saiga]

But if that were the case, there should be some mention of it by Cell. Or at least a hint. The simpler answer is the Cell's upper body took the majority of the force in Goku's Kamehameha.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Goku's Kamehameha, which is stronger, hit all of Cell yet he lived. It's fairly apparent to me that Cell willingly let half his body go, in both cases, to mess with Vegeta and Goku.

Cell was holding back more power against Vegeta than against Goku.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Goku's Kamehameha, which is stronger, hit all of Cell yet he lived. It's fairly apparent to me that Cell willingly let half his body go, in both cases, to mess with Vegeta and Goku.

Cell was holding back more power against Vegeta than against Goku.

Ah so you are implying Cell wouldn't have time to adjust his power? Well He did it against Goku so I see no reason for him to be incapable of doing it against Vegeta. I believe he did it since I saw the attack make contact with Cell.

But if that were the case, there should be some mention of it by Cell. Or at least a hint. The simpler answer is the Cell's upper body took the majority of the force in Goku's Kamehameha.

There are a lot of things in this series that aren't explained. If he took the full force of the attack on his entire body yet only his upper half was injured, I'm gonna have to believe he merely aloud it to happen. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense for Cell to lose only one half of his body even though his entire body took the full force of that attack.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Ah so you are implying Cell wouldn't have time to adjust his power? Well He did it against Goku so I see no reason for him to be incapable of doing it against Vegeta.

What exactly are you talking about.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Ah so you are implying Cell wouldn't have time to adjust his power? Well He did it against Goku so I see no reason for him to be incapable of doing it against Vegeta.

What exactly are you talking about.

Well Since his Kamehameha is a great deal stronger than the standard attacks, Cell would have to adjust his power to survive that attack. He was suppressed to match Goku after all.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Well Since his Kamehameha is a great deal stronger than the standard attacks, Cell would have to adjust his power to survive that attack. He was suppressed to match Goku after all.

But he didn't manage to tank the Kamehameha. The part of his body that took all the force of the attack literally exploded.

[Angelus]

That's just what I call the "beam animation". Look at the animation that the Final Flash beam of Vegeta gave off. If that was an accurate representation of Earth, Vegeta's Final Flash just engulfed the entirety of the North Pole. A beam aura radius that big would have not only hit Cell but also Android 16, Trunks and Krillin. But after the beam was gone, we see that it was only just a beam the size of a small road and not something as massive as Australia or something. Think of it as a Candle. The light can illuminate a dark room at night but only that fire on the candle is actually hot and burning.

Of course, this isn't the same case with a Spirit Bomb.

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

Watch the clip again, Vegeta didn't miss. Cell moved and the only part that got hit was one side of his torso.

OK no. Cell was very clearly hit, he is also still standing where the beam hit. He took it head on.

You would think that Vegeta would not be clumsy with his attack and miss... Also that blast was "super big" it couldn't have only been as big as Cell's right arm

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

I tend to believe FPSSJ Goku's kamehameha was stronger than Vegeta's Final Flash beam.

First, Cell was hiding more than 2/3 of his full power (he powered up both in front of Goku and then again after Gohan transformed)

And then again, even if his beam had not missed, there could still be a SPC as a result, given how it took all SSJ2 Gohan's hidden power just to totally wipe out all of his microscopic cells.

[Legendary Saiya-Jin]

With both Bejiita's technique and Gokuu's, they were worried it would have destroyed the planet. I think it's possible Gokuu's was weaker only because he was able to trick Seru be teleporting in front of him.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Well Since his Kamehameha is a great deal stronger than the standard attacks, Cell would have to adjust his power to survive that attack. He was suppressed to match Goku after all.

But he didn't manage to tank the Kamehameha. The part of his body that took all the force of the attack literally exploded.

Perhaps tanked wasn't the proper term, nonetheless, Cell was enveloped entirely by the Kamehameha. It didn't just make contact with his torso, look at the manna scan I posted on the previous page. It hit Cell in his entirety yet he lived.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

But still, the majority of the damage went to the upper half.

[TheMightyOzaru]

That's just what I call the "beam animation". Look at the animation that the Final Flash beam of Vegeta gave off. If that was an accurate representation of Earth, Vegeta's Final Flash just engulfed the entirety of the North Pole. A beam aura radius that big would have not only hit Cell but also Android 16, Trunks and Krillin. But after the beam was gone, we see that it was only just a beam the size of a small road and not something as massive as Australia or something. Think of it as a Candle. The light can illuminate a dark room at night but only that fire on the candle is actually hot and burning.

Of course, this isn't the same case with a Spirit Bomb.

Look at Goku's hands, Cell's entire body is within that line of fire yet he lived. Again sorry for the double post, I'm on my tablet again.

[TheMightyOzaru]

But still, the majority of the damage went to the upper half.

That's a non point. Why is his upper half more durable than his lower half? It would seem to me that Cell let his upper half go. That aside, your argument with Vegeta is if his Final Flash hit all of Cell, he would die. All of Goku's kamehameha hit Cell yet he lived so what makes Vegeta's Final Flash any different?

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

That's just what I call the "beam animation". Look at the animation that the Final Flash beam of Vegeta gave off. If that was an accurate representation of Earth, Vegeta's Final Flash just engulfed the entirety of the North Pole. A beam aura radius that big would have not only hit Cell but also Android 16, Trunks and Krillin. But after the beam was gone, we see that it was only just a beam the size of a small road and not something as massive as Australia or something. Think of it as a Candle. The light can illuminate a dark room at night but only that fire on the candle is actually hot and burning.

Of course, this isn't the same case with a Spirit Bomb.

Look at Goku's hands, Cell's entire body is within that line of fire yet he lived. Again sorry for the double post, I'm on my tablet again.

Perhaps too close.. reason for him still being alive was that Goku wasn't standing far enough away. If Goku was lets say 20 feet off, Cell's entire body would be engulfed in the beam blast.

[TheMightyOzaru]

That's just what I call the "beam animation". Look at the animation that the Final Flash beam of Vegeta gave off. If that was an accurate representation of Earth, Vegeta's Final Flash just engulfed the entirety of the North Pole. A beam aura radius that big would have not only hit Cell but also Android 16, Trunks and Krillin. But after the beam was gone, we see that it was only just a beam the size of a small road and not something as massive as Australia or something. Think of it as a Candle. The light can illuminate a dark room at night but only that fire on the candle is actually hot and burning.

Of course, this isn't the same case with a Spirit Bomb.

Look at Goku's hands, Cell's entire body is within that line of fire yet he lived. Again sorry for the double post, I'm on my tablet again.

Perhaps too close.. reason for him still being alive was that he wasn't standing far enough away. If he was lets say 20 feet off, Cell's entire body would engulfed in the beam blast.

A point blank attack has even higher chance of killing him so I'm not sure where you're going with that...

[Eternal Super Saiyan]

Well notice Goku's hands were aimed sorta high.. like he was aiming for his face, and thats what was blown away :XD

[TheMightyOzaru]

Well notice Goku's hands were aimed sorta high.. like he was aiming for his face, and thats what was blown away :XD

The beam still hit Cell in his entirety. Whether it was supposed to hit his head or not is irrelevant, what actually happened is what matters.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

But still, the majority of the damage went to the upper half.

That's a non point. Why is his upper half more durable than his lower half? It would seem to me that Cell let his upper half go. That aside, your argument with Vegeta is if his Final Flash hit all of Cell, he would die. All of Goku's kamehameha hit Cell yet he lived so what makes Vegeta's Final Flash any different?

Vegeta's Final Flash managed to hit the right half of Cell's body. Cell tried to dodge at the last minute, since the Final Flash was clearly heading for the center of Cell's body, yet it took away only half of it, and the injury even had the shape of the ki blast.
Goku's Kamehameha exploded in Cell's body first, and then covered all of his body. Cell's upper half was completely destroyed. We have never seen a partial suppression of ki. One either suppresses his ki and makes his whole body weaker, or strengthen his whole body with his ki. We have seen Goku concentrating more ki in a certain point of his body, but we have never seen the opposite (taking away the ki from a portion of the body). Besides, Cell took the Kamehameha by surprise, he didn't have anytime to react.