Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods"

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:06 pm

Pantalones wrote:Of course, future Trunks seems to have had "Gohan-type" aging while main-timeline Trunks has "Goku-type" aging. Guess that's yet another timeline difference.
Another?
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by MajinVegetaSSj6 » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:07 pm

Does anyone else find this hilarious? Super Saiyan God came to stop the bad Saiyans, but the time limit ran out - so the person who originally was the SSG probably got his ass waxed by those very same bad Saiyans the moment the form ran dry, lol.

I don't understand...Super Saiyan God appears long time ago on Planet Vegeta to stop bad Saiyans, than time limit ran out and he got beaten by those saiyans...but so you can became a Super Saiyan God without being able to transform in normal Super Saiyan??? 'cause i can't believe that a normal Super Saiyan can be defeated by bad Saiyans, when his SSG state ran out...sorry for my bad english guys...what do you think??

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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Kaboom » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:08 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:I like that theory, or outlook rather. That and, if this movie was really set two years after the Boo arc, it runs dangerously close to the exact same time frame as the JSAT special, so spreading it out a little more is better.
Indeed. Leaves plenty of time for things like Gohan and Videl (apparently) getting married, Kuririn and Videl to change their hair, Goku to catch up to Gohan and Gotenks the slackers in power...

... Oh, and I just realized it fits THIS pretty darn well.

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Nex Carnifex wrote:I'm sure you can come up with something, the possibilities are endless when writing fiction :0 I think a cool idea is Goku goes SS4 and Baby responds by becoming Golden Oozaru, and SS4 still isn't enough as Baby continuously absorbs energy from the mind controlled Earthlings. Goku calls upon the power of the Super Saiyan God however, utilizing his Saiyan family, and becomes a Super Saiyan 4 God, with glowing red fur and hair.
That does resemble what really did happen in GT, where the other Saiyans popped in and loaned Super Saiyan 4 Goku their "Saiya power" to finish off Baby. So yeah, that COULD work as a sort of adaptation of that... but it'd also be lame. I'm trying to keep my storytelling fresh by avoiding just recycling solutions to past battles. I'd prefer to work around or avoid using "Super Saiyan God" just as much as I'm avoiding using the Spirit Bomb. For that main general reason, I may be better off just letting GTR remain its own thing, spun off from just the manga and only making small nods towards anything else.
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Post by Avenged » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:09 pm

Kei didn't you promise us a sketch of God Goku? 8)
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Post by kei17 » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:10 pm

Now I'm home and writing down the story.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:11 pm

Avenged wrote:Kei didn't you promise us a sketch of God Goku? 8)
But we've already seen it, according to kei17. It's the sketch in the Toei office, but with a red, flaming aura instead of a yellow/golden.
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Post by Chuquita » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:12 pm

I still want to see the sketch. :3
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Post by mikey41 » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:12 pm

wait, Vegeta puts up a better fight than Gohan? wtf

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Post by jjgp1112 » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:13 pm

Pantalones wrote:I don't see a problem with Goten, Trunks or Marron's ages vs. how old they appear. Goten and Trunks are part Saiyan (and we know that Goku didn't look like a teenager at age 12 or even at age 15), and Marron is part Krillin (and he also stayed a runt for a long time before finally getting taller.)

Of course, future Trunks seems to have had "Gohan-type" aging while main-timeline Trunks has "Goku-type" aging. Guess that's yet another timeline difference.

Dende jumping back and forth between teenager-sized and older-kid-sized (and then adult-sized by the time Uub shows up) is more of an inconsistency, but then again he was inconsistent even in the original series, so...
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Post by Big Momma » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:18 pm

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Xagani wrote:Does Vegeta go SS3? And how does pilaf and the gang get turned into kids?
No he doesn't, but he once becomes stronger than Goku because of his anger against Bills slapping Bulma. As for Pilaf's gang, they have become young because they gathered all the dragon Balls themselves and wished for youth, but Senglong made them a little but too young.
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Re: Official On-Going DBZ 2013 Movie Thread: "Battle of Gods

Post by Nex Carnifex » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:18 pm

Kaboom wrote:
Gyt Kaliba wrote:I like that theory, or outlook rather. That and, if this movie was really set two years after the Boo arc, it runs dangerously close to the exact same time frame as the JSAT special, so spreading it out a little more is better.
Indeed. Leaves plenty of time for things like Gohan and Videl (apparently) getting married, Kuririn and Videl to change their hair, Goku to catch up to Gohan and Gotenks the slackers in power...

... Oh, and I just realized it fits THIS pretty darn well.

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Nex Carnifex wrote:I'm sure you can come up with something, the possibilities are endless when writing fiction :0 I think a cool idea is Goku goes SS4 and Baby responds by becoming Golden Oozaru, and SS4 still isn't enough as Baby continuously absorbs energy from the mind controlled Earthlings. Goku calls upon the power of the Super Saiyan God however, utilizing his Saiyan family, and becomes a Super Saiyan 4 God, with glowing red fur and hair.
That does resemble what really did happen in GT, where the other Saiyans popped in and loaned Super Saiyan 4 Goku their "Saiya power" to finish off Baby. So yeah, that COULD work as a sort of adaptation of that... but it'd also be lame. I'm trying to keep my storytelling fresh by avoiding just recycling solutions to past battles. I'd prefer to work around or avoid using "Super Saiyan God" just as much as I'm avoiding using the Spirit Bomb. For that main general reason, I may be better off just letting GTR remain its own thing, spun off from just the manga and only making small nods towards anything else.
No it wouldn't be lame because a fusion of Super Saiyan 4 and Super Saiyan God would look badass as fuck.

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Post by Chuquita » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:20 pm

2ch took the "Make a separate Spoilers Thread" approach after all.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:21 pm

Can Ssj God's power be enhanced with ssj3?
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Post by Nex Carnifex » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:21 pm

Wait, how does GT work if the Pilaf gang are now little kids :o in GT they were very old...
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:22 pm

Nex Carnifex wrote:Wait, how does GT work if the Pilaf gang are now little kids :o in GT they were very old...
GT takes place in one of the 12 universes. The end.
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Post by NeoKING » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:22 pm

From the way SSG sounds, I don't even count it as a transformation. It's sounds like just a power-up, like the Kaioken.

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Post by omegalucas » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:24 pm

NeoKING wrote:From the way SSG sounds, I don't even count it as a transformation. It's sounds like just a power-up, like the Kaioken.
To me it sounds more like the Elder Namek and Elder Kaioshin's unlock abilities (as in, they're permanent/sorta tappable at will).
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:24 pm

NeoKING wrote:From the way SSG sounds, I don't even count it as a transformation. It's sounds like just a power-up, like the Kaioken.
Hmm...if that's the way it works, I wonder if Goku would be able to go Super Saiyan 3, with his Super Saiyan God powers on top of that, and then take it even further with some Kaio-ken action? That'd be a little too much, but I do wonder.
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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:24 pm

NeoKING wrote:From the way SSG sounds, I don't even count it as a transformation. It's sounds like just a power-up, like the Kaioken.
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Post by worldmonsters » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:25 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:
Nex Carnifex wrote:Wait, how does GT work if the Pilaf gang are now little kids :o in GT they were very old...
GT takes place in one of the 12 universes. The end.
That's...! Huh... that's actually pretty clever :o Another one for Heroes, one for Online, one for the movies (or several)... What?! Suddenly everything's canon!! O__O

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