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by DBZAOTA482 » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:26 pm
omegalucas wrote:DBZAOTA482 wrote:kei17 wrote:The funniest scene was when Gohan gets drunk and goes completely nuts. He wears the Saiyaman costume and asks Mai to shoot him. Incidentally, one of the bullets hit Vedel's leg, and Dende notices she's pregnant while healing her.
I wonder, did Dende spread the word? I really want to know how their parents react.
I'm can totally imagine Chi-chi passing out either because by anger or hapinness (or both

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I reckon both.
Anger because Gohan basically sabotaged his own opportunity of going through college, and happiness because well... she has a grandchild. That, and they may have more entitlement to Mr. Satan's fortune
Goku would be proud, and Mr. Satan would write Gohan off as a bad influence.
fadeddreams5 wrote:DBZGTKOSDH wrote:... Haven't we already gotten these in GT? Goku dies, the DBs go away, and the Namekian DBs most likely won't be used again because of the Evil Dragons.
Goku didn't die in GT. The show sucked him off so much, it was impossible to keep him in the world of the living, so he ascended beyond mortality.
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I'm just about done with the concept of reboots and making shows that were products of their time and impactful "new and sexy" and in line with modern tastes and sensibilities. Let stuff stay in their era and give today's kids their own shit to watch.
I always side eye the people who say "Now my kids/today's kids can experience what I did as a child!" Nigga, who gives a fuck about
your childhood? You're an adult now and it was at least 15 years ago. Let the kids have their own experience instead of picking at a corpse.
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by MajinVegetaSSj6 » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:27 pm
How it's possibile that hte 1st Super Saiyan God who appears on Planet Vegeta was defeated by evil saiyans?? Can you became SSG without being able to transfor in SSj1 ???
It's impossiblt that a bunch of evil saiyans beat a regular Super Saiyan...
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by Chuquita » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:28 pm
So ssjg really could be considered "kami-ken"? :3
I was hoping for at least a new costume, but I like kaio-ken so much that this is still good. X3
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by Nex Carnifex » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:28 pm
worldmonsters wrote:TheMightyOzaru wrote:Nex Carnifex wrote:Wait, how does GT work if the Pilaf gang are now little kids

in GT they were very old...
GT takes place in one of the 12 universes. The end.
That's...! Huh... that's actually pretty clever

Another one for Heroes, one for Online, one for the movies (or several)... What?! Suddenly everything's canon!! O__O
nah cuz I think the other universe are different things all together, if they were just altered version of the mangaverse then why are there only 12 and not infinite?
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by Kaboom » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:28 pm
worldmonsters wrote:That's...! Huh... that's actually pretty clever

Another one for Heroes, one for Online, one for the movies (or several)... What?! Suddenly everything's canon!! O__O
One for Neko Majin and GT Revised, one for Dr. Slump, one for Episode of Bardock, one just for the manga and nothing else, one for the animated and superior version of Trunks' backstory, one for Little Saiyanlings...
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by Gyt Kaliba » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:29 pm
MajinVegetaSSj6 wrote:How it's possibile that hte 1st Super Saiyan God who appears on Planet Vegeta was defeated by evil saiyans?? Can you became SSG without being able to transfor in SSj1 ???
It's impossiblt that a bunch of evil saiyans beat a regular Super Saiyan...
Maybe the form leaves someone incredibly weakened afterwards, to the point that you can't do anything against even weaker foes if you don't take care of the job in time?
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by MagicBox » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:33 pm
Gyt Kaliba wrote:Ooh, just had a revelation too - the 'One More Saiyan' thing from the soundtrack must have been talking about PAN. Which means it could conceivably be considered like...her theme or something. Oh man, I'm loving this.
Pan did have an instrumental theme (along with several variations of it) in GT's background music. It'd be awesome if that "One More Saiyan" piece on the soundtrack makes homage to that, though I doubt it will.
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by radrappy » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:33 pm
People seem pretty gosh derned concerned with the characters' respective strengths. Did that ever really matter in any of the other movies?
How was the actual story, Kei? Was it emotionally satisfying? Were the characters at their best? Will the movie reignite general interest in the franchise as we know it? What would you say the ratio of comedy to drama was? Was it a good film, objectively speaking?
so exciting.
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by MajinVegetaSSj6 » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:34 pm
Maybe the form leaves someone incredibly weakened afterwards, to the point that you can't do anything against even weaker foes if you don't take care of the job in time?
Maybe...but still, was SSG transformation necessary to defeat a bunch of evil Saiyans? i don't get it...
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by Tzigi » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:35 pm
Kaboom wrote:worldmonsters wrote:That's...! Huh... that's actually pretty clever

Another one for Heroes, one for Online, one for the movies (or several)... What?! Suddenly everything's canon!! O__O
One for Neko Majin and GT Revised, one for Dr. Slump, one for Episode of Bardock, one just for the manga and nothing else, one for the animated and superior version of Trunks' backstory, one for Little Saiyanlings...
One with 20 subdivisions for Dragon Ball Multiverse who had this idea in the first place

I wonder what Salagir's reaction to this movie will be...
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by Gyt Kaliba » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:36 pm
MajinVegetaSSj6 wrote:Maybe...but still, was SSG transformation necessary to defeat a bunch of evil Saiyans? i don't get it...
Oh yeah, I'm still pretty iffy on it too, so I get what you mean. I'm just trying to rationalize one way how it could possibly have worked out.
MagicBox wrote:Gyt Kaliba wrote:Ooh, just had a revelation too - the 'One More Saiyan' thing from the soundtrack must have been talking about PAN. Which means it could conceivably be considered like...her theme or something. Oh man, I'm loving this.
Pan did have an instrumental theme (along with several variations of it) in GT's background music. It'd be awesome if that "One More Saiyan" piece on the soundtrack makes homage to that, though I doubt it will.
Really? Were any of those themes ever released on CD?
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by Black_Liger » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:37 pm
MagicBox wrote:Gyt Kaliba wrote:Ooh, just had a revelation too - the 'One More Saiyan' thing from the soundtrack must have been talking about PAN. Which means it could conceivably be considered like...her theme or something. Oh man, I'm loving this.
Pan did have an instrumental theme (along with several variations of it) in GT's background music. It'd be awesome if that "One More Saiyan" piece on the soundtrack makes homage to that, though I doubt it will.
That's what I want to know, does the movie use themes? maybe a main theme for the movie, a theme for goku, Takaki had atleast 1 motif that had atleast one variation (the theme when hatchiyack comes into scene).
There's room for only one snake, and one big boss.
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by fogdark » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:39 pm
MajinVegetaSSj6 wrote:
Maybe...but still, was SSG transformation necessary to defeat a bunch of evil Saiyans? i don't get it...
Well, Kei mentions there needs to be 6 pure hearted Saiyans to bring forth a Super Saiyan God form. He doesn't say anything about they needing to be Super Saiyans. So I imagine back then, 6 normals saiyans with pure hearts got together to do this, in order to make one of them stronger than the evil saiyans. And it's only by chance that the God form they obtained is actually stronger than a regular Super Saiyan.
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by Gyt Kaliba » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:41 pm
fogdark wrote:MajinVegetaSSj6 wrote:
Maybe...but still, was SSG transformation necessary to defeat a bunch of evil Saiyans? i don't get it...
Well, Kei mentions there needs to be 6 pure hearted Saiyans to bring forth a Super Saiyan God form. He doesn't say anything about they needing to be Super Saiyans. So I imagine back then, 6 normals saiyans with pure hearts got together to do this in order to make one of them stronger than the evil saiyans. And it's only by chance that the God form they obtained is actually stronger than a regular Super Saiyan.
Good thinking. If that's the case, then Goku's use of the form could be far, far, far, FAR superior to the original user of the form, since he has more power to begin with for the Super Saiyan God form to work with.
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by worldmonsters » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:43 pm
Kaboom wrote:worldmonsters wrote:That's...! Huh... that's actually pretty clever

Another one for Heroes, one for Online, one for the movies (or several)... What?! Suddenly everything's canon!! O__O
One for Neko Majin and GT Revised, one for Dr. Slump,
one for Episode of Bardock, one just for the manga and nothing else, one for the animated and superior version of Trunks' backstory,
one for Little Saiyanlings...
I love how Episode of Bardock gets his very own universe because it just fits in so badly XD And Little Saiyalings universe ftw!!

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by omegalucas » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:43 pm
fogdark wrote:MajinVegetaSSj6 wrote:
Maybe...but still, was SSG transformation necessary to defeat a bunch of evil Saiyans? i don't get it...
And it's only by chance that the God form they obtained is actually stronger than a regular Super Saiyan.
We don't even know if that time that form was stronger than a regular SSJ.
It could depend on the normal or hidden power of the person who transforms, or even on the six that help them unlocking it.
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by MajinVegetaSSj6 » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:44 pm
Well, Kei mentions there needs to be 6 pure hearted Saiyans to bring forth a Super Saiyan God form. He doesn't say anything about they needing to be Super Saiyans. So I imagine back then, 6 normals saiyans with pure hearts got together to do this in order to make one of them stronger than the evil saiyans. And it's only by chance that the God form they obtained is actually stronger than a regular Super Saiyan.
So fog, you think that SSG power is a sum or moltiplication of the 6 Saiyans powers? Still, if you say SAIYAN God, ok, but we are talking about Super Saiyan God, and if you are not even a regular Super Saiyan, how can you become a Super Saiyan God? So, according to you, Nappa or Raditz with the powers of 6 pure Saiyans can become Super Saiyan God??

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by Saiyan Prince Vegeta » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:47 pm
My phone dies for 3 hours and I'm like 12 pages back! What?!
Well after a lot of catching up I'm really happy with how it sounds.

The main thing I was happy to read is that the Characters seemed in character
Kei was Hero played at a good time in the movie?
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by TheMightyOzaru » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:48 pm
How is Vegeta in this movie anyway? Does he get any time to shine?
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by Chuquita » Tue Mar 12, 2013 1:48 pm
Does ssjg form give Goku any special powers in addition to just making him stronger?