Strength of the humans in Buu Saga?

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Re: Strength of the humans in Buu Saga?

Post by RandomGuy96 » Sat Mar 16, 2013 9:29 pm

With that strength you gave them, they still wouldn't be anywhere close to relevant.
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Re: Strength of the humans in Buu Saga?

Post by hleV » Sun Mar 17, 2013 9:30 am

TheMightyOzaru wrote:
hleV wrote:Not stronger than 50,000, though I'm not sure about Tenshinhan.
Except Krillin was 75,000 on Namek...
Well, shows what I know. Though I don't get how did he end up so strong, if he was like 13,000 after having his potential unlocked by Guru.

Anyway, new number:
Not more than 100,000 though not sure about Tenshinhan.

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Re: Strength of the humans in Buu Saga?

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Sun Mar 17, 2013 1:32 pm

hleV wrote:
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hleV wrote:Not stronger than 50,000, though I'm not sure about Tenshinhan.
Except Krillin was 75,000 on Namek...
Well, shows what I know. Though I don't get how did he end up so strong, if he was like 13,000 after having his potential unlocked by Guru.

Anyway, new number:
Not more than 100,000 though not sure about Tenshinhan.
Krillin is also confirmed to be stronger than Tenshinhan multiple times.... Well I've always believed if you continuously train you will always get stronger. Yeah since Krillin and Ten likely never find any exponential potential increases they don't grow a lot but I don't think it's too farfetched to claim that these guys have surpassed Freeza's second form with 10+ years of training, I have krillin at 2,077,500.
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Re: Strength of the humans in Buu Saga?

Post by Godo » Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:07 am

Zombie wrote:They need to be this strong to even show up at the android arc. They were still semi relevant back there.
Let's go through their relevancy here:

- Yamcha: Being impaled and informing the others about the energy draining of 19 and 20.
- Kuririn: Falling in love with 18 and crushing the remote.
- Tenshinhan: Holding back an unsuspecting Semi-Perfect Cell, who wasn't even scratched afterwards (to add with a technique which amplifies you power greatly, as in not being your true power).

That's how relevant they were. I can only see Tenshinhan having any part in the battle, and to add, we can't really know how much the Kikoho amplified his power, especially since he had to let out all of his power just to push back Semi-Perfect Cell a little.

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Re: Strength of the humans in Buu Saga?

Post by ZombieVito » Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:33 pm

huh? Cell was scratched....

http://view.thespectrum.net/series/drag ... +32&page=5

Guess it all comes to personal opinion, but for me they have to be this strong to even show up when Piccolo said that they don't show up if they couldn't fight. Besides 20 said Yamcha had a lot of energy.

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Re: Strength of the humans in Buu Saga?

Post by Duo » Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:21 pm

There is basically no reliable method to gauge these characters in a meaningful way after the Namek Arc. But heck, do they ever do anything that matters that much in terms of combat capability? Basically all we need to know is that Tenshinhan can cook up some scary shit occasionally and leave it at that.

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Re: Strength of the humans in Buu Saga?

Post by sonikku956 » Mon Mar 18, 2013 8:38 pm

Zombie wrote:huh? Cell was scratched....

http://view.thespectrum.net/series/drag ... +32&page=5

Guess it all comes to personal opinion, but for me they have to be this strong to even show up when Piccolo said that they don't show up if they couldn't fight. Besides 20 said Yamcha had a lot of energy.
But then again, he did say that Krillin had a awful BP compared to the rest.

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Re: Strength of the humans in Buu Saga?

Post by Bussani » Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:32 am

Zombie wrote:huh? Cell was scratched...
To be fair, he's no more "scratched" than Vegeta and Nappa were after Kuririn's ki attack that took out most of the Saibaimen, and the characters outright say that attack didn't hurt them at all. They were just scuffed, really.
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Re: Strength of the humans in Buu Saga?

Post by Eternal Super Saiyan » Wed Mar 20, 2013 8:28 pm

Krillin is also confirmed to be stronger than Tenshinhan multiple times.... Well I've always believed if you continuously train you will always get stronger. Yeah since Krillin and Ten likely never find any exponential potential increases they don't grow a lot but I don't think it's too farfetched to claim that these guys have surpassed Freeza's second form with 10+ years of training, I have Krillin at 2,077,500.
By the Android Saga, I do not believe Krilin to be stronger than Tien. Certainly not in Buu Saga. I know Krillin now has android #18 as his wife... LOL but that does not tell how they both train. Krillin probably slacks off training almost as much as Yamcha does. Let's put this all into perspective here. 8)
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