Broli the Legendary Super Saiyan God

[Insertclevername]

So this threads about Broli coming back and being a cast member?

Hmm...If he's done the same way he was in Toyable's AF, then sure. He is kind of psychopathic, so...that'll be interesting to see how the others interact with him.

[InfernalVegito]

Yes it would be cool if they were able to make him good. That's what I wanted for Radditz, too considering he is Son Goku's brother, I never liked how he was erased from the story so quickly as if he was nothing. But I digress.

[DNA]

So this threads about Broli coming back and being a cast member?

Well, not entirely, that possibility is also being discussed, along with the possible relation between Legendary Super Saiyan and Super Saiyan God. Do they complement each other? Are they opposites?
Also being discussed is the place either or a merger of both would have in a pantheon of the cosmos, since we've long past moved from a hierarchy of deities to a working pantheon.

[supacomboy]

In your opinion, do you think Broli would be able to solicit the aid of six pure-hearted Saiyans to have him achieve SSJ God form, even in a scenario of him joining the protagonists??

[DNA]

In your opinion, do you think Broli would be able to solicit the aid of six pure-hearted Saiyans to have him achieve SSJ God form, even in a scenario of him joining the protagonists??

Broli specifically? No. But maybe if the need arises, the Saiyans would be persuaded to aid him. Also Broli would need to be pure-hearted himself, so he would have to change his ways. He would be the sixth Saiyan, he would need five more.

Don't forget we are discussing a Legendary Super Saiyan, not Broli specifically. If in the future another Legendary Super Saiyan would be born then all this situation could have a more viable reason to happen.

[supacomboy]

In your opinion, do you think Broli would be able to solicit the aid of six pure-hearted Saiyans to have him achieve SSJ God form, even in a scenario of him joining the protagonists??

Broli specifically? No. But maybe if the need arises, the Saiyans would be persuaded to aid him. Also Broli would need to be pure-hearted himself, so he would have to change his ways. He would be the sixth Saiyan, he would need five more.

Don't forget we are discussing a Legendary Super Saiyan, not Broli specifically. If in the future another Legendary Super Saiyan would be born then all this situation could have a more viable reason to happen.

Haha the thought of Broli settling down and having a family on Earth just made me really laugh!!

[Dabooyaka]

I knew it was a matter of time before somebody put the word Broly, and the words Super Saiyan God in one sentence together.
I think we have had enough of Broly, and if there was going to be another Super Saiyan God besides the z senshi, I think it should be somebody new.

[soulnova]

I would love to see the story behind the previous God and Legendary SSJ. Damn, if there was a kickstarter for some OVAS like that....

[SSJ4_Zankuto]

I personally think Legendary Super Saiyan would be the Super Saiyan Devil to Super Saiyan God, wouldn't yer think? Broly (evil saiyan) vs Goku (good saiyan).

[soulnova]

I personally think Legendary Super Saiyan would be the Super Saiyan Devil to Super Saiyan God, wouldn't yer think? Broly (evil saiyan) vs Goku (good saiyan).

Yeah, we were pointing that out too. They were predestined to meet from birth.

[TheMightyOzaru]

If Broly looked as cool and talked as much trash as GoW's Ares, I wouldn't hate him.

I was wondering how long it would take until you'd come here to talk shit about Broli.
Thing is, I don't think anyone here gives a fuck about what you think about Broli.
Furthermore, as I've pointed out at the beggining and end of the first post, this is not what this thread is about.
If that's the kind of argument you want to bring to the discussion, believed there is no space for you here.

Well to be fair he isn't bashing Broly, he is simply stating why he dislikes him. I kinda thought of an idea for Broly. What if Broly was Ssj God's natural opposite? He only appears when the majority of the Saiyan race is pure evil. He has Ssj God's opposite attributes. He has green hair which is the opposite of red on the color wheel. He is really buff and Ssj God is skinny. Maybe Broly is "the Ssj Demon", he does refer to himself as the devil.

[DNA]

I kinda thought of an idea for Broly. What if Broly was Ssj God's natural opposite? He only appears when the majority of the Saiyan race is pure evil. He has Ssj God's opposite attributes. He has green hair which is the opposite of red on the color wheel. He is really buff and Ssj God is skinny. Maybe Broly is "the Ssj Demon", he does refer to himself as the devil.

Do you even read the previous posts before posting yourself or you just post whatever? People were literally discussing that before you.

Either way, since the Legendary Super Saiyan has been said to be the Kami (God) of the Saiyans, that means he is not the devil. Right?
Again, Broli is just one of the Legendary Super Saiyan, there was at least one before him and there is the possibility of another one appearing in the future.

[TheMightyOzaru]

I kinda thought of an idea for Broly. What if Broly was Ssj God's natural opposite? He only appears when the majority of the Saiyan race is pure evil. He has Ssj God's opposite attributes. He has green hair which is the opposite of red on the color wheel. He is really buff and Ssj God is skinny. Maybe Broly is "the Ssj Demon", he does refer to himself as the devil.

Do you even read the previous posts before posting yourself or you just post whatever? People were literally discussing that before you.

Actually no , it kinda just popped into my head while typing this.

[TheMightyOzaru]

I kinda thought of an idea for Broly. What if Broly was Ssj God's natural opposite? He only appears when the majority of the Saiyan race is pure evil. He has Ssj God's opposite attributes. He has green hair which is the opposite of red on the color wheel. He is really buff and Ssj God is skinny. Maybe Broly is "the Ssj Demon", he does refer to himself as the devil.

Do you even read the previous posts before posting yourself or you just post whatever? People were literally discussing that before you.

Either way, since the Legendary Super Saiyan has been said to be the Kami (God) of the Saiyans, that means he is not the devil. Right?
Again, Broli is just one of the Legendary Super Saiyan, there was at least one before him and there is the possibility of another one appearing in the future.

Not exactly, Broly is just called the legendary Ssj out of convenience. It's already been established that Ssj God is a Saiyan form fueled by 6 pure hearts. Broly seems like his natural opposite. He has green hair, is really bulky, and is evil. Sure it's coincidence but it fits together so perfectly. Broly is the Demon King Piccolo of the Saiyan race in a sense.

[VegettoEX]

Not sure if anyone's tossed this out...

But Goku wasn't "pure-hearted" to begin with. Remember that he was a little trouble child until he whacked his head darn good.

I suppose you could make the argument that your "pure"-ness can change over time, and it sorta overwrites whatever value it had before. So, like, you can turn all good and it doesn't matter that you were all bad before. Or, like Vegeta, you can pull the "pure evil" line and I guess that somehow counts as "pure".

[DNA]

True, that is a valid point. Like I said, with time and persuasion, Broli could change for the better.
But TheMightyOzaru, Broli has been said to be the closest aproximation the Saiyans have for a god or at the very least a deity. I don't think that would classify as an entity of pure evil as I really don't see Broli in that way, especially since we are shown beings completely and purely "made" of evil along the franchise. Not saying that your point is not valid, it does seem to fit nicely.

[Kaboom]

Maybe the two concepts can coexist?

The newly-introduced 'Super Saiyan God' is a rare force of good — multiple pure-hearted Saiyans coming together and empowering one of their own to overcome evil.

Broly, the "Legendary" Super Saiyan, however, is the antithesis of that. He's all about inflicting pain, suffering, destruction. He's pretty much evil incarnate with blonde hair, and a self-proclaimed "devil."

I knew I wouldn't be the first to make this comparison. I did it anyway. :P

[DNA]

That's all fine and good but, Broli is still a mortal, a human, and not a deity. so in theory he could change, he could become "pure-hearted" and potentially be "upgraded" to Super Saiyan God. Right?

[soulnova]

Not only that, Kaboom.

The Ssj God failed to stop the Evil Saiyans. All points out his existence was brief.

The Legendary Ssj actually managed to bring destruction and primal fear through the galaxy. Heck, Saichouru knew about the power of the Super Saiyan.

It wouldn't be a surprise that the Saiyans remembered more about the Legendary than "God".

That's all fine and good but, Broli is still a mortal, a human, and not a deity. so in theory he could change, he could become "pure-hearted" and potentially be "upgraded" to Super Saiyan God. Right?

Broli can't turn good with "kind words and care". He's a psychopath. Psychopathy is untreatable. His brain works different making him violent, fearless, cold-hearted and impulsive with lack of empathy and remorse. He was laughing when he took Paragus's eye. Broli wouldn't get cured of that without using magic or using meds to keep it *somewhat* under control by being duped.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychopath ... management

No medications can instill empathy, and psychopaths who undergo traditional talk therapy might become more adept at manipulating others and more likely to commit crime.[95]

Either magic or hit him in the head. It worked with kakarot.

[DNA]

Broli can't turn good with "kind words and care". He's a psychopath. Psychopathy is untreatable. His brain works different making him violent, fearless, cold-hearted and impulsive with lack of empathy and remorse. He was laughing when he took Paragus's eye. Broli wouldn't get cured of that without using magic or using meds to keep it *somewhat* under control by being duped.

I don't really see him as a psychopath, not more than any other Saiyan. You could say the same about Vegeta, who killed Nappa and was quite amused by it.

I still think Broli really hated his father and was sort of power blind. Don't forget that all the glimpses we see are from Paragus perspective, who would always make himself look like the victim. Who's to say it wasn't Paragus that had been conditioning Broli to become power mad and have a hatred towards all Saiyans who tried to execute them both?

To aid this, Broli also hates Vegeta despite not having an actual reason to do so. His father has to have had instilled that hatred in him.