Dragon Ball vs. Dragon Ball Z vs. Dragon Ball GT!

[dbzfan7]

GT will always come first to me. DB comes 2nd and DBZ comes last. There's nothing really interesting in Z because it always focuses on fights. GT has some balance between adventure and fights.

Your kind is rare indeed. Don't take it as an insult as everyone has opinions, but yours is pretty uncommon

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

GT will always come first to me. DB comes 2nd and DBZ comes last. There's nothing really interesting in Z because it always focuses on fights. GT has some balance between adventure and fights.

, DBZ isn't all fighting...

Yes, it does.

GT will always come first to me. DB comes 2nd and DBZ comes last. There's nothing really interesting in Z because it always focuses on fights. GT has some balance between adventure and fights.

Your kind is rare indeed. Don't take it as an insult as everyone has opinions, but yours is pretty uncommon

GT has adventures and SSj4s. That's a lot more fun than 291 episodes combined.

[dbzfan7]

GT has adventures and SSj4s. That's a lot more fun than 291 episodes combined.

Every arc for the most part sucked. Dragonball hunting was lame and a lot of the problems shouldn't have been problems to a guy who is now as strong as his SSJ3 form in base. Most of the Bebi arc was bad until he got to earth, then it got a little better when other characters showed up more. Then we got an awesome form with a lackluster transformation sequence that SSJ3 laughs at. Super 17 completely sucked. I only liked the idea of an android capable of limitless energy and absorption, using 17 was stupid. Shadow dragons sucked except for the last 3. Most of them should have been defeated easily and were jokes. They showed power that was DB level. The idea in concept was the only true good thing. GT also had Goku Time 24/7 making everyone but him worthless. Vegeta was reduced to fusion fodder. The only amazing did it did worthy of the series title is the ending that was actually good. The fights were severely lacking compared to Z. Take it up to the next level my ass commercials.

Someone else probably could say everything wrong with GT and go into detail why its really bad. I end of with this.

[DragonBalllKaiHD]

I never really cared about GT's problems or plot holes. Like I said for third time, I prefer adventure more than fighting. DBZ got popular because of flashy fights and transformations.

GT is still part of the franchise whether you like it or not.

[dbzfan7]

I never really cared about GT's problems or plot holes. Like I said for third time, I prefer adventure more than fighting. DBZ got popular because of flashy fights and transformations.

GT is still part of the franchise whether you like it or not.

I acknowledge it as part of the franchise. I don't consider it canon though due to Toriyama calling it a side story and his minimal involvement.

The problem was that GT was trying to replicate what made the adventure in Dragon Ball so good, but failed miserably.

[kei17]

The problem was that GT was trying to replicate what made the adventure in Dragon Ball so good, but failed miserably.

Agreed. I don't care minor plot holes except for Gohan becoming SSJ, but I dislike GT because it's unoriginal and boring.

[DBZAOTA482]

GT will always come first to me. DB comes 2nd and DBZ comes last. There's nothing really interesting in Z because it always focuses on fights. GT has some balance between adventure and fights.

You best be trollin'.

[MCDaveG]

Hahaha, I actually have friend, who likes GT most and for him, GT is The Dragon Ball. It's because he started to watch the series in TV kinda late at the end of Z and so he continued to GT.
So it's not that rare for me. Also, GT is the only series running officially in Czech republic, so there is probably tons of kids or people, who watched GT, but unless they downloaded it from net, never saw Dragon Ball or Dragon Ball Z.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

(Dragon Ball Kai >) Dragon Ball Z > Dragon Ball > Dragon Ball GT

The problem was that GT was trying to replicate what made the adventure in Dragon Ball so good, but failed miserably.

Agreed. I don't care minor plot holes except for Gohan becoming SSJ, but I dislike GT because it's unoriginal and boring.

That's it. The idea to combine the DB style (adventure & humor) with the DBZ style (fighting & transformations), along with ideas such as the Ultimate Dragon Balls, Super Saiyan 4, making Goku a kid, etc, were great ideas if you ask me, but unfortunately, it got poorly executed. They recycled many things from the DB/Z anime (Dr. Myuu = Dr. Raichi, the Oolong incident = the Zunama incident, etc), the humor wasn't very funny, and it was boring at times (especially the first arc). I liked the fights, and most of the story, but it could be so much better if it had fallen in better hands. I like GT, but the manga is better IMO.

[ABED]

GT has adventures and SSj4s. That's a lot more fun than 291 episodes combined.

Every arc for the most part sucked. Dragonball hunting was lame and a lot of the problems shouldn't have been problems to a guy who is now as strong as his SSJ3 form in base. Most of the Bebi arc was bad until he got to earth, then it got a little better when other characters showed up more. Then we got an awesome form with a lackluster transformation sequence that SSJ3 laughs at. Super 17 completely sucked. I only liked the idea of an android capable of limitless energy and absorption, using 17 was stupid. Shadow dragons sucked except for the last 3. Most of them should have been defeated easily and were jokes. They showed power that was DB level. The idea in concept was the only true good thing. GT also had Goku Time 24/7 making everyone but him worthless. Vegeta was reduced to fusion fodder. The only amazing did it did worthy of the series title is the ending that was actually good. The fights were severely lacking compared to Z. Take it up to the next level my ass commercials.

Someone else probably could say everything wrong with GT and go into detail why its really bad. I end of with this.

Where did you get the idea that Goku was as strong as Super Saiyan 3 in his base form? This is the first I've ever heard of that.

You say "this sucked and that sucked", but there are people who may feel differently. I don't love GT but I did enjoy the hunt for the dragon balls and the humor, and even the Evil Dragons. GT has some good ideas, but poor executions.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Where did you get the idea that Goku was as strong as Super Saiyan 3 in his base form? This is the first I've ever heard of that.

I recently explained in the versus thread.

Goku was haxxed to the death in GT.

• Goku fought equally with Oob (who should be stronger than Pure Boo) in base (thought Goku said that he fought Oob all-out, so he probably used Super Saiyan 3, but we just didn't see it because it wasn't the right time to introduce it in GT, since the series had just begun).
• Goku said that base Rild was stronger than Majin Boo, and then he fought with him evenly in base.
• Goku could easily beat SS Gohan & SS Goten in base.
• Goku could toy with Freeza & Cell in base.

Of course, none of this make any sense, so I just consider them plot-holes and ignore them as actual facts. I personally have GT Goku 2-4 times stronger than Boo arc Goku.

And no, these are not from the dub, but in the original Japanese version.

[DBZAOTA482]

Where did you get the idea that Goku was as strong as Super Saiyan 3 in his base form? This is the first I've ever heard of that.

Base GT Young Goku was able to stand his own against General Rildo, who is stated to be stronger than Majin Boo and given the strongest form of Boo is Boohankiccolo, of whom SSJ3 Z Goku couldn't stand a ghost of a chance against. It implies that Base GT Goku somehow managed to transcend far and beyond SSJ3 Z Goku in a span of 5 years.

[Scott]

I don't hate GT but it has far to many annoyances in it for me to love it, the main problem i had was Goku being a kid again. Ok i wouldn't have minded if it was for 15 or so episodes but not all of them, the only time we would see him as a man again was as Super Saiyan 4 and that made no sense at all, it's just lame and really stupid

[ABED]

Where did you get the idea that Goku was as strong as Super Saiyan 3 in his base form? This is the first I've ever heard of that.

Base GT Young Goku was able to stand his own against General Rildo, who is stated to be stronger than Majin Boo and given the strongest form of Boo is Boohankiccolo, of whom SSJ3 Z Goku couldn't stand a ghost of a chance against. It implies that Base GT Goku somehow managed to transcend far and beyond SSJ3 Z Goku in a span of 5 years.

Or it just implies that the writers weren't great with their logic and fight coreography. How many times in the movies did the Saiyans fight in their base form when they should've started out immediately as at least Super Saiyans? In movie 10, Gohan fights in his base form for a while against BROLY!

[TheMightyOzaru]

GT will always come first to me. DB comes 2nd and DBZ comes last. There's nothing really interesting in Z because it always focuses on fights. GT has some balance between adventure and fights.

, DBZ isn't all fighting...

Yes, it is.

No it's not. There is plenty of character development and story. Yeah there is a lot of fighting but it's not the center focus.

[Hellspawn28]

GT will always come first to me. DB comes 2nd and DBZ comes last. There's nothing really interesting in Z because it always focuses on fights. GT has some balance between adventure and fights.

, DBZ isn't all fighting...

Yes, it does.

There is drama that happens in DBZ as well. I hate it when people say that DBZ is just all fighting and no story. As for GT, it's one of those shows that I dislike more the more I think about it or watch it. I somewhat liked it as a kid, but now I can't stand it. The music is the only thing that I enjoy about GT. Even the animation in GT looked pretty bad since most of the coloring looked bland and lacks the colorful look that the first two DB shows had. Not to mention Cell and Freeza in GT looked terrible compare how they looked in DBZ.

[Saiga]

Where did you get the idea that Goku was as strong as Super Saiyan 3 in his base form? This is the first I've ever heard of that.

Base GT Young Goku was able to stand his own against General Rildo, who is stated to be stronger than Majin Boo and given the strongest form of Boo is Boohankiccolo, of whom SSJ3 Z Goku couldn't stand a ghost of a chance against. It implies that Base GT Goku somehow managed to transcend far and beyond SSJ3 Z Goku in a span of 5 years.

Or it just implies that the writers weren't great with their logic and fight coreography. How many times in the movies did the Saiyans fight in their base form when they should've started out immediately as at least Super Saiyans? In movie 10, Gohan fights in his base form for a while against BROLY!

So what? Even if it's a case of the writers not thinking about things hard enough, base GT Goku is still capable of going toe-to-toe with an opponent stronger than Boo. It doesn't make sense with the manga's logic but that's simply the way things are in GT.

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Anyway, on topic:

Z-era manga > pre-Z-era manga > Dragon Ball Z > Dragon Ball > Evolution > GT.

[Saiyan Prince Vegeta]

There is drama that happens in DBZ as well. I hate it when people say that DBZ is just all fighting and no story. As for GT, it's one of those shows that I dislike more the more I think about it or watch it. I somewhat liked it as a kid, but now I can't stand it. The music is the only thing that I enjoy about GT. Even the animation in GT looked pretty bad since most of the coloring looked bland and lacks the colorful look that the first two DB shows had. Not to mention Cell and Freeza in GT looked terrible compare how they looked in DBZ.

This is basically where I stand on GT too. I actually liked it as a kid, but now I can't stand it, and besides the music SSJ4's design was the only other good part of the series to me. It had potential in some areas, but failed miserably when it came to executing those ideas. If Toriyama was involved, I think it could have been something so much more...

[DBZ Mick]

Manga>all

I do like the Dragonball half better than Dragonball Z (although I'd consider up until Freeza equal to it).

While I like the Artifical Human/Cell-Boo arcs better than GT, I like GT as much as parts of those arcs. I actually like that some of the Evil Dragons are jokes, felt like a combo of DB and DBZ.

I also agree that Red Ribbon Army arc apart from Tao-Pai Pai onwards is a little, how shall we say it disappointing. Same with the Artifical Human/Cell arcs.

Even the animation in GT looked pretty bad since most of the coloring looked bland and lacks the colorful look that the first two DB shows had. Not to mention Cell and Freeza in GT looked terrible compare how they looked in DBZ.

I agree about Cell and Freeza's look but apart from that hugely disagree. The animation is very consistent and very beautiful at times. And it's very colourful.

[JeffJarrett]

GT haters should really stop attacking someone everytime they say they like GT.
This topic was made for people to say which series they like the most.
This is not the place for attacking GT based on your opinion of what it should have been rather than accept it as what it is.
Just accept opinions that are different than yours. GT is popular among the fanbase, just accept this.