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by samuraix123 » Wed Mar 27, 2013 8:26 pm
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What's your favorite saga in the original Dragonball series? Can I say, ''Which Saga was written better?'' I'm really excited about buying the blue season sets so I can finely watch the original. I've grown tired of waiting for Funimation to release the Dragon-boxes. I'll get them when they release them but I'm ready to start the original series and I don't feel like waiting
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Also does the original series have an old style Kung fu movie kinda feel? because when I watch the world tournaments, I get that kinda feel.
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by penguintruth » Wed Mar 27, 2013 8:33 pm
Ugh. I utterly despise the term "saga" to denote a story arc. It's as if nobody knows a thing about narrative structure. Funimation started this crap AND "season" for everything.
Also, everything in the manga falls under "original Dragon Ball".
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by samuraix123 » Wed Mar 27, 2013 8:36 pm
So about answering the question?
The Dragonboxes are like a middle aged woman who still looks good through simply taking good care of her skin and body with maybe a tiny bit of makeup while the Orange Bricks are like a middle aged woman who get's 50 tons of botox, makeup and plastic surgery in order to look younger and as a result looks even worse. ~ ringworm128
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by Makaioshin » Wed Mar 27, 2013 8:50 pm
samuraix123 wrote:Also does the original series have an old style Kung fu movie kinda feel? because when I watch the world tournaments, I get that kinda feel.
The franchise itself has this feeling so yes. I would say that maybe the people who worked on the first series were more aware of DB being that sort of story and put in a lot of fun references to kung fu movies like Yamucha saying a line from
Enter the Dragon and the Golden Harvest opening for the Tenkaichi Budokai episodes.
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by Herms » Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:01 pm
penguintruth wrote:Ugh. I utterly despise the term "saga" to denote a story arc. It's as if nobody knows a thing about narrative structure. Funimation started this crap AND "season" for everything.
Pretty sure "saga" predates the Funi dub.
Anyway, Piccolo/23rd Tenkaichi Budokai is overall my favorite part of the entire franchise, full-stop.
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by B » Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:25 pm
The Red Ribbon arc is the best part of the entire series, ergo, it is also the best part of Goku's childhood years.
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by Attitudefan » Wed Mar 27, 2013 9:35 pm
Hmm... I enjoy the Piccolo Daimao arc, but the animation for that arc is sub-par compared to the rest of the series. I love watching the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai!
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by theoriginalbilis » Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:01 pm
My favorite stretch of the original series is easily the Piccolo Daimao arc up through the 23rd Budokai/Piccolo Jr. arc. The stakes are raised, the art takes a noticeable leap in quality (at least in the manga), Toriyama has found his groove in terms of storytelling, and the serious moments are more balanced with the humor.
I'm glad there are people out there who favor the Red Ribbon Army stuff; I'm glad there are people who can manage to stay awake watching it all... Taopaipai is the highlight of that whole arc.
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by DBZ Mick » Wed Mar 27, 2013 11:03 pm
I'm gonna say the 22nd Budokai, re-reading the manga and that part was just awesome, but I loved all of Dragonball except the Red Ribbon arc to a lesser degree.
It is in his character to be rude and a bit crass. He's a hick, with no formal education. That is Son Goku. That is who he is.
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by Ringworm128 » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:24 am
penguintruth wrote:Ugh. I utterly despise the term "saga" to denote a story arc. It's as if nobody knows a thing about narrative structure. Funimation started this crap AND "season" for everything.
Also, everything in the manga falls under "original Dragon Ball".
Yeah but "saga" just sounds more cool then "arc".
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by Gonstead » Thu Mar 28, 2013 1:31 am
Probably any of the Tournament Arcs.
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by Elton Stryker » Thu Mar 28, 2013 3:32 am
22º Tenkaichi Budokai/Piccolo Daimaoh
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by RandomGuy96 » Thu Mar 28, 2013 4:49 am
For the original Dragon Ball? The Piccolo Daimao arc, by far. In fact it's pretty much the only arc I remember. Things started getting intense, with main characters dying left and right and the world being taken over by demons. Also King Piccolo is, in my opinion, the series' best villain.
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by KaaN10 » Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:21 am
1. Piccolo Daimao
2. 23rd Tenkaichi
3. 22nd Tenkaichi
4. 21st Tenkaichi
5. Uranai Baba
6. Red Ribbon Army
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by Tullece » Thu Mar 28, 2013 2:08 pm
Red Ribbon Army Arc and the 21st Tenka'ichi Budōkai
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by ForestEquilibrium » Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:04 pm
A tie between the 22nd and 23rd Budokais, I was on the edge of my seat for both of the final fights even though I still sort of knew the outcome. There's a good amount of tension, action and strategy that always makes them enthralling. Plus, I like the fact that despite losing the last two, Goku was pretty much required to win the 23rd otherwise the Earth would be screwed, a nice twist on the whole tournament concept.
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by Kid Buu » Thu Mar 28, 2013 8:10 pm
Choosing a favourite saga would be like choosing a favourite child....its not a question I like answering.
But I'll go with the Pilaf arc, since it started it all.
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by DarkPrince_92 » Thu Mar 28, 2013 9:07 pm
Definitely the last one. Won't say saga or arc because that'll become a never ending nerd fight...
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by CaBrPi » Fri Mar 29, 2013 12:05 am
Piccolo-Daimao arc, including the 23rd Tenkaichi Budokai.
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by landoku » Fri Mar 29, 2013 2:08 am
I LOVE the whole aura the the original Dragonball gives. Its my favorite. Love it even more than "Z"! Personally the "world tornament saga" and the "King piccolo saga" are the best.
