Character derailment

[Kid Buu]

Hmm? Trunks and Piccolo were the ones who didn't want Cell complete. Trunks would have easily have taken Bulma's idea to stop Gero. Piccolo in the Trunks arc and in the Android arc are not the same person.

None of them wanted Cell complete except for Vegeta. Piccolo tried to get #17 and #18 out of there when Cell showed up, as did #16. Trunks tried beating up Vegeta to stop it. Tenshinhan nearly sacrificed his own life to do so. Kuririn struggled with destroying #18 entirely to stop it from happening. And like Mischi says, it was pretty much the same thing when they all try to head off Dr. Gero returning to his laboratory. If by you saying that Piccolo isn't the same person means his assimilation of God, then that doesn't apply there, yet he was leading the charge to stop #17 and #18 from being activated.

Hm, so Piccolo wanted Cell not to compete before he fused? Must have slipped my mind. But I thought it was just Goku, Vegeta, & Tien who wante to fight the Androids? I thought Krillin opposed it? Gotta read the android arc again.

I suppose the difference was that Androids technically hadn't done anything bad yet, where as Cell was killing people in his debut.

[Ninja Murasaki]

It's sarcasm. Every time you try to point out how monstrous it is that Bulma made Yamcha stay under the same house as the guy who orchestrated his and his friends' murders, someone always toddles along and says "Vegeta never killed any of them!"

It's really kinda disgusting.

She didn't make Yamcha stay there, she let him. If he didn't like Vegeta living their he could have gone back to his own place. It's her parents' house, and as long as they're good with it, she can bloody well let whoever she wants crash there.

So I don't see what is so disgusting about it.

Also, people are going to say "Vegeta never killed any of them!" every time you imply that he did. You're just going to have to either accept that, or stop implying that.

Yet again, you're white knighting Vegeta and demonizing Yamcha.

Honestly, you seem to be some sort of insane shipping person. I bet you do the same in other anime fandoms. Seriously grow up, for the benefit of the forum.

[DBZ Mick]

He had no choice but to fight whenever he fought back, and it was made known that daddy was going to be coming home

It bascially a fight to the death against ReaCoom. He didn't know when Goku was arriving then and both Kuririn and Vegeta were incapacitated.

[DBZAOTA482]

He had no choice but to fight whenever he fought back, and it was made known that daddy was going to be coming home

It bascially a fight to the death against ReaCoom. He didn't know when Goku was arriving then and both Kuririn and Vegeta were incapacitated.

Regardless, he still had faith that his father would be there momentarily and he had something to work for (revive Piccolo, Yamcha, Tenshinhan, and Chaozu). Like I said he had no choice.

[ABED]

He had no choice but to fight whenever he fought back, and it was made known that daddy was going to be coming home

It bascially a fight to the death against ReaCoom. He didn't know when Goku was arriving then and both Kuririn and Vegeta were incapacitated.

Regardless, he still had faith that his father would be there momentarily and he had something to work for (revive Piccolo, Yamcha, Tenshinhan, and Chaozu). Like I said he had no choice.

I still don't see how that would change things given that Goku would get there, likely after he was killed. he had something to work for with Cell - protecting Earth and his friends and family. One could argue the fact that he had no choice would be an even stronger impetus to finish off Cell.

[DBZAOTA482]

I still don't see how that would change things given that Goku would get there, likely after he was killed. he had something to work for with Cell - protecting Earth and his friends and family. One could argue the fact that he had no choice would be an even stronger impetus to finish off Cell.

Millions of civilians that he doesn't even know isn't enough impetus. It's those who want to fight are required to fight Cell, and regardless of Goku stating that his plan was the only ace in the hole there were still other feasible options.

[ABED]

I still don't see how that would change things given that Goku would get there, likely after he was killed. he had something to work for with Cell - protecting Earth and his friends and family. One could argue the fact that he had no choice would be an even stronger impetus to finish off Cell.

Millions of civilians that he doesn't even know isn't enough impetus. It's those who want to fight are required to fight Cell, and regardless of Goku stating that his plan was the only ace in the hole there were still other feasible options.

Hence why I also wrote "his friends and family". Besides, even if he doesn't know them, Gohan will still defend people. What other options were there to stop Cell?

[DBZAOTA482]

I still don't see how that would change things given that Goku would get there, likely after he was killed. he had something to work for with Cell - protecting Earth and his friends and family. One could argue the fact that he had no choice would be an even stronger impetus to finish off Cell.

Millions of civilians that he doesn't even know isn't enough impetus. It's those who want to fight are required to fight Cell, and regardless of Goku stating that his plan was the only ace in the hole there were still other feasible options.

Hence why I also wrote "his friends and family". Besides, even if he doesn't know them, Gohan will still defend people. What other options were there to stop Cell?

1. Goku snicks up on Cell and hits it on it's black skull while it has Gohan in a corner then they both beat it up, they charge up an attack, and blam, Cell is dead.
2. Vegeta full-nelsons Cell while Goku, Gohan, and Piccolo beat the bio out of it.
3. Genki Dama.
4. Energy-sharing methods.

[Draken]

1. Goku snicks up on Cell and hits it on it's black skull while it has Gohan in a corner then they both beat it up, they charge up an attack, and blam, Cell is dead.
2. Vegeta full-nelsons Cell while Goku, Gohan, and Piccolo beat the bio out of it.
3. Genki Dama.
4. Energy-sharing methods.

1. Too weak to take FPPC
2. Too weak
3. Too slow
4. PIS

No not really.

[Kamiccolo9]

I don't think anyone else has mentioned this, but I really liked Mr. Popo in Dragonball. In Z, he lost that polite, condescendingness that he had when he met Goku.

[DBZAOTA482]

1. Goku snicks up on Cell and hits it on it's black skull while it has Gohan in a corner then they both beat it up, they charge up an attack, and blam, Cell is dead.
2. Vegeta full-nelsons Cell while Goku, Gohan, and Piccolo beat the bio out of it.
3. Genki Dama.
4. Energy-sharing methods.

1. Too weak to take FPPC
2. Too weak
3. Too slow
4. PIS

No not really.

Cell wasn't at Full-Power.

[ABED]

I don't think anyone else has mentioned this, but I really liked Mr. Popo in Dragonball. In Z, he lost that polite, condescendingness that he had when he met Goku.

That happens quite a bit. Characters often start out prickly but then become too nice. I wish Kuririn, Popo and Chaozu had kept some of those early traits.

[DBZAOTA482]

Don't forget Tenshinhan. I miss when he and his boyfriend had personality.

[Draken]

1. Goku snicks up on Cell and hits it on it's black skull while it has Gohan in a corner then they both beat it up, they charge up an attack, and blam, Cell is dead.
2. Vegeta full-nelsons Cell while Goku, Gohan, and Piccolo beat the bio out of it.
3. Genki Dama.
4. Energy-sharing methods.

1. Too weak to take FPPC
2. Too weak
3. Too slow
4. PIS

No not really.

Cell wasn't at Full-Power.

And? It doesn't take long to power up contrary to what the anime shows, Frieza's transformations we know were in moments and not like 3 minutes, and either way Genki Dama = plenty of time to power up, "beat the bio out of it" doesn't cut it when he has regen and can power up, your point isn't really doing anything...

[ABED]

Don't forget Tenshinhan. I miss when he and his boyfriend had personality.

Until such time as Toriyama confirms this, Tenshinhan could just as easily be seen as asexual.

[DBZAOTA482]

Don't forget Tenshinhan. I miss when he and his boyfriend had personality.

Until such time as Toriyama confirms this, Tenshinhan could just as easily be seen as asexual.

Oh please! Choazu is too weak to be an effective training partner, they most of their time alone by the mountainside and even their favorite "foods" are each other. They're partners, alright.....partners in love.

[ABED]

Assuming you're correct, I still don't see how that's funny.

[rereboy]

Assuming you're correct, I still don't see how that's funny.

A muscular and tall three eyed man who lives to train and values honor and a tiny little man (who probably doesn't even reach the other's man waist in height) with pure white skin and that looks like a doll in a relationship having sex and what not. Not funny? It's hilarious. Maybe also freaky, but still hilarious.

[ABED]

That sounds like bad slash fiction (redundant) as opposed to anything official and I can't help but think many find it funny for the more obvious reason that they might be gay.

[dbzfan7]

Anyone who isn't a Saiyan by the end. Makes everyone feel worthless and pointless to be around. Especially the human characters who are reduced to saying how powerful the other are and that's it.