Amuro Ray wrote:This is a weak arguement (I'm trying my best not to be rude here) only because it implies that you have to be near someones strenght to escape from them. Fatbuu is stated to be unable to sense Ki - meaning there are plenty of opportunities the boys could have had to escape - Honestly, we have no idea of what happened in the fight except for the boys lost.
The boys lost, but they weren't destroyed by Fat Boo. They were only beaten up. And it wasn't like they suffered any massive injuries. In the fight between Majin Vegeta and Fat Boo just a few hits from Fat Boo severely hurt Majin Vegeta. Apart from what we could see on Gotenks he seemed to be healthy for the most part. So the fact that Gotenks gets away without serious damage is a testament to his strength in base.
Amuro Ray wrote:I absolutely disagree with everything you post.
Of course you would disagree, because every time you post something you obviously think you can't be wrong and are infallible. And when someone gets annoyed with you then blame them or the community for being so harsh when its you who is instigating all these remarks to yourself with your own attitude and condescension. You are clearly in the wrong and I know that as a fact.
Amuro Ray wrote:It doesn't matter if it's base Vegeta or SSJ2 - we know what the multipliers are - the gap wouldn't change. The quote does show that Goku, who is above Vegeta, is not mentioned in that quote. And Piccolo also thought the Kai's power was incredible - this just simply alludes to Piccolo is comparing everyone elses power to his own.
If Base Gotenks is stronger than SSJ Vegeta the gap would change quite a lot. It would be something like this.
SSJ Vegeta 10
Base Gotenks 11
SSJ Gotenks 550
SSJ2 Vegeta 20
The gap changes immensely depending on the base power level of the individual. As for your Piccolo comment the only time Piccolo mentions Kaioshin's strength he says Kaioshin's much stronger than himself and that is why he didn't fight him. Never does he make a comparison to the rest of the Z Fighters.
Gohan is weaker than Both Goku and Vegeta - that comment proves Kibito is weak. Beyond that, there is no way you can assume the South Kai's PL is any level near Goku's - it's a horribly weak arguement. We don't know how or why Buu aborbed who he did - but I already posted that the Kia's energy isn't compatiable with Buu regardless.
Gohan is weaker than both Goku and Vegeta but it isn't by leaps and bounds. The gap between them all isn't so large that Goku and Vegeta could one shot Kibito. And sorry but the most logical explanation for the reason why Pure Boo absorbed South Kaioshin is because he had trouble with him. For that to happen South Kaioshin would have to be as strong as SSJ3 Goku or higher. Its not inconceivable. The weakest of the Kaioshin, the one that we know, would be able to beat first form Cell without any problems if we go by Piccolo saying the Kaioshin is stronger than him. And that's without the assumption that Piccolo didn't get powerful enough to take on the other forms of Cell, excluding Super Perfect Cell.
Well aware - but why can't assume it's meant in the way I want it too? Isn't that exactly what you are doing?
I'm not saying you can't assume. But in most of your posts you make it sound like your logic is flawless and irrefutable. It isn't and there are plenty of comments in the manga, which he choose to ignore as people have quoted them to you, which imply Evil Boo > Pure Boo. The fact of the matter is Goku says they can't win against Evil Boo unless they fuse or find a way to weaken him further. You can call this a lie if you want but you're just making an assumption on something that isn't refuted. It is more then likely true than a lie. Then we have Goku stating he could beat Pure Boo if he just had a minute to charge up his ki. The facts are straight in front of your eyes.
Evil Boo > SSJ3 Goku
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SSJ3 Goku >= Pure Boo
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Evil Boo > SSJ3 Goku >= Pure Boo
Unless you believe that his "size" did have something to do with Goku being able to beat him. Which is absurd seeing as we know size does not matter in the dragon ball universe. Whatever you believe don't come waltzing into the conversation stating things like "Oh, well there is more evidence to suggest that Pure Boo is stronger." Because that is simply untrue. You just choose to ignore the blindingly obvious quotes and take them as lies or try to come up with your own meaning for the sentence, like the "We did it!" quote Goku makes, just to strength your point. I won't disagree that there are places in the manga that make you scratch your head and think "hold on, I thought this Boo was stronger" like with the absorption quote the Kaioshin makes. But there are just are many other places where the opposite is true. So again, don't come in here stating there is no evidence for one side or the other. There is, you just choose to ignore it. I'm not disputing that maybe the absorption quote by the Kaioshin might mean more than one absorption. But we simply don't know. So it can be used to argue both sides, not just yours.
If Super Boo is 8 times stronger than contained Fat Boo, what´s the difference in power between Super Boo and Pure Boo?
