How come they didn't bring Gohan to fight Kid Buu?

[Kamiccolo9]

“Is that alright? You just might not get your turn…I can say this now, but the truth is that with that fat Boo, I would have been able to defeat him at the time with Super Saiyan 3…However, I wanted the young guys to manage something…For the Earth’s sake too…”

Do you think this is sparing Vegeta's feelings too seeing as Vegeta couldn't even handle Fat Boo? There is just simply no reason for Goku to lie about not being able to beat Evil Boo. Especially with no back-up plan to deal with the problem like when he lied about being able to beat Fat Boo as there were always the kids who could have defeated him.

Going along with this, what possible reason could Goku have for lying to Vegeta about Super Buu? Buu had already absorbed, eaten, or killed nearly every other being on the planet. Goku wouldn't resort to fusion unless he had to, he lives for fair, one-on-one fights. If he was capable of defeating Super Buu by himself, then why didn't he just blow him up after emerging from his body? Why did he berate Vegeta for crushing the Potara if they didn't need it? Vegeta sensed Super Buu's power as well. Why didn't he ever say that Pure Buu was stronger?

[Draken]

Chapter: 501 (DBZ 307), P5.5
Context: Elder Kaioshin warning Goku about recklessly going to rescue Gohan from Gotenks-absorbed Boo
Elder Kaioshin: “I hate to say it, but I don’t think you could win against this current Majin Boo even if the two of you went at him together…”

Hi thanks for helping our argument right here :3. So we all know that Buuhan > Buutenks. Right here we have confirmation that Goku < Buutenks even with Gohan's help. Goku >= Pure Buu. So we have, at the best for your case, Buuhan > Buutenks > Goku >= Pure Buu > Gohan.

Also, you guys are reaching as hell. This is a fictional piece of work written by an author who admits over and over he's writing this shit as he goes on and does not think nearly as much about the deepness of the plot. For you guys to have to work out such twisted and elaborate stories on how Goku has been lying all this time, even though it's NEVER stated and NEVER implied, is reaching beyond belief.

[dprez]

Myself, the only reason to why I believe that Pure Buu is weaker than Super Buu is the line "He has shrunk, good".
It's a shonen manga, and an uncomplicated one as far as power goes, as well as fights.
This and no contradiction as to how a Ssj3 can take him down in full power, as well as Fat Buu being able to be defeated by a Ssj3' and how Goku and Vegeta had to fuse to have a chance against Super Buu (as well as the line after they defused "we can't take him on like this") is pretty clear to me.
All of these thoughts were naturally interpreted as such in the manga, with my young brain (at that time), of which the manga was written for, seeing these as such.
Jumping back and forth between the deeper interpretations of quotes, single panels thrown together, this and that won't make good. The story wasn't written like that to have to be picked apart to make sense. It's written for young boys.
If Goku is confident he can beat someone, he has the power to beat the guy. If he isn't, he is outclassed.
Shonen, guys.
That's all.

Yeah, I don't agree with that.

Really, because I agree 100% with it, one of the best I've seen in this debate.

I notice that people who debate who will sometimes simply explain to you what is happening in the manga. Most of us can simply go grab it, read Herms translations and see for ourselves what is going on. The Boo saga is funny, and all over the place. But when it comes to the power of the Boo's it seams like it's explained rather well. Enough for me to gauge how strong each Boo is, and all the good guys who fight him. Now I know their are, grey areas... but still the good guys and Boo's actions let us know how strong he is each time he changes.

Now what Godo said about this being a simple comic for young boys must be taken into account in theses instances when one side of the debate is forced to delve deep into things. Things that never had a whole lot of thought put behind them in the first place, at least not to the level some of us put into them. It's to the point and straightforward. It's honest.

You know the quotes, the panels, everything we all should know if we are here debating. To me, I find it extremely evident that the original-fusion-less "Pure" Boo is weaker than the "Evil" Boo that scared everybody except Gohan and Ssj3 Gotenks.

[Kamiccolo9]

But your assuming that Goku was never could beat Superbuu - we are assuming the opposite. He's stronger than Superbuu and stronger than Purebuu

Chapter: 501 (DBZ 307), P5.5
Context: Elder Kaioshin warning Goku about recklessly going to rescue Gohan from Gotenks-absorbed Boo
Elder Kaioshin: “I hate to say it, but I don’t think you could win against this current Majin Boo even if the two of you went at him together…”

Notice the focus is on Goku, not Gohan.
The focus is on Goku because he is talking to Goku.

Chapter: 506 (DBZ 312), P8.1
Context: Goku points out that if he and Vegeta aren’t merged, Vegeta will have to return to the afterlife
Vegeta: “Hmph…That’s better than being merged with you…Anyway, there shouldn’t be any need for us to merge anymore, right?”
Goku: “We can’t know that! There’s [no] guarantee that we’ll be able to successfully rescue everyone who got absorbed from here and return Boo to the very first one of all…!”
Note: when Goku finds the good Boo later, he calls him “the very first one of all”, so apparently that’s the form of Boo he means here too.

Notice Goku's motive is to preserve Vegeta in this plane of existance.
So you're saying that Goku's main goal is to keep Vegeta alive? When he know that he can bring Vegeta back whenever he wants when he revives the other Earthlings with the Dragonballs? Somehow I doubt that. Later on, he lets Vegeta keep fighting Pure Buu, who by now is known to be a SSJ3 level fighter. Where did this concern go?

Chapter: 506 (DBZ 312), P12.4-5
Context: after Goku and Vegeta revert Boo back to regular evil Boo
Goku: “Hehhe~~eh! With this, Boo’s power should have fallen significantly! We’re almost there! See, see: the size of his ki is completely different than before!”
Vegeta: “Alright! Let’s blast out of here and escape!”
Goku: “Wait! Even though Boo has returned to normal a whole lot, we’re still simply no match for his strength! If we go outside like this, we’ll definitely be done in…!”

He is the line everyone is fixated on, but is it because of their size they can't defeat Buu?
If you would have paid attention to the last couple of pages of the thread, then you would know that this has been discussed extensively.

Chapter: 507 (DBZ 313), P4.2-4, P6.3-6
Context: as Goku and Vegeta are attacked by evil Boo
Goku: “Alrii—iight! Come at me if you’re gonna. I’ll open up a huge hole inside your body! *Boo smiles* Wh-what are you smiling about?...Do you think I can’t open one?”
Boo: “It’s no use.”
Goku: “Don’t underestimate me.”
*Goku blasts, not much happens*
Goku: “…”
Vegeta: “…It di-didn’t have any effect…”
Boo: “It stung a little here *points at head*, that’s all. You guys are now far, far smaller than fleas.”Goku: “…So we’ve got no choice but to defeat you and then search for an exit somewhere.”
Boo: “No, you can’t defeat me. Not the way you guys are now…You’re gonna die, not me…”

Buu's quote does imply such. At least when they were fused, they were strong enough to fight back, even as candy.
No one's arguing that Vegito couldn't beat Buu. Not sure why you brought this up.

Chapter: 510 (DBZ 316), P12.4-6
Context: after Goku fights pure Boo for a bit
Vegeta: “…Heh…You never intended to switch out, even from the beginning. Don’t spout such transparent lies…You knew…That I’d be killed at once.”
Goku: “Huh!? N-no, that’s not it…”
Vegeta: “Hmph…Don’t try sparing my feelings…The truth is you were right [that I’d be killed]. That Boo is stronger than I imagined…And so are you, Kakarot…”

Here we see Goku has always considered Vegeta's pride, in in light that Buu is leagues stronger.
Stonger than he was when he first appeared. Still weaker than Goku. Again, no one is arguing against that.

Chapter: 510 (DBZ 316), P8.2
Context: as Goku fights pure Boo
Vegeta: “Kakarot…You’re incredible…I am simply no match for that Majin Boo…You’re the only one capable of fighting him…”

Implies that Goku is stronger than the others.
Well yeah. Everyone aside from Goku, Vegeta, Dende, Mr. Satan, and the Kaioshins is dead.

[Amuro Ray]

So we have, at the best for your case, Buuhan > Buutenks > Goku >= Pure Buu > Gohan.

Also, you guys are reaching as hell. This is a fictional piece of work written by an author who admits over and over he's writing this shit as he goes on and does not think nearly as much about the deepness of the plot. For you guys to have to work out such twisted and elaborate stories on how Goku has been lying all this time, even though it's NEVER stated and NEVER implied, is reaching beyond belief.

I never debated this, in fact I think that measure is absolute.

We also have the author who outright stated that he doesn't think that Gohan was fit to be the lead character, and we have an Anime based off this Manga that assumes that Goku is outright stronger than every other character. Keep fixating on one line and ignoring all other implications just because it doesn't fit your narrative. This question has been aswered long ago.

[Amuro Ray]

Myself, the only reason to why I believe that Pure Buu is weaker than Super Buu is the line "He has shrunk, good".
It's a shonen manga, and an uncomplicated one as far as power goes, as well as fights.
This and no contradiction as to how a Ssj3 can take him down in full power, as well as Fat Buu being able to be defeated by a Ssj3' and how Goku and Vegeta had to fuse to have a chance against Super Buu (as well as the line after they defused "we can't take him on like this") is pretty clear to me.
All of these thoughts were naturally interpreted as such in the manga, with my young brain (at that time), of which the manga was written for, seeing these as such.
Jumping back and forth between the deeper interpretations of quotes, single panels thrown together, this and that won't make good. The story wasn't written like that to have to be picked apart to make sense. It's written for young boys.
If Goku is confident he can beat someone, he has the power to beat the guy. If he isn't, he is outclassed.
Shonen, guys.
That's all.

Yeah, I don't agree with that.

Really, because I agree 100% with it, one of the best I've seen in this debate.

I notice that people who debate who will sometimes simply explain to you what is happening in the manga. Most of us can simply go grab it, read Herms translations and see for ourselves what is going on. The Boo saga is funny, and all over the place. But when it comes to the power of the Boo's it seams like it's explained rather well. Enough for me to gauge how strong each Boo is, and all the good guys who fight him. Now I know their are, grey areas... but still the good guys and Boo's actions let us know how strong he is each time he changes.

Now what Godo said about this being a simple comic for young boys must be taken into account in theses instances when one side of the debate is forced to delve deep into things. Things that never had a whole lot of thought put behind them in the first place, at least not to the level some of us put into them. It's to the point and straightforward. It's honest.

You know the quotes, the panels, everything we all should know if we are here debating. To me, I find it extremely evident that the original-fusion-less "Pure" Boo is weaker than the "Evil" Boo that scared everybody except Gohan and Ssj3 Gotenks.

I'm sorry that your reading comprehension isn't on par with mine? I don't know what else you want me to say here.

[Draken]

So we have, at the best for your case, Buuhan > Buutenks > Goku >= Pure Buu > Gohan.

Also, you guys are reaching as hell. This is a fictional piece of work written by an author who admits over and over he's writing this shit as he goes on and does not think nearly as much about the deepness of the plot. For you guys to have to work out such twisted and elaborate stories on how Goku has been lying all this time, even though it's NEVER stated and NEVER implied, is reaching beyond belief.

I never debated this, in fact I think that measure is absolute.

We also have the author who outright stated that he doesn't think that Gohan was fit to be the lead character, and we have an Anime based off this Manga that assumes that Goku is outright stronger than every other character. Keep fixating on one line and ignoring all other implications just because it doesn't fit your narrative. This question has been aswered long ago.

Yea, so he made Gohan stronger than Goku to take over Goku's spot as the lead, but since it wasn't happening he made the end character weaker so Goku could take him and move Gohan out of the spotlight. This question has been "aswered" long ago.

[Hitiro]

Chapter: 510 (DBZ 316), P8.2
Context: as Goku fights pure Boo
Vegeta: “Kakarot…You’re incredible…I am simply no match for that Majin Boo…You’re the only one capable of fighting him…”

Implies that Goku is stronger than the others.

At the time the other capable fighters were dead. There was only Vegeta and Goku left. And out of those two Goku was the only one capable of fighting him. Gohan and the boys couldn't do anything if they were dead. Now can they? This is what Vegeta meant when he said "You're the only one capable of fighting him..." It is simply because Goku is the only fighter left who is capable of fighting Pure Boo. Not that there weren't any others.

[dprez]

Keep fixating on one line and ignoring all other implications just because it doesn't fit your narrative. This question has been aswered long ago.

It seams to me like you are the one fixating one a few lines and ignoring all other implications.

What Akira Toriyama said about Gohan is poor evidence, and so is the "Toei-Goku-is-God" anime.

I'm sorry that you're reading comprehension isn't on par with mine? I don't know what else you want me to say here.

Really? My reading comprehension. Interpretations are one thing, but seriously...

[Draken]

By the way, anyone mind explaining to me what one line I am focusing on? I used a brand new line he himself brought into the debate, I think Amuro is getting a bit desperate here

[Amuro Ray]

Chapter: 510 (DBZ 316), P8.2
Context: as Goku fights pure Boo
Vegeta: “Kakarot…You’re incredible…I am simply no match for that Majin Boo…You’re the only one capable of fighting him…”

Implies that Goku is stronger than the others.

At the time the other capable fighters were dead. There was only Vegeta and Goku left. And out of those two Goku was the only one capable of fighting him. Gohan and the boys couldn't do anything if they were dead. Now can they? This is what Vegeta meant when he said "You're the only one capable of fighting him..." It is simply because Goku is the only fighter left who is capable of fighting Pure Boo. Not that there weren't any others.

Vegeta was dead too - and if you die while your dead (yeah...confusing right?) you cease to exist. Even when the opportunity arose, no one but Goku (not even the Kais) suggested bringing the boys to fight.

[Kamiccolo9]

They still have to be processed by Enma first, though. And you may not have noticed this, but when Goku was at his office before, there was a pretty big line. And in between the time when Goku was there, and the fight with Pure Buu, practically all of the population of Earth was killed. Gohan and the others were waiting in line

[Draken]

Right, notice how they didn't bring Vegeta back to life right away to help out. He waited for quite awhile to get his turn and have Baba bring him. Also, Goku was busy fighting and Vegeta was getting his ass raped, Kibitoshin couldn't I'm the boys there and Goku couldn't IT the boys there. Baba's a pussy and is probably limited to the Earth anyways.

[Amuro Ray]

So I think the safe answer is - if the boys were as powerful as you assumed them to be, that would have been the first plan.

[Kamiccolo9]

So I think the safe answer is - if the boys were as powerful as you assumed them to be, that would have been the first plan.

All of these quotes are from Herms' strength checker. The bolded portions are mine. It's pretty obvious that Goku is weaker than both Gotenks and Gohan.

For Gohan:

Note that these two are from before his powerup from the Old Kaioshin is even finished.
Chapter: 488 (DBZ 294), P4.3
Context: after Gohan gets mad and unintentionally releases his power
Gohan: “Wh-what the…!? Is-is this seething power…mine…!?”

Chapter: 488 (DBZ 294), P4.9, P5.1-2
Context: after Gohan’s unintentional display of power
Goku: “…Am…amazin’…So he really wasn’t just some regular dirty old geezer?...*talking to Kaioshin* ‘Do-dormant ability’…That’s a person’s true power, that they have hidden all along…Right?”
Kaioshin: “Ye-yeah…I-I think so…”
Goku: “Mu-must be…Man, Go-Gohan…Just how the heck much power is he hidin'?...”

These are from afterwards
Chapter: 496 (DBZ 302), P4.1-2
Gohan: “Ho-how can I turn into this mightiest of warriors!?”
Elder Kaioshin: “You transform into that Super whatever-it-is a lot, right? You’ll be fine if you just get the gist of that, and throw in a kiai.”
Gohan: “The gist of Super Saiyan…I-I got it…!”

Chapter: 496 (DBZ 302), P7.2-3
Context: after Gohan transforms into the ‘mightiest of warriors’
Goku: “It re-really is incredible…It’s super-duper…! Absolutely unbelievable…Your appearance has hardly changed…And you ain’t even a Super Saiyan…Yet you’ve been taken to su-such an extreme…”
Elder Kaioshin: “Hmph, transforming isn’t good. That Super whatever-its-called is the wrong way [of doing things]…”

Chapter: 497 (DBZ 303), P1.5
Context: as Gohan approaches Boo and co.
Piccolo: “It’s a str-strong ki…! I can’t tell who it is…Is it some new enemy…!?”
Note that Piccolo has felt Super Saiyan 3 before, so at the very least, Gohan is stronger than the SSJ3 Goku that fought against Fat Buu.

Chapter: 498 (DBZ 304), P2.3-4
Boo: “Far, far, waa~~aay far away, I felt a strong power…I won’t allow anyone to have a power stronger than mine…”
Super Buu remembers his time as Fat Buu, and has also felt SSJ3 Goku's power. So he is also stronger than SSJ3 Goku was against Fat Buu.

Chapter: 501 (DBZ 307), P5.5
Context: Elder Kaioshin warning Goku about recklessly going to rescue Gohan from Gotenks-absorbed Boo
Elder Kaioshin: “I hate to say it, but I don’t think you could win against this current Majin Boo even if the two of you went at him together…”
If Goku was stronger than Super Buu, then shouldn't he and Gohan (who was also stronger than Super Buu) have been able to manage something? You treat Buu's fusions as additive, so if Goku was stronger than Gohan, who was a good deal stronger than Super Buu, who was roughly even to SSJ3 Gotenks, then he should have been at least able to put up a fight against Buutenks. Instead, he opts for a PERMANENT FUSION WITH HIS SON.

Chapter: 502 (DBZ 308), P10.4-5
Context: after Gotenks-absorbed Boo's time limit runs out and Gotenks inside him turns back into Goten and Trunks
Goku: “Your power’s fallen a whole lot. Cheh…I’m a little disappointed. This way, Gohan will be able to beat you even on his own…”
Note, he says Gohan, not himself.

Now for Gotenks:

Chapter: 472 (DBZ 278), P9.4
Context: after explaining that Fusion lasts 30 minutes
Goku: “With these two, if they just manage to perform Fusion successfully, I think they’ll definitely be able to defeat [Boo] within 30 minutes. Fusion is just that extreme.”

Chapter: 489 (DBZ 295), P3.5
Context: Trunks doesn’t like the idea of fighting Boo as a Super Saiyan 3 from the start
Trunks: “I think…that we’ve already progressed so much that even in a regular state Fusion, we’ll be about equal with Majin Boo...”
They don't know about Super Buu's strength yet, but he believes that Gotenks has surpassed Fat Buu in base.

hapter: 489 (DBZ 295), P11.5
Context: seeing Gotenks after he’d trained in the Room of Spirit and Time
Piccolo: “He-he really is different…! He really has greatly powered up…! Th-this just might…!”
Still referring to his base form, indicating that in base he's on the same level as Fat Buu.

Chapter: 490 (DBZ 296), P12.7
Context: after Gotenks fights Boo a bit, and head-butts him
Piccolo: “He…he just might…possibly be able to de-defeat him…!”

Chapter: 491 (DBZ 297), P3.1
Context: as the Super Ghost Kamikaze Attack seems to finish Boo off
Piccolo: “It’s an inc…incredible fight, but something about it is really stupid…!”

Chapter: 492 (DBZ 298), P3.9
Piccolo: “You did well, you truly did well! Quite frankly I didn’t think you’d be able to do so much.”

Even in SSJ1, he's still managing to put up a fight against Super Buu. Not beat him, but he's not getting pulverized either.

Chapter: 493 (DBZ 299), P12.2-4
Kaioshin: “In-incredible…S-so this is Fusion?...”
Goku: “N-no…That’s Fusion, no doubt about it, but…Thi-this is Super Saiyan 3…! Un-unbelievable…Those rotten little brats…They al-already became Super Saiyan 3, and that took me years to finally manage it…Am-amazin’…haha…amazin’…!”
Note: So it seems that Goku never planned on Gotenks reaching Super Saiyan 3, but still thought he’d be able to defeat Boo (or at least that it was worth a shot).

Chapter: 495 (DBZ 301), P6.1-3, P7.1-3
Context: after Gotenks blasts Boo with the Rapid-Fire Die-Die Missiles and Piccolo stops him
Gotenks: “Well, whatever. I already did quite a lot, after all. He should be pretty weakened.”
*Boo comes out*
Gotenks: “…He ain’t weakened…This really pisses me off!”
Piccolo: “N-no…He is weakened…I don’t know about physically, but he’s weakened a little mentally…! Th-this is the first time…that he’s fought someone strong like you…He’s feeling flustered by someone whose strength is at least on par with his own…”
Gotenks: “Dehhehheh! So in other words, Majin Boo’s freaked out, huh!? That’s right! My strength ain’t half-assed! I’m the best in the universe!”
Piccolo: “Don’t let your guard down! He’ll be coming at you frantically now…!”
Gotenks: “Dahhahhah, that’s no problem, no problem at all! That’s just what I was hoping for!”

"At least on par with his own." Indicating that SSJ3 Gotenks is at least on Super Buu's level, and may in fact be stronger. This is the same Super Buu that Goku said would kill him and Vegeta.

Now for Goku

Chapter: 501 (DBZ 307), P5.5
Context: Elder Kaioshin warning Goku about recklessly going to rescue Gohan from Gotenks-absorbed Boo
Elder Kaioshin: “I hate to say it, but I don’t think you could win against this current Majin Boo even if the two of you went at him together…”

Chapter: 506 (DBZ 312), P8.1
Context: Goku points out that if he and Vegeta aren’t merged, Vegeta will have to return to the afterlife
Vegeta: “Hmph…That’s better than being merged with you…Anyway, there shouldn’t be any need for us to merge anymore, right?”
Goku: “We can’t know that! There’s [no] guarantee that we’ll be able to successfully rescue everyone who got absorbed from here and return Boo to the very first one of all…!”
Note: when Goku finds the good Boo later, he calls him “the very first one of all”, so apparently that’s the form of Boo he means here too.

Goku is still saying that they'll be needing fusion against Super Buu.

Chapter: 506 (DBZ 312), P12.4-5
Context: after Goku and Vegeta revert Boo back to regular evil Boo
Goku: “Hehhe~~eh! With this, Boo’s power should have fallen significantly! We’re almost there! See, see: the size of his ki is completely different than before!”
Vegeta: “Alright! Let’s blast out of here and escape!”
Goku: “Wait! Even though Boo has returned to normal a whole lot, we’re still simply no match for his strength! If we go outside like this, we’ll definitely be done in…!”

Yeah. And here is this. This quote by itself should have ended this debate a long time ago, but you continue to try to explain it away, or just ignore it.

Chapter: 506 (DBZ 312), P13.1
Context: still talking about how they’re no match for Boo
Goku: “…But there is one way we can win!”
Vegeta: “You want to say Fusion, right? Well who cares about that?!”
Goku: “Huh? You know about it?”
Vegeta: “I saw it from the afterlife…You’ve got to be joking! You think I’d perform those ugly poses…?! Anyway, I thought I told you that I’m not going to merge with you a second time.”

"One way we could win. Yep.

Note that all three knew how strong Super Buu was. Gotenks and Gohan fought him. Goku said that he'd be killed. Goku was trying to get Vegeta to fuse with him. The same Goku who is nearly obsessed with having fair, one-on-one fights. You keep bashing other peoples' reading and literary skills, but maybe you should take a step back and work on your own?

[Amuro Ray]

What?
Chapter: 497 (DBZ 303), P1.5
Context: as Gohan approaches Boo and co.
Piccolo: “It’s a str-strong ki…! I can’t tell who it is…Is it some new enemy…!?”
Note that Piccolo has felt Super Saiyan 3 before, so at the very least, Gohan is stronger than the SSJ3 Goku that fought against Fat Buu.

^ What does that even mean? How does Piccolo sensing Goku's power mean Gohan is stronger?

Chapter: 498 (DBZ 304), P2.3-4
Boo: “Far, far, waa~~aay far away, I felt a strong power…I won’t allow anyone to have a power stronger than mine…”
Super Buu remembers his time as Fat Buu, and has also felt SSJ3 Goku's power. So he is also stronger than SSJ3 Goku was against Fat Buu.

I feel like you're reaching, but I'll allow this one to be open for your interpretation. He sensed Gohan's power before he "powered up" to now, and we know Gohan wasn't near Goku's power before the buff. This just tells us what we already know - Gohan is strong.

Chapter: 498 (DBZ 304), P2.3-4
Boo: “Far, far, waa~~aay far away, I felt a strong power…I won’t allow anyone to have a power stronger than mine…”
Super Buu remembers his time as Fat Buu, and has also felt SSJ3 Goku's power. So he is also stronger than SSJ3 Goku was against Fat Buu.

Do you actually read the stuff you post - seriously? I refuse to requote all of this, but I will simply answer your questions from what I read:
Gotenks believed in base form he could take fat buu - false. Gotenks believes baseform would be enough against Superbuu - false. Gotenks believes he's as strong as Gohan - false. (if anything, they are implied to be enough close in power)

Goku makes one comment about how he and Vegeta can't beat Buu - we can assume this is false because Later Goku is seen refusing to do Fusion (When even the Kai's believe it's recommended) and Goku Soloing Buu. We also see Kibito foreshawdowing towards what is the most powerful form of Buu - not held back by Dai Kaioshinns heart.

This is how the story plays out in the Manga and Anime - this is how the story is supposed to be.

[Kamiccolo9]

What?
Chapter: 497 (DBZ 303), P1.5
Context: as Gohan approaches Boo and co.
Piccolo: “It’s a str-strong ki…! I can’t tell who it is…Is it some new enemy…!?”
Note that Piccolo has felt Super Saiyan 3 before, so at the very least, Gohan is stronger than the SSJ3 Goku that fought against Fat Buu.

^ What does that even mean? How does Piccolo sensing Goku's power mean Gohan is stronger?

Chapter: 498 (DBZ 304), P2.3-4
Boo: “Far, far, waa~~aay far away, I felt a strong power…I won’t allow anyone to have a power stronger than mine…”
Super Buu remembers his time as Fat Buu, and has also felt SSJ3 Goku's power. So he is also stronger than SSJ3 Goku was against Fat Buu.

I feel like you're reaching, but I'll allow this one to be open for your interpretation. He sensed Gohan's power before he "powered up" to now, and we know Gohan wasn't near Goku's power before the buff. This just tells us what we already know - Gohan is strong.

Chapter: 498 (DBZ 304), P2.3-4
Boo: “Far, far, waa~~aay far away, I felt a strong power…I won’t allow anyone to have a power stronger than mine…”
Super Buu remembers his time as Fat Buu, and has also felt SSJ3 Goku's power. So he is also stronger than SSJ3 Goku was against Fat Buu.

Do you actually read the stuff you post - seriously? I refuse to requote all of this, but I will simply answer your questions from what I read:
Gotenks believed in base form he could take fat buu - false. Gotenks believes baseform would be enough against Superbuu - false. Gotenks believes he's as strong as Gohan - false. (if anything, they are implied to be enough close in power)

Goku makes one comment about how he and Vegeta can't beat Buu - we can assume this is false because Later Goku is seen refusing to do Fusion (When even the Kai's believe it's recommended) and Goku Soloing Buu. We also see Kibito foreshawdowing towards what is the most powerful form of Buu - not held back by Dai Kaioshinns heart.

This is how the story plays out in the Manga and Anime - this is how the story is supposed to be.

We see Goku refusing to do a fusion against Pure Buu, you know, the one he said that he could take without it. Gotenks was not the only won who thought he could beat Super Buu; Goku and Piccolo also did. If not for Buu's hax regeration, Gotenks would have beaten Super Buu. Again, the Buu that Goku said would kill him.

Piccolo has just been witnessing a fight between two SSJ3 tier opponents, and has sensed another. Why would he even bother specifying that a strong ki was approaching, given the context of what was going on, if Gohan wasn't stronger?

And even with these few quotes you have "refuted," you left the majority of them unanswered.

Honestly, at this point, I can't tell if you actually believe what you are saying, or if you are just trolling. Ever since I've seen you on these forums, you have been spouting the same Pure Buu>Super Buu nonsense, without offering any concrete evidence to support your claim. May I offer a suggestion? Try to venture outside this particular topic. Maybe then you'll see that the people here generally know what they are talking about, and are willing to have civilized discussions about it.

[Kamiccolo9]

It may not be my place to say this, but is there really any point to this thread anymore? No new evidence is being introduced, all the "discussion" is circular arguments between two sides who are too stubborn to budge from their interpretation. We're just going over the same thing over and over and over again.

[Hitiro]

So I think the safe answer is - if the boys were as powerful as you assumed them to be, that would have been the first plan.

I don't think you're understanding that Akira Toriyama himself decided that Gohan or the boys aren't suited for the role as the main character to finish the story. What he said was:

Akira Toriyama: I intended to put Gohan into the leading role. It didn’t work out. I felt that compared to Goku, he was ultimately not suited for the part.

Its out-of-universe, I know, but the fact is Akira Toriyama could have made Gohan a billion times stronger than Goku and Akira Toriyama still wouldn't have used him to finish the story because he didn't feel that anybody but Goku should be ending the story. The safe answer is - It was just ultimately a stupid decision not to make a better reason for two of the most powerful characters being unable to come and aid Goku. I'll refer you to a quote from earlier:

Chapter: 501 (DBZ 307), P5.5
Context: Elder Kaioshin warning Goku about recklessly going to rescue Gohan from Gotenks-absorbed Boo
Elder Kaioshin: “I hate to say it, but I don’t think you could win against this current Majin Boo even if the two of you went at him together…”

The Elder Kaioshin states clearly that he doesn't think they could win even if both Goku and Gohan went against Bootenks. But Goku is more than a match for Pure Boo by himself, and for him and two other characters who are powerful enough to beat Evil Boo would mean a gankfest against Pure Boo. There is no way Pure Boo would be able to take all 3 of them on at the same time, or even 2 of them at the same time. The fact of the matter is its just plain bad story telling to leave two very powerful characters out of the battle when they could have offered a lot of help. It was stupid of Vegeta to assume that a Genki Dama would be formed before Pure Boo ever notices. He should have brought the boys even if we assume that they were weaker than Pure Boo because they would still put up a better fight than Fat Boo and Vegeta. Unless you're going to tell me that Gohan and Gotenks couldn't beat Fat Boo? In which case I really don't know how you're forming your opinions, lol.

[Bussani]

The only people who are disagreeing are those who don't want to admit their wrong, or never had a lesson literary devices.

I'm sorry that your reading comprehension isn't on par with mine? I don't know what else you want me to say here.

Just when I thought you were starting to discuss things in a reasonable way, you go right back to this. Totally disappointing.