Question about Cell
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Question about Cell
I'm a bit confused about the attacks Cell can use. For example on both the Dragon Ball wiki and the Dragon Ball Encyclopedia wiki separate the techniques Cell can use by form, although they state in his Imperfect form that he "has the power of his genetic materials at the time their DNA has been collected". I can understand that some techniques can only be used in his perfect form, such as birthing Cell Juniors or the Perfect Barrier technique. But to me it seems like he can use techniques like Death Beam, Super Kamehameha (which merely requires more ki to make it stronger) and his self-destruct device in any form. Also various guide books released never separate Cell's abilities by form or seem state that he requires to be in a certain form to use an attack. Toriyama also stated that Cell was never meant to transform as well.
I'm hoping you guys might be able to help me out on this one.
I'm hoping you guys might be able to help me out on this one.
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As far as I know, you're right on the money. All of Cell's stolen techniques come from his...well, his cells, and he had those ever since his creation. There is no logical reason for him to have form-specific moves that aren't his own.
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Thank you for the response, but does this mean he can create imperfect/semi-perfect forms of the Cell Juniors as well?Nikkolas wrote:As far as I know, you're right on the money. All of Cell's stolen techniques come from his...well, his cells, and he had those ever since his creation. There is no logical reason for him to have form-specific moves that aren't his own.
Also when he reaches his semi-perfect form #16 questions why he would even want to achieve perfection since there was no one who would be able to challenge him (until Vegeta and Trunks arrived after their training), and I assumed for a while that he wouldn't be able to use certain techniques in his DNA until absorbed #17 and #18 (in a sense it acted like an incentive).
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As far as I'm aware the only technique we can legitimately assume Cell couldn't use in his original form was the perfect barrier technique as this was a #17(and perhaps #18) only technique which required their ki generators which allowed them to never run out of ki. Perhaps the Cell Jr. creation could be done in the other forms but we can't assume that either. What we do know is that Cell has use of any technique of a warrior at the time their cells were collected. So the reason Cell could not use Instant Transmission was because the cells that were obtained from Goku were prior to Goku obtaining that technique. So Cell can use all the warriors techniques in any form. It is only his own specific techniques and the techniques of #17 and #18 he can't use in any form.Tundra wrote:Thank you for the response, but does this mean he can create imperfect/semi-perfect forms of the Cell Juniors as well?
Also when he reaches his semi-perfect form #16 questions why he would even want to achieve perfection since there was no one who would be able to challenge him (until Vegeta and Trunks arrived after their training), and I assumed for a while that he wouldn't be able to use certain techniques in his DNA until absorbed #17 and #18 (in a sense it acted like an incentive).
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Cell can use any technique that the warriors of his comprised cells can use.
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I have to make the obligatory comment here that neither of those two resources are terribly reliable.Tundra wrote:I'm a bit confused about the attacks Cell can use. For example on both the Dragon Ball wiki and the Dragon Ball Encyclopedia wiki separate the techniques Cell can use by form,
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Cell was also designed to achieve his perfect form. He was already the strongest being in his original timeline, but he was compelled by his ingrained purpose to travel back in time and absorb the androids. I don't think that he'd be able to just be satisfied with a flawed body.Tundra wrote:Thank you for the response, but does this mean he can create imperfect/semi-perfect forms of the Cell Juniors as well?Nikkolas wrote:As far as I know, you're right on the money. All of Cell's stolen techniques come from his...well, his cells, and he had those ever since his creation. There is no logical reason for him to have form-specific moves that aren't his own.
Also when he reaches his semi-perfect form #16 questions why he would even want to achieve perfection since there was no one who would be able to challenge him (until Vegeta and Trunks arrived after their training), and I assumed for a while that he wouldn't be able to use certain techniques in his DNA until absorbed #17 and #18 (in a sense it acted like an incentive).
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Also reading Herms' translation of Daizenshuu 7's Special Attack Dictionary states in Cell's Form Change ability that "After reaching his perfect form, Cell became a perfect warrior in speed, strength, and all other areas." Although I don't know what other areas mean. Also it would probably be easier to asborb two androids to become a much stronger being without equal, compared to having to asborb thousands of humans just to match Piccolo after his fusion with Kami.Kamiccolo9 wrote:Cell was also designed to achieve his perfect form. He was already the strongest being in his original timeline, but he was compelled by his ingrained purpose to travel back in time and absorb the androids. I don't think that he'd be able to just be satisfied with a flawed body.Tundra wrote:Thank you for the response, but does this mean he can create imperfect/semi-perfect forms of the Cell Juniors as well?Nikkolas wrote:As far as I know, you're right on the money. All of Cell's stolen techniques come from his...well, his cells, and he had those ever since his creation. There is no logical reason for him to have form-specific moves that aren't his own.
Also when he reaches his semi-perfect form #16 questions why he would even want to achieve perfection since there was no one who would be able to challenge him (until Vegeta and Trunks arrived after their training), and I assumed for a while that he wouldn't be able to use certain techniques in his DNA until absorbed #17 and #18 (in a sense it acted like an incentive).