Fat Boo and Super Boo Differences!

[RandomGuy96]

I never saw any indication that South Kaioshin Affected Buu uniquely via multiplication, so I just have South Kaioshin really strong. Fitting, since he's the strongest of the gods of gods and apparently forced Buu to use an incredibly OP desperation tactic.

[Hitiro]

No, you don't seem to understand that Kibitoshin's conclusion was in direct relation to Boo becoming Fat Boo and becoming weaker. He wasn't on about Evil Boo whatsoever when he said what he said. You can't safely conclude anything because you are just using the vagueness of what he said to justify Pure Boo being stronger. When there is actually a mound of evidence showing that Evil Boo is stronger. e.g. Goku saying he can't beat Evil Boo, Evil Boo saying only Gohan is stronger than him meaning Goku is weaker and thus so is Pure Boo. The certainty that fusion between the boys would put them at a high enough power level to be a contender against Fat Boo meaning SSJ Gotenks > SSJ2 Vegeta and thus meaning SSJ3 Gotenks would be roughly 8x stronger than Fat Boo. Meaning that SSJ3 Goku is weaker than SSJ3 Gotenks as Goku could never fight Fat Boo in any form other than SSJ3. And please don't come at me with the whole "fusion doesn't have the same multiplier" because that is baseless, you are only trying to use that to justify your own answer.

I usually make a note to myself to NOT respond to you - you come up with such wacky theories and formulas that have no basis in the DB reality, that it's hard to follow or argue against. Beyond that, I want to first say that Pan Pan is correct - and not only because they agree with me but because Pan Pan is using logic that is consistent with what was originally shown and stated. I pointed out in the post above, Goku is talking about "Buff"KidBuu's power was increasing once the good Fatbuu was removed from SUPERBUU. FatBuu is not shown, so how is the reader to assume that Goku is talking about Fatbuu and not superbuu...unless of course he wasn't?

I'm sorry but I am using logic and logic based on things that are fact in the story. Pan-Pan is saying "Well, the SSJ multipliers must be different for fused characters." There is no proof or basis for this argument, Pan-Pan is just saying it to justify their argument. Pan-Pan has yet to provide any sort of proof or reference to prove that the SSJ multipliers are different for fusion characters. They are just saying it because they can't explain away why a fusion character would possibly be stronger than the rest of the characters. We've seen it for ourselves that one of the fusions, the Potara fusion, put a SSJ Vegetto on par with Boohan which is arguably twice as strong as SSJ3 Goku. For that to even work we're talking about base Vegetto needing to be about or above 16 times stronger than base Goku just to be on par with Boohan, forgetting the fact he demolished him. If you go by the belief that the SSJ multiplier is smaller with fused characters that Pan-Pan suggested without any proof or basis then base Vegetto needs to be even stronger still depending on what SSJ multipliers you apply to fused characters.

And I'm sorry but when did I ever say Goku was talking about Fat Boo and not Evil Boo? Because I made no indication of something he said which was to do with Fat Boo.

When Kidbuu appears - fast forward to Kibito's comments, where he explains the reason BUU's power has increased. At what point in time does he claim "Well, Kidbuu is stronger than Fatbuu - but weaker than Superbuu who we are not talking about"?

Chapter: 508 (DBZ 314), P4.2-7
Kaioshin: “In m…my era there were five Kaioshins…until they were defeated by the Majin Boo that the wizard Babidi created…I was the youngest and most powerless one, but I somehow survived, with only heavy injuries…But the other four fell to Boo…First, two were killed…the North Kaioshin and the West Kaioshin….And then the South Kaioshin, the burliest and strongest one, was…somehow absorbed by Boo….. “
Elder Kaioshin: …And he became that huge Boo from before? “
Kaioshin: “…Yes…Next to be absorbed was the fat but kind and gentle Dai-Kaioshin….The Majin Boo that Bibidi created was evil itself, a failed creation that even Bibidi himself couldn’t handle, but by absorbing the Dai-Kaioshin, he somehow become controllable…. “
Elder Kaioshin: “…So he was finally completed…Which is to say…that this current…small Majin Boo…is the initial…mo…most troublesome one…”
Kaioshin: “….Yes…the heart which he gained by going so far as to lower his power through absorption…has returned once again to the way it was…he has no self-control whatsoever…he has become evil itself…”

The Kaioshin only made one relevant quote about Pure Boo's power in relation to Fat Boo. He clearly points out that of the two Fat Boo is weaker but there is no mention of Evil Boo. Dai Kaioshin was the only one to be portrayed as having a negative effect on Boo's power in this conversation leaving the final part of this conversation, the "heart which he gained by going so far as to lower his power through absorption" part, as being only one absorption lowering his power. As we have seen from all the other absorptions Boo's gone under when he was Evil Boo the absorptions have only increased his power. Leaving only the Dai Kaioshin's influence as a negative effect against him. So the fact that Buff Boo went to Pure Boo would actually be Boo getting weaker rather than stronger as the South Kaioshin's power would have increased Boo's power as we've seen happen with Gohan and Gotenks. I would also like to point out that the Kaioshin says "And then the South Kaioshin, the burliest and strongest one, was…somehow absorbed by Boo….." This is a weird line, he implies that he doesn't understand how the South Kaioshin was absorbed because he says "somehow". Why would he imply this unless South Kaioshin's strength was the real deal? Clearly the South Kaioshin was strong enough to fend off Pure Boo's advances but fell victim to the absorption. Something that shouldn't have happened due to him being so strong but it "somehow" happened anyway.

And once more - Goku prefers the Fusion as a means to combat BUU - he is found restating that point all the way until he transforms into SSJ3 to combat Buu. We the reader are to assume that Goku was lying to Vegeta, as a way to convince him to perform Fusion.

Incorrect, Goku only makes one reference to fusion inside Evil Boo. That is the last time he says anything about using fusion in a positive light until the middle of the battle with Pure Boo where Goku points out he's been trying to get his full power to finish Boo but couldn't because he underestimated SSJ3 on a living body further saying he'd need 1 uninterrupted minute to gain his full power to finish Pure Boo. He then follows this up saying that if they had fused it would be an easy win. Until this point Goku never restates the point. So no, we the reader are to assume that Goku was telling the truth.

[TheMightyOzaru]

I never saw any indication that South Kaioshin Affected Buu uniquely via multiplication, so I just have South Kaioshin really strong. Fitting, since he's the strongest of the gods of gods and apparently forced Buu to use an incredibly OP desperation tactic.

Kaioshin's and Buu have weird reactions all the time. It doesn't really matter if Southern Kaioshin is the strongest, the Kaioshins haven't really proved themselves to be super strong in comparison to the Saiyans or Buu. Buu probably just absorbed him for his skill. SK was well versed in his combat skill. Plus any power increase is a power increase. It's the same with Daikaio. He just absorbed him for a little power increase however it backfired.

[Undertaker]

I used to have Gotenks 400X stronger than Goku bu itm makes no sense and I have changed my mind. I have Gotenks 20X stronger than Goku

Fat Boo=800
SSJ3 Goku=1,000
SSJ Gotenks (Pre)=1,250
SSJ Gotenks (Post)=5,000
SSJ3 Gotenks=20,000
Evil Boo=18,500
Ultimate Gohan=28,000
Gotenks-Boo=38,500
Gohan-Boo=46,500
Super Vegetto=280,000

The difference between Gotenks and Goku is like the difference between Raditz Arc Piccolo to Vegeta Arc Goku without Kaioken IMO. The difference between Evil Boo to Fat Boo is 23.125 IMO.

[Pan-Pan]

You assume he lied which is completely baseless and backed up by nothing, and shown no times that it's correct.

It's not the same because my assumption isn't contradicted by any fact, and I've given a good reason why he lied.

1) You've given your reason as to why you think he's lying, but it just doesn't really work given what we see with Pure Buu later on. He knew from the moment that he tried convincing him to fuse with him to beat Gohan Buu that Vegeta didn't want to fuse with him, so the only reason he'd continue bringing it up is if he truly felt they had no other way of winning. It wasn't a matter of doing it just because he wanted to keep Vegeta safe or because he didn't want to use Ssj3, but that he knew that Evil Buu would kill them both if they tried to fight him. If he thought he could win simply with his Super Saiya-jin 3 form, he's going to use his Super Saiya-jin 3 form. It being a last resort doesn't hold water since he was so willing to use it later with Pure Buu and he wasn't that concerned with Vegeta's safety since he let Vegeta go and try to hold Pure Buu for a minute, knowing that if he died, he'd cease to exist forever.

Goku asked Vegeta again inside Boo because he thought he would accept to merge a second time. Afterwards, Goku never asks again because he already know that Vegeta doesn't want to fuse again.

2) Actually the dialogue makes it pretty clear that he thought that they couldn't do anything until he weakened to that state.

I think Goku was putting on an act, taking advantage of the fact that Vegeta underestimated Pure Boo, so that Vegeta wouldn't discover his previous lie.

When Kibitoshin is describing Buu's past to Rou Kaioushin, he doesn't give any indication that Buu absorbing South Kaioushin did anything out of the ordinary to him.

Why would Kibitoshin say specifically that Dai Kaioushin affected Buu in a negative way, but simply just say that Buu absorbed South Kaioushin, unless nothing unusual happened when he absorbed South Kaioushin, that Buu's body and power changed the same way that Buu's body did when he absorbed Gotenks or Gohan?

This doesn't matter. That's not the problem, really. When Evil Boo turned into Pure Boo, Kibitoshin said he has just lost the heart which lowered his power. This means that Evil Boo was still weakened compared to Pure Boo.

And remember, South Kaioushin is more powerful than the Dai Kaioushin, so logically, the boost that South Kaioushin is giving Buu's strength would in turn be greater than the penalty that Dai Kaioushin is giving him.

That's not what happened, given that Fat Boo is weaker than Pure Boo. And you believe (based on nothing) that the balance/ratio is reversed when it comes to Super Boo. Such a thing is never implied in the manga.

No, you don't seem to understand that Kibitoshin's conclusion was in direct relation to Boo becoming Fat Boo and becoming weaker. He wasn't on about Evil Boo whatsoever when he said what he said.

No, he's talking about the transformation they've just seen : Evil Buu reverting back to Pure Boo.

And please don't come at me with the whole "fusion doesn't have the same multiplier" because that is baseless, you are only trying to use that to justify your own answer.

And please don't come at me with the whole "South Kaioshin is stronger than Pure Boo" because that is baseless, you are only trying to use that to justify your own answer.

I would also like to point out that the Kaioshin says "And then the South Kaioshin, the burliest and strongest one, was…somehow absorbed by Boo….." This is a weird line, he implies that he doesn't understand how the South Kaioshin was absorbed because he says "somehow".

I don't speak English very well but according to my English/French dictionary, "somehow" can have two different meanings : "in some way" or "for some reason". So, I guess "somehow" could either mean "I don't know how" or "I don't know why" in Kaioshin's sentence.

[TheMightyOzaru]

What are you basing any of this on .

[Darkprince410]

1) You've given your reason as to why you think he's lying, but it just doesn't really work given what we see with Pure Buu later on. He knew from the moment that he tried convincing him to fuse with him to beat Gohan Buu that Vegeta didn't want to fuse with him, so the only reason he'd continue bringing it up is if he truly felt they had no other way of winning. It wasn't a matter of doing it just because he wanted to keep Vegeta safe or because he didn't want to use Ssj3, but that he knew that Evil Buu would kill them both if they tried to fight him. If he thought he could win simply with his Super Saiya-jin 3 form, he's going to use his Super Saiya-jin 3 form. It being a last resort doesn't hold water since he was so willing to use it later with Pure Buu and he wasn't that concerned with Vegeta's safety since he let Vegeta go and try to hold Pure Buu for a minute, knowing that if he died, he'd cease to exist forever.

Goku asked Vegeta again inside Boo because he thought he would accept to merge a second time. Afterwards, Goku never asks again because he already know that Vegeta doesn't want to fuse again.

2) Actually the dialogue makes it pretty clear that he thought that they couldn't do anything until he weakened to that state.

I think Goku was putting on an act, taking advantage of the fact that Vegeta underestimated Pure Boo, so that Vegeta wouldn't discover his previous lie.

When Kibitoshin is describing Buu's past to Rou Kaioushin, he doesn't give any indication that Buu absorbing South Kaioushin did anything out of the ordinary to him.

Why would Kibitoshin say specifically that Dai Kaioushin affected Buu in a negative way, but simply just say that Buu absorbed South Kaioushin, unless nothing unusual happened when he absorbed South Kaioushin, that Buu's body and power changed the same way that Buu's body did when he absorbed Gotenks or Gohan?

This doesn't matter. That's not the problem, really. When Evil Boo turned into Pure Boo, Kibitoshin said he has just lost the heart which lowered his power. This means that Evil Boo was still weakened compared to Pure Boo.

And remember, South Kaioushin is more powerful than the Dai Kaioushin, so logically, the boost that South Kaioushin is giving Buu's strength would in turn be greater than the penalty that Dai Kaioushin is giving him.

That's not what happened, given that Fat Boo is weaker than Pure Boo. And you believe (based on nothing) that the balance/ratio is reversed when it comes to Super Boo. Such a thing is never implied in the manga.

No, you don't seem to understand that Kibitoshin's conclusion was in direct relation to Boo becoming Fat Boo and becoming weaker. He wasn't on about Evil Boo whatsoever when he said what he said.

No, he's talking about the transformation they've just seen : Evil Buu reverting back to Pure Boo.

And please don't come at me with the whole "fusion doesn't have the same multiplier" because that is baseless, you are only trying to use that to justify your own answer.

And please don't come at me with the whole "South Kaioshin is stronger than Pure Boo" because that is baseless, you are only trying to use that to justify your own answer.

I would also like to point out that the Kaioshin says "And then the South Kaioshin, the burliest and strongest one, was…somehow absorbed by Boo….." This is a weird line, he implies that he doesn't understand how the South Kaioshin was absorbed because he says "somehow".

I don't speak English very well but according to my English/French dictionary, "somehow" can have two different meanings : "in some way" or "for some reason". So, I guess "somehow" could either mean "I don't know how" or "I don't know why" in Kaioshin's sentence.

1) He actually berates Vegeta multiple times for it, once when the two of them are just standing there talking after removing Gohan and the others, and then once again after Buu forms a miniature of himself within his body. Likewise, as I've said, there's no evidence to support that he was actually lying, since at no time after does he admit he was lying or give any indication that he really could have been able to defeat Evil Buu on his own, so I pose the counter-argument that he stopped asking/begging for Vegeta to fuse with him because it simply wasn't necessary for them to win.

2) But he didn't know that Vegeta underestimated Pure Buu until well into Goku's fight with him, and even then it's only because Vegeta outright told him. There's no reason for Goku to put on an act for Vegeta, none whatsoever.

3) I disagree, because it doesn't say that it lowered his strength to below that of Pure Buu. All the line says is that Buu, after absorbing the Dai Kaioushin, developed a heart and, in turn, his power dropped as a result. It doesn't say how much that it dropped or anything along those lines though, nor do you seem to take into account that it wasn't Pure Buu right to Fat Buu, but Pure Buu to the significantly stronger South Kaioushin Buu before becoming Fat Buu.

4) You see, that's where there's room for Goku to be wrong. Yes, it's very likely that he would have been able to destroy Fat Buu if Fat Buu remained at the strength he was at when the two of them fought, but it's shown multiple times that, when angry, his power skyrockets, much like how Gohan's would when he was younger, so Fat Buu wasn't at his full strength when the two of them fought.

Let's look at it this way

Pure Buu = 100
South Kaioushin = 110 (Because I feel that Kaioushin had to be stronger than Buu in order for Buu to feel the need to absorb him)
South Kaioushin Buu = 210
Dai Kaioushin = 50
Fat Buu (happy) = Somewhere below 100 (likely in the 80's)
Fat Buu (angry) = 160
Pure Evil Buu = 100
Innocent Buu = 60 (just a reflection of the effects the Kaioushin had on Buu, retaining the total amount of strength Fat Buu gained solely from the Kaioushin)
Evil Buu = 160 (Still showing some effects of Dai Kaioushin, but being at the power that Fat Buu could only tap into when angry, he's not restricted as much by it)

This would explain why Goku felt he could beat Fat Buu at the time, why Evil Buu is stronger than Pure Buu, why Pure Buu should at best be equal to Pure Evil Buu, since both are just the pure evil sides of Ma-jin Buu, and in turn explains why this formula can't logically be contradicted.

Fat Buu = Pure Evil Buu + Innocent Buu
Evil Buu = Pure Evil Buu + Innocent Buu

Fat Buu = Evil Buu

Pure Evil Buu + Innocent Buu = Evil Buu - Innocent Buu = Pure Buu

Pure Evil Buu = Pure Buu

5) Somehow pretty much just means that first definition you gave, that "in some way" he absorbed him. In English, if you want to convey "for some reason", then the only thing to really say is "for some reason". Likewise, since this is Kibitoshin recounting the events of Buu's attack on the Kaioushin, him absorbing South Kaioushin is the first time, chronologically, that Buu had ever absorbed anyone, so the "somehow" is possibly an indication of him having no idea at the time how Buu is able to absorb others. Alternately, the "somehow" might be an indication of Kibitoshin being bewildered by the fact that Pure Buu had managed to absorb him, suggesting that he was surprised someone so strong and fast as South Kaioushin could ever be caught off guard long enough to be absorbed by Buu.

[RandomGuy96]

Those numbers a bit flawed, because as I've said repeatedly SS Gotenks >>> SS2 Goku by Goku's own admission. I'll post what I posted in another thread:

Standard unit of measure: SS Gokus.

Majin Vegeta = 2 SS
SS2 Goku = 2 SS
Fat Buu = 3 SS
SS Gotenks = 4 SS
SS3 Goku = 8 SS
Pure Buu = 9 SS
South Kaioshin = 21 SS
Super Buu = 29 SS
Buuccolo = 29.4 SS
Buuoshin = 30 SS
SS3 Gotenks = 32 SS
Ultimate Gohan = 46 SS
Buutenks = 61 SS
Buuhan = 75 SS

And I really think you guys should just give up. If they can ignore very simple power statements from the manga for the sake of wanking Goku then they can ignore anything else you throw at them.

[Draken]

You assume he lied which is completely baseless and backed up by nothing, and shown no times that it's correct.

It's not the same because my assumption isn't contradicted by any fact, and I've given a good reason why he lied.

And please don't come at me with the whole "fusion doesn't have the same multiplier" because that is baseless, you are only trying to use that to justify your own answer.

And please don't come at me with the whole "South Kaioshin is stronger than Pure Boo" because that is baseless, you are only trying to use that to justify your own answer.

It's also backed up by no fact. You're assuming something based on nothing. I assume that Mr. Satan is actually the strongest warrior in the Universe. After all, he took a direct hit to the face by Buu and is the only one shown to be able to control him to an extent besides Babidi. Maybe it was Buu's fear of his insane power, who knows . Which fact contradicts this? Because any fact you say that could possibly contradict this, I will give you my answer right now. The other character was lying, Mr. Satan is actually the strongest.

Also, I like how for Hitiro's statement, you had no argument so you had to resort to a taunt, lol

[Darkprince410]

Those numbers a bit flawed, because as I've said repeatedly SS Gotenks >>> SS2 Goku by Goku's own admission. I'll post what I posted in another thread:

Standard unit of measure: SS Gokus.

Majin Vegeta = 2 SS
SS2 Goku = 2 SS
Fat Buu = 3 SS
SS Gotenks = 4 SS
SS3 Goku = 8 SS
Pure Buu = 9 SS
South Kaioshin = 21 SS
Super Buu = 29 SS
Buuccolo = 29.4 SS
Buuoshin = 30 SS
SS3 Gotenks = 32 SS
Ultimate Gohan = 46 SS
Buutenks = 61 SS
Buuhan = 75 SS

And I really think you guys should just give up. If they can ignore very simple power statements from the manga for the sake of wanking Goku then they can ignore anything else you throw at them.

I wasn't throwing them out for them to be a very accurate indication of power, simply just a visual representation of how Pure Buu could be weaker than Evil Buu, how he could be equal in power to Pure Evil Buu, and how Goku's statement about him being able to defeat Fat Buu could still be considered accurate given the circumstances. I don't disagree with your numbers, but they're a bit too specific for how general I was trying to lay the information out.

And Draken, I know I shouldn't be playing moderator or anything, but let's try to avoid any sort of goading. Vegetto's given out a number of ultimatums already and I'm certain he's nearing the end of his tolerance level, so being all "Ha ha! You couldn't even come up with anything good to say so you just tried making fun of him!" probably isn't the best thing to be doing.

[Hitiro]

And please don't come at me with the whole "fusion doesn't have the same multiplier" because that is baseless, you are only trying to use that to justify your own answer.

And please don't come at me with the whole "South Kaioshin is stronger than Pure Boo" because that is baseless, you are only trying to use that to justify your own answer.

I'm sorry but my belief that South Kaioshin is stronger than Pure Boo, or at least on par, is not baseless. It is a legitimate opinion as to why Pure Boo felt the need absorb the South Kaioshin where he previously killed the other two. You're opinion of "fusion doesn't have the same SSJ multipliers" however has nothing to back it up. The simple fact here is Pure Boo absorbed the South Kaioshin for a reason, given the fact that the East Kaioshin pointed out he was the strongest of the Kaioshins kind of stands on its own merit. Pure Boo absorbed the strongest Kaioshin because he felt threatened or was backed into a corner where he desperately brought about the absorption. This is as good a reason as any as to why Pure Boo would absorb the South Kaioshin. But where is your reasoning for fusion warriors having different SSJ multipliers? Let me make this easy for you and simplify our viewpoints:

My viewpoint, which is valid as it has a basis, that being South Kaioshin was absorbed by Pure Boo
South Kaioshin was absorbed by Pure Boo - A Possible Reason: South Kaioshin was enough of a threat for Pure Boo to be pressured, or desperate enough, to absorb him.

Your viewpoint
Gotenks SSJ multipliers must be weaker than an unfused Saiyans. < No basis, you have yet to provide me with any proof to back up your claim.

There is no evidence that contradicts his SSJ multipliers being any different from a normal unfused Saiyan. Where as my basis for South Kaioshin being stronger, or at least on par, with Pure Boo is that the South Kaioshin was absorbed by Pure Boo. There must be a reason for Pure Boo to absorb him when up until that point he hadn't absorbed the other two Kaioshin he thought. South Kaioshin being the strongest of the Kaioshin and the first one to be absorbed are kind of indicators for why Pure Boo would absorb him.

I would also like to point out that the Kaioshin says "And then the South Kaioshin, the burliest and strongest one, was…somehow absorbed by Boo….." This is a weird line, he implies that he doesn't understand how the South Kaioshin was absorbed because he says "somehow".

I don't speak English very well but according to my English/French dictionary, "somehow" can have two different meanings : "in some way" or "for some reason". So, I guess "somehow" could either mean "I don't know how" or "I don't know why" in Kaioshin's sentence.

You've practically said what I've said here the Kaioshin says "somehow" which as you said it could mean "I don't know how" this could imply that he doesn't understand how the strongest of the Kaioshin would be caught off-guard with such a trick. Implying that Kaioshin was at a level(Which would be on par or above Pure Boo) where he shouldn't have fallen pray to such a trick. Look at it this in a slightly different context, Evil Boo was outclassed by Gohan but Evil Boo "somehow" absorbed Gohan. < Of course it didn't play out like this, we saw what happened and we know Gohan wasn't the first to be absorbed. But if we didn't see the way these events played out then we would be saying "somehow" Gohan was absorbed by Evil Boo. Because it is surprising that is happened to a warrior who is much more powerful. I think Darkprince410 explains this better than me:

5) Somehow pretty much just means that first definition you gave, that "in some way" he absorbed him. In English, if you want to convey "for some reason", then the only thing to really say is "for some reason". Likewise, since this is Kibitoshin recounting the events of Buu's attack on the Kaioushin, him absorbing South Kaioushin is the first time, chronologically, that Buu had ever absorbed anyone, so the "somehow" is possibly an indication of him having no idea at the time how Buu is able to absorb others. Alternately, the "somehow" might be an indication of Kibitoshin being bewildered by the fact that Pure Buu had managed to absorb him, suggesting that he was surprised someone so strong and fast as South Kaioushin could ever be caught off guard long enough to be absorbed by Buu.

[Amuro Ray]

We all have been going about this conversation the wrong way (absolutely including myself) So allow me to step back, take a deep breath and make a in depth response....



















Later.

[Hitiro]

We all have been going about this conversation the wrong way (absolutely including myself) So allow me to step back, take a deep breath and make a in depth response....
Later.

I'm sorry but this is a bit childish. If you have nothing to contribute to the conversation then its better not to say anything. Or at least say that you'll agree to disagree on our respective viewpoints. Commenting in this manner serves no purpose but to show disrespect to your fellow peers.

[Amuro Ray]

We all have been going about this conversation the wrong way (absolutely including myself) So allow me to step back, take a deep breath and make a in depth response....
Later.

I'm sorry but this is a bit childish. If you have nothing to contribute to the conversation then its better not to say anything. Or at least say that you'll agree to disagree on our respective viewpoints. Commenting in this manner serves no purpose but to show disrespect to your fellow peers.

I'm trying to bite my tongue and be very nice about this - There was do disrespect meant or implied in that post.

[VegettoEX]

I'm sorry but this is a bit childish. If you have nothing to contribute to the conversation then its better not to say anything. Or at least say that you'll agree to disagree on our respective viewpoints. Commenting in this manner serves no purpose but to show disrespect to your fellow peers.

There was really no reason for you to post like this, either. Please leave the moderation to the moderators.

[Pan-Pan]

But he didn't know that Vegeta underestimated Pure Buu until well into Goku's fight with him, and even then it's only because Vegeta outright told him. There's no reason for Goku to put on an act for Vegeta, none whatsoever.

He knows because Vegeta focused only on Boo's size. And he conceals his lie for the same reason he lets Vegeta believe that he (Vegeta) also can fight Boo, I guess.
Then comes the line "I can say this now, but the truth is..." so maybe Goku felt that he couldn't say earlier that he was hiding his true power, I don't know.
But, you know, I can't imagine that Pure Boo is weaker when I don't see any direct statement of that, while there are always direct power statements in the manga. Too fishy. Even when Goku replies to Kaioshin that he wants to fight Pure Boo without merging with Vegeta, he doesn't say it's because Boo is weaker but because he has no absorbees left. It was another opportunity to state that Boo is weaker, but he still doesn't say it.

I disagree, because it doesn't say that it lowered his strength to below that of Pure Buu. All the line says is that Buu, after absorbing the Dai Kaioushin, developed a heart and, in turn, his power dropped as a result. It doesn't say how much that it dropped or anything along those lines though, nor do you seem to take into account that it wasn't Pure Buu right to Fat Buu, but Pure Buu to the significantly stronger South Kaioushin Buu before becoming Fat Buu.

Kaioshin is talking about Pure Boo when he says his line "his heart which lowered his power has returned to the way it was", so it means that Pure Boo's power was lowered until now.

You see, that's where there's room for Goku to be wrong. Yes, it's very likely that he would have been able to destroy Fat Buu if Fat Buu remained at the strength he was at when the two of them fought, but it's shown multiple times that, when angry, his power skyrockets, much like how Gohan's would when he was younger, so Fat Buu wasn't at his full strength when the two of them fought.

Ow, you think that Goku was wrong and Fat boo, when angry, was stronger than Pure Boo. And I am being accused to say that Goku lied with no basis...
But then, when Goku said that Evil Boo's power increased when he turned into Buff Boo, I see no reason for it, apart from misleading the reader. Especially since Goku doesn't talk about Boo's power dropping right after, although he (Pure Boo) should clearly be twice as weak, at least, according to your theory.
I don't think it worked the way you interpret it, because in this case, the absorption of the South Kaioshin has no screenplay utility.

Somehow pretty much just means that first definition you gave, that "in some way" he absorbed him. In English, if you want to convey "for some reason", then the only thing to really say is "for some reason". Likewise, since this is Kibitoshin recounting the events of Buu's attack on the Kaioushin, him absorbing South Kaioushin is the first time, chronologically, that Buu had ever absorbed anyone, so the "somehow" is possibly an indication of him having no idea at the time how Buu is able to absorb others. Alternately, the "somehow" might be an indication of Kibitoshin being bewildered by the fact that Pure Buu had managed to absorb him, suggesting that he was surprised someone so strong and fast as South Kaioushin could ever be caught off guard long enough to be absorbed by Buu.

Ok, but I still disagree with this interpretation, because I think that if Boo was forced to absorb South Kai, it would have been clearer. Something like "Boo somehow managed to absorb the South Kaioshin".

I'm sorry but my belief that South Kaioshin is stronger than Pure Boo, or at least on par, is not baseless. It is a legitimate opinion as to why Pure Boo felt the need absorb the South Kaioshin where he previously killed the other two. You're opinion of "fusion doesn't have the same SSJ multipliers" however has nothing to back it up.

You know, in the manga, there is no indication about SSJ multipliers. And we don't really know if they're the same for each character. Besides, in your theory, Gotenks SS3 is stronger than Goku SS3 by the same gap there is between SS1 and SS2. You believe it's x2, based on the super guides. But in the manga, all I see is that the gap between Gohan SS1 and Gohan SS2 (Cell arc) is huge. Thus, there would be the same gap between Fat Boo and Evil Boo, while the only thing stated is "everything about him is greater than before". Why not place the emphasis on his strength ?
The second problem is that South Kaioshin would be stronger than Boo, while the Kaioshins are supposed to be below SS1 Gohan's level. Such an exception should be mentioned IMO, but this is not the case.
At last but not least, remember that Gotenks never achieved SS2. Maybe the fusion somehow replaced it with SS3 so that the SS3 multipliers would fall on the SS2 level. It's weird but Gotenks went directly from the regular Super Saiyan to SS3, as if SS2 didn't exist in Fusion.

Pure Boo absorbed the strongest Kaioshin because he felt threatened or was backed into a corner where he desperately brought about the absorption.

Yeah, he's the strongest kaioshin. But Kibitoshin didn't say "the strongest of the universe" or "stronger than Boo". Thus, this is only your own interpretation. And I would say this is an unlikely interpretation.
I'm not saying that I'm right and you're wrong though, but my opinion also is defendable.

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At last but not least, remember that Gotenks never achieved SS2. Maybe the fusion somehow replaced it with SS3 so that the SS3 multipliers would fall on the SS2 level. It's weird but Gotenks went directly from the regular Super Saiyan to SS3, as if SS2 didn't exist in Fusion.

He did go SSJ2 though. Only briefly, but you can see it during his transformation.

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Maybe it was just part of the SS3 transformation given that it's not instantaneous. All we see is lightning but it may be only because SS3 has lightning. Since he didn't maintain this state, and never refers to it. When the kids first achieved SS3, they only said they've achieved a level above Super Saiyan.

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Daizenshuu 7 also states that Gotenks is capable of becoming a SSJ2. No one else in the series gets new transformations by skipping older ones, so why should Gotenks?

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If Gotenks can really go SS2, why did he never use it ? He relies only on his SS3.
Moreover, I don't think that Gotenks could do such a performance as a SS1 against Evil Boo who is on the same level as SS3 Gotenks. I know it's a gag fight but still.