Listing for "Ocean Dub"-specific DBZ: "Rock the Dragon" Set

[samuraix123]

Oh well..I was hoping this was going to be real but I guess I just posted without thinking.
http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtop ... =7&t=23250
Sorry about that guys.

[KingofWisdom]

If it's only three months away from release, it really should be on Amazon by now (especially since they have pre-orders for stuff coming out in September 2013). Wonder what's going on with that.

[dbboxkaifan]

I keep checking Amazon.com - Anime 2013 New Releases and to this date Dragon Ball Z: Saiyan Saga (Ocean Dub) still isn't listed.

It has other anime releases from July, August and September. Something's not right.

On the bright side I became aware that Kimba: The White Lion is getting a new re-release. Awesome!

So far I've been watching the series on Xbox 360 via Manga Entertainment App and the English dub is fantastic.

[Solidus]

Well this doesn't look good. AAA Anime, Mail Order Comics, Westfield Comics and Archonia.com have removed their listing for this. Looks like Funimation is either changing something like the release date or cancelling it completely. It's a pity, I was really looking forward to the prospect of the old dub with better picture quality.

[Metalwario64]

Doesn't matter much to me. I have the singles for the entire Saiyan arc, and just need a few for the Namek arc. The picture quality isn't that good, but it's good enough.

[oXdanXo]

Well this doesn't look good. AAA Anime, Mail Order Comics, Westfield Comics and Archonia.com have removed their listing for this. Looks like Funimation is either changing something like the release date or cancelling it completely. It's a pity, I was really looking forward to the prospect of the old dub with better picture quality.

Wost news ever. I'm still hopeful though.

[dbboxkaifan]

Oh god I hope this isn't another Dragon Ball Z: Sparking Omega!! kind of rumour with a lot of anxiety for nothing.

[dbboxkaifan]

Another day has passed and no listing on Amazon.com, think we should assume this was nothing but an awful prank for those that were waiting for this to come out.

I'm really disappointed I'd have pre-ordered this right away via Amazon if real but given that it's passed way too long already, no FUNimation announcement, no Amazon listing and revoked from other retailers gives the impression that this was a false call.

Someday a re-release might happen.

[Super Sayian Prime]

Oh god I hope this isn't another Dragon Ball Z: Sparking Omega!! kind of rumour with a lot of anxiety for nothing.

Uh, these are two completely different situations. Sparking Omega was some made up nonsense from 2ch that was reported as fact. AAA Anime is a legitimate retailer, as are the other sources that posted it. The fact that Funimation never denied the existence of the product also confirms its' legitimacy. The release has either been canceled or pushed back.

[ShadowDude112]

Oh god I hope this isn't another Dragon Ball Z: Sparking Omega!! kind of rumour with a lot of anxiety for nothing.

Uh, these are two completely different situations. Sparking Omega was some made up nonsense from 2ch that was reported as fact. AAA Anime is a legitimate retailer, as are the other sources that posted it. The fact that Funimation never denied the existence of the product also confirms its' legitimacy. The release has either been canceled or pushed back.

Gonna call it right now and say it's been cancelled. There's no way this release should see the light of day.

[ABED]

Shadowdude, what's wrong with it?

[dbboxkaifan]

This hasn't been yet listed neither on Rightstuf nor Amazon, and neither has FUNimation given a comment about it. It gives that impression that it's either cancelled or a hoax.

I sure hope this isn't a hoax.

[Attitudefan]

Well, that was disappointing.

[DemonRin]

Shadowdude, what's wrong with it?

There's a list a mile long.

1: It will reverse all the progress FUNi has been making as a company and with the Dragon Ball properties by going back to the edited release of yore.
2: It will further muddy the waters with ANOTHER modern release of this material in a market that is already over saturated with options for this arc (Dragon Boxes, Orange Bricks, Level Sets, Kai)
3: They wouldn't be able to offer it uncut, and would most likely need to use their old masters from the mid 90s. How much do you want to bet they haven't held up well?
4: What do they do when they run out of Ocean eps? Do they get the Canadian/European broadcast dub? What do they do to fill in the parts they didn't dub at all? Do they leave the release incomplete at episode "54"?
5: The demand just isn't high enough for it. The extremely high sales on the Orange Bricks is proof enough. The casual fanbase has spoken and they either don't care which cast is being used or are ok with the current cast. The market for this is too niche to really show that much of a profit for.

Just to name a few right off the top of my head.

My money tho would be on this being a hoax from day 1. I think we'd have SOME Form of corroborating evidence. An A-list retailer listing something, a solicit for July that at least includes the set at some capacity, ANYONE at FUNimation telling us this is a thing that is happening... What I think happened is, someone was able to get a C-List retailer to accept their hoax image, and a whole bunch of other C-List retailers took that as a sign and copied the listing.

[Metalwario64]

My money tho would be on this being a hoax from day 1. I think we'd have SOME Form of corroborating evidence. An A-list retailer listing something, a solicit for July that at least includes the set at some capacity, ANYONE at FUNimation telling us this is a thing that is happening... What I think happened is, someone was able to get a C-List retailer to accept their hoax image, and a whole bunch of other C-List retailers took that as a sign and copied the listing.

AAA Anime is "A-List", though. I see their logo on nearly every figure I import.

[dbboxkaifan]

Amazon.com has yet listed more new upcoming anime releases and Dragon Ball Z: The Saiyan Saga is nowhere to be found.

We really aren't that far away from 17th July any more, at this point it should be on Amazon and other major online retailers but since it has been removed that could mean anything (hoax or real).

[KingofWisdom]

I sent a message to the FUNimation Twitter almost a week ago asking about this release and got no response. I'm inclined to believe that it's not a hoax, especially since they were quick to deny Chris Sabat's supposed announcement of 66 more episodes of Kai being licensed (which he may or may not have said).

[ABED]

Shadowdude, what's wrong with it?

There's a list a mile long.

1: It will reverse all the progress FUNi has been making as a company and with the Dragon Ball properties by going back to the edited release of yore.
2: It will further muddy the waters with ANOTHER modern release of this material in a market that is already over saturated with options for this arc (Dragon Boxes, Orange Bricks, Level Sets, Kai)
3: They wouldn't be able to offer it uncut, and would most likely need to use their old masters from the mid 90s. How much do you want to bet they haven't held up well?
4: What do they do when they run out of Ocean eps? Do they get the Canadian/European broadcast dub? What do they do to fill in the parts they didn't dub at all? Do they leave the release incomplete at episode "54"?
5: The demand just isn't high enough for it. The extremely high sales on the Orange Bricks is proof enough. The casual fanbase has spoken and they either don't care which cast is being used or are ok with the current cast. The market for this is too niche to really show that much of a profit for.

Just to name a few right off the top of my head.

My money tho would be on this being a hoax from day 1. I think we'd have SOME Form of corroborating evidence. An A-list retailer listing something, a solicit for July that at least includes the set at some capacity, ANYONE at FUNimation telling us this is a thing that is happening... What I think happened is, someone was able to get a C-List retailer to accept their hoax image, and a whole bunch of other C-List retailers took that as a sign and copied the listing.

A better question is why would you concern yourself with any of those reasons? They don't affect you directly except for the quality of the masters, but that assume a desire to buy those episodes in the first place. If it's a product you want, why would it matter to you if the demand was high enough? Why would rereleasing old episodes reverse all progress? Do you think that if this was successful that they would go back to that style of production (eg badly adapted scripts and heavy editing)?

[KingofWisdom]

The elitist attitude is surprising to me. It's perfectly fine to not want this release. Continue watching your Dragon Boxes or whatever. As said, it's not like FUNimation is going to go back to chopping up episodes, completely rewriting the script and changing the music even if this set came out and met sales expectations. It's not undoing all progress, it's throwing a bone to people who want to buy this dub without hunting it down on Amazon or eBay.

Besides, only the orange bricks and Kai are still on the market. The Dragon Boxes have been discontinued (and I'm guessing the level sets have as well).

[The Jackal]

5: The demand just isn't high enough for it. The extremely high sales on the Orange Bricks is proof enough. The casual fanbase has spoken and they either don't care which cast is being used or are ok with the current cast. The market for this is too niche to really show that much of a profit for.

You're wrong; not everyone grew up with the Funimation dub, us here in the UK got the Ocean Dub as did most Canadians, you also got the folks who like to relive the old dub for nostalgic reasons; there's your demand right there.

I can't stand Funimation, I would jump at the chance to own the Ocean Dub in better quality than the TV rips I have now.