Goku's teleportation technique thingie?

Dai · Post by **Dai** » Sun Mar 07, 2004 12:41 pm

So, I've been thinking about this one for quite a time. Correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Goku's ''Shunkan Idou (sp?)'' consist of reverting his body to pure light and travelling in that form, meaning travelling with the speed of light? I've thought about that, but it doesn't make sense. For example, in movie 8, Goku simply teleports to the Southern Galaxy, almost instantly. But wouldn't the Southern Galaxy be hundreds of light years away? Same case with places like New Namek. They would literally have to be lightyears away. And with Shunkan Idou, it would take Goku years to reach places like that. And again, another theory comes into play here.. Just where is Kaiou's place? If my memory serves me correctly, each time Goku teleports to another planet, he does it via Kaiou's place. This could mean this ''lightyear'' system doesn't work there, and he doesn't have to worry about distance if he travels from Kaiou's.

But I'm probably either over-analyzing things, and this is just a consistency error, or my theory concerning Shunkan Idou is wrong. So which is it?

mAcChaos · Post by **mAcChaos** » Sun Mar 07, 2004 12:49 pm

Well, I believe Bulma gives a figure of how far away Namek is, in the Saiyan Saga; I am not sure about New Namek. Who's to say that it isn't that far away? I believe that Kaio-Sama's world is on another plane, so it lets him have access to, and see, every planet in his quadrant.

Zackarotto · Post by **Zackarotto** » Sun Mar 07, 2004 12:52 pm

The only reason he goes to Kaiou's is because Kaiou can point him in the right direction.

Seriously, he explained it. He's not travelling at the speed of light, or any speed at all. He's not travelling. He's literally dissapearing and reappearing in a different location.

Adamant · Post by **Adamant** » Sun Mar 07, 2004 12:53 pm

Goku didn't know where New Namek was, so he teleported to Kaiou so he would tell him.

PsyLiam · Post by **PsyLiam** » Sun Mar 07, 2004 2:38 pm

He didn't transport via Kaio's when he was travelling back to Earth from Yadrat. He implies that he would have got there no problem, but he would have to be REALLY close to Earth for that to happen. Earth to the sun is about 7 light minutes, and a lot can happen in 7 minutes. Hell, Goku and Freeza could have their entire Namek fight again, with 2 minutes to spare. *cough*

So, I'm going with the whole "instantly disappearing and reappearing" theory.

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Sun Mar 07, 2004 10:33 pm

I agree with Liam, as frightening as that is!

I've always thought of as just teleporting.

Zackarotto · Post by **Zackarotto** » Sun Mar 07, 2004 11:30 pm

It's not a "theory"! It's not "how one might think of it"! It's the truth! It's spoken! When I say One Two Django you'll stop saying silly things!

One Two Django! And I'm not drawing it.

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Sun Mar 07, 2004 11:38 pm

It didn't work! Walloping wolverines and conjugating caracals!

Dai · Post by **Dai** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 4:37 pm

You stop that, or I'll put you both back in the box.

That said, I could swear I heard the explanation of travelling with the speed of light, somewhere... Hmm, dub error, perchance?

Zackarotto · Post by **Zackarotto** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 4:57 pm

No! Not the box!!

That's what they said in the dub, yes.

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 7:35 pm

I kinda like the box.

Zackarotto · Post by **Zackarotto** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 8:13 pm

I don't want to be stuck in a box with Jersey. I'm only good at long range combat... Well, the length of a Kusari-Gama chain anyway.

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 8:24 pm

Heh, heh! That's what you get for relying on such a specialized weapon! Didn't you learn anything from watching Kenshin Zacko?

Zackarotto · Post by **Zackarotto** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 8:28 pm

I practice kendo sometimes...

Okay, I'm screwed.

Mochi · Post by **Mochi** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 10:05 pm

Dai wrote:You stop that, or I'll put you both back in the box.

Um... Sorry if I'm being stupid... But what is the box?

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Mon Mar 08, 2004 10:16 pm

Hee hee! Do something bad, and you'll find out soon enough.

Zackarotto · Post by **Zackarotto** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 4:47 pm

While it could be a reference to Somerandomguy (Chichi putting Goku in the box) or whatever SRG got it from, the point is that the box isn't something you actually have to worry about.

But I'm totally going to have to put you in the box for asking that question.

PsyLiam · Post by **PsyLiam** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 6:15 pm

I'll go out on a limb and say that SRG didn't come up with the concept of "the box".

I don't know what the actual origin is, but the idea is that you're put in a small box with no light for an extended period of time. You can't move, you can't see, you can't do anything, really.

Oooh, possibly the Great Escape. Didn't they through the guy a ball so that he'd have something to do?

laserkid · Post by **laserkid** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 6:30 pm

To clarify a bit the Instantaneous Movement technique is just that - instantaneous Movement. It basically teleports him right there, but to do it he has to recognize a life aura to teleport by - its not the speed of light, its instantaneous.

Jerseymilk · Post by **Jerseymilk** » Tue Mar 09, 2004 7:26 pm

PsyLiam wrote:I'll go out on a limb and say that SRG didn't come up with the concept of "the box".

I don't know what the actual origin is, but the idea is that you're put in a small box with no light for an extended period of time. You can't move, you can't see, you can't do anything, really.

Oooh, possibly the Great Escape. Didn't they through the guy a ball so that he'd have something to do?

I thought the origins came from those little square compartments they put prisoners in in the Tower of London, as a method of torture.

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Goku's teleportation technique thingie?

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