So what exactly makes "Perfect" Cell perfect?

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So what exactly makes "Perfect" Cell perfect?

Post by Ringworm128 » Thu May 09, 2013 3:30 am

When Cell absorbs #18 all that really happens is that his appearance changes and he grows much stronger, apart from that there seems to be nothing special about his "perfect" form.

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Re: So what exactly makes "Perfect" Cell perfect?

Post by Hitiro » Thu May 09, 2013 4:08 am

Well I also assume that his perfect form has a more efficient body design. Being more suited for battle basically. He's a bit weedy in his imperfect form and in his semi-perfect form he's bulky. In his perfect form he seems to have just the right amount of muscle to contribute to both speed and strength. I'd say his body also takes on a more aerodynamic design too.

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Re: So what exactly makes "Perfect" Cell perfect?

Post by rereboy » Thu May 09, 2013 6:41 am

ringworm128 wrote:When Cell absorbs #18 all that really happens is that his appearance changes and he grows much stronger, apart from that there seems to be nothing special about his "perfect" form.
Its probably in regards to power. With 18's and 17's reactors, he probably is self-sufficient in terms of energy. Meaning, he doesn't need to sleep, eat or drink or any other thing that beings do to maintain themselves. And he already had all the useful abilities from Saiyans, Freeza's family and Namekians, making him incredibly tough, capable of regeneration, can survive in space, etc, so his added self-sufficiency in terms of energy makes him a pretty flawless being.

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Re: So what exactly makes "Perfect" Cell perfect?

Post by Ringworm128 » Thu May 09, 2013 7:02 am

Didn't Cell say himself that it was possible that he would grow tired?

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Re: So what exactly makes "Perfect" Cell perfect?

Post by rereboy » Thu May 09, 2013 7:07 am

ringworm128 wrote:Didn't Cell say himself that it was possible that he would grow tired?
That doesn't mean that he needs to sleep or eat or whatever to recover, just a little time.

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Re: So what exactly makes "Perfect" Cell perfect?

Post by MDSTSSJ » Thu May 09, 2013 7:43 am

So what exactly makes "Perfect" Cell perfect?

- Incredible hidden power.
- Efficient body design.
- All warriors abilities, techniques, cells, etc mixed with that great power. Regeneration is remarkable!
- Inspires fear and respect.

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Re: So what exactly makes "Perfect" Cell perfect?

Post by TheMightyOzaru » Thu May 09, 2013 9:00 am

It might have something to do with the fact that he is comprised of the cells of some of the best races in the universe :think: .
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Re: So what exactly makes "Perfect" Cell perfect?

Post by Kamiccolo9 » Thu May 09, 2013 9:19 am

Apparently, this.
Chapter: 380 (DBZ 186), P2.4
Context: when asked if his perfect form could beat Vegeta
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Re: So what exactly makes "Perfect" Cell perfect?

Post by alakazam^ » Thu May 16, 2013 8:16 am

Kamiccolo9 wrote:Apparently, this.
Chapter: 380 (DBZ 186), P2.4
Context: when asked if his perfect form could beat Vegeta
Cell: “Power! Speed! Technique! Brains! Mental Strength! I will be perfect in every way! That’s what the computer told me!!
That computer must have been running Windows.

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Re: So what exactly makes "Perfect" Cell perfect?

Post by GTx10 » Wed May 22, 2013 7:41 pm

Cell is a odd ball to be sure. To gain his Perfect form he needs two Cyborgs yet #8, 13, 14, 15, 16, 19 and Gero do nothing for him. Why are humans turned robot so important to his system and not a pure robot. I always wondered how Cell with Saiyan cells hasn't reached a SS4 like power level yet. I'm not sure what's perfect about him either.
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Re: So what exactly makes "Perfect" Cell perfect?

Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Wed May 22, 2013 8:21 pm

GTx10 wrote:To gain his Perfect form he needs two Cyborgs yet #8, 13, 14, 15, 16, 19 and Gero do nothing for him. Why are humans turned robot so important to his system and not a pure robot.
"The ultimate biotechnological artificial human. His name signifies how he was made by combining the cells of fighting masters. His production took time, so a computer continued the research and completed him 24 years in the future. He powers up by absorbing the life energy of humans, and can further achieve his transfiguration into his ultimate perfect form by absorbing No. 17 and No. 18. " -#Cell's entry in Daizenshu 4's Technology & Supernatural section

"A cool-headed artificial human who enjoys battles as if they were games. As the twin brother of No. 18, he places more importance on power. Like No. 18, he is fundamentally human-based and only his organic matter has been restructured. The few mechanical parts that are used were for his emergency deactivation controller and self-destruction device. If the emergency deactivation controller is used on the powerful No. 17 and No. 18, they become unable to move their bodies." -#17's entry in Daizenshu 4's Technology & Supernatural section

Since #17 and #18's cyborg enhancements are almost all done via biological means, it allows them to integrate into Cell's organic system better I guess.

BTW, #8 is a cyborg in the manga.
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Re: So what exactly makes "Perfect" Cell perfect?

Post by dbzfan7 » Wed May 22, 2013 9:08 pm

ringworm128 wrote:When Cell absorbs #18 all that really happens is that his appearance changes and he grows much stronger, apart from that there seems to be nothing special about his "perfect" form.
Because he had attained the Ultimate body and reached absolute peak strength (before zenkai). His ego probably is also why they call him Perfect Cell
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Post by Victorious » Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:30 pm

ringworm128 wrote:When Cell absorbs #18 all that really happens is that his appearance changes and he grows much stronger, apart from that there seems to be nothing special about his "perfect" form.
He's also superior to his other forms in "Power, speed, techniques, brains, and mental strength"

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Re: So what exactly makes "Perfect" Cell perfect?

Post by Cardle grave » Sun Jun 16, 2013 11:32 pm

His suppose to have all the skills,Techniques and traits of all the Z fighters and such. Thus making him perfect (Some how)

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Re: So what exactly makes "Perfect" Cell perfect?

Post by Saiga » Mon Jun 17, 2013 9:37 pm

I actually prefer "Complete" as the translation over "Perfect" but I know that calling him Perfect Cell is a habit I will likely never break.
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Re: So what exactly makes "Perfect" Cell perfect?

Post by Beercorn » Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:13 pm

First Form = Ugly and somewhat strong

Second Form = Ugly and really powerful

Perfect Form = Handsome and super powerful

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Re: So what exactly makes "Perfect" Cell perfect?

Post by dbzfan7 » Tue Jun 18, 2013 12:48 pm

He has a "perfect body". Krillin got the honor of feeling it first. Krillin won't admit it, but he knew just the feeling he got from cell was perfect.
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Re: So what exactly makes "Perfect" Cell perfect?

Post by Tzigi » Tue Jun 18, 2013 1:47 pm

I always assumed that it was rather word-for-word: perfect means completed. The computer could not manage to finish Cell (maybe Gero had only a small number of parts and no spares so he used the best for 18 and 17 and the computer could not get anything similar but it needed it to make Cell according to some blueprint) so it sent him to search for the rest of the parts that he was lacking. When he consumed those precise parts, he was finished - perfect.

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