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So Dabra could donate Ki here, but could he do it in the manga. Dabra is around half if you have him at SSJ2 level or a quarter at SSJ level. They could just use his ki several times until they have enough.
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Could someone please explain it to me? Babidi surely wasn`t that stupid in manga, where he clearly could see, that Goku didn`t beat Yakon simply by giving him energy, that`s one of things i don`t like in this specials, randomly nerfing characters, without any intelligent reason (Freeza: max. 200.000 in 1st form, making Dabura give energy, in a middle of a fight)
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Okay guys, let's play a game. It's called spot the bullshit! I'll go first:
1. Why the fuck did Babidi drain Dabura right before a fight? Why didn't he wait until after at the very least?
2. Why the fuck did Babidi drain SO MUCH of Dabura's energy? Seriously, even Anime Gohan is only about as strong as Android Arc Vegeta or Goku. We are talking a massive drain of Dabura to make him even with Gohan. Like over 90%. Why didn't he just drain the equivalent of Gohan's energy from Dabura which is less than 10% of Dabura's power?
3. Why the fuck did Babidi threaten Dabura with twice the punishment? He already drained over 90% of his energy. What else is he going to drain?
4. Why the fuck did Babidi even drain Dabura in the first place? For punishment? Babidi, Dabura is UNDER MIND CONTROL. He's 100% loyal.
5. Why the fuck did Babidi need Gohan's energy when he could just drain Dabura all along? Drain Dabura 50% (not life threatening in the least), let him nap, eat, and relax, then drain him again. Pod is filled in a week, tops.
6. Why the fuck did Babidi even initiate the Buu Saga if he could just drain Dabura all along? Pretty huge violation of the canon of the series that Salagir claims to love.
7. Why the fuck did Dabura even try to turn Gohan into stone in the first place?
8. Why the fuck did Dabura not tell Babidi how fucking stupid this was? He showed that he's not above that in the main series, when he warned Babidi about Fat Buu.
9. Why the fuck was this story necessary?
I think that's it. For now. Also, now that its's finished, I must say that the Yakon sequence is pure bullshit.
And Freeza being nerfed? Did I miss something?
1. Why the fuck did Babidi drain Dabura right before a fight? Why didn't he wait until after at the very least?
2. Why the fuck did Babidi drain SO MUCH of Dabura's energy? Seriously, even Anime Gohan is only about as strong as Android Arc Vegeta or Goku. We are talking a massive drain of Dabura to make him even with Gohan. Like over 90%. Why didn't he just drain the equivalent of Gohan's energy from Dabura which is less than 10% of Dabura's power?
3. Why the fuck did Babidi threaten Dabura with twice the punishment? He already drained over 90% of his energy. What else is he going to drain?
4. Why the fuck did Babidi even drain Dabura in the first place? For punishment? Babidi, Dabura is UNDER MIND CONTROL. He's 100% loyal.
5. Why the fuck did Babidi need Gohan's energy when he could just drain Dabura all along? Drain Dabura 50% (not life threatening in the least), let him nap, eat, and relax, then drain him again. Pod is filled in a week, tops.
6. Why the fuck did Babidi even initiate the Buu Saga if he could just drain Dabura all along? Pretty huge violation of the canon of the series that Salagir claims to love.
7. Why the fuck did Dabura even try to turn Gohan into stone in the first place?
8. Why the fuck did Dabura not tell Babidi how fucking stupid this was? He showed that he's not above that in the main series, when he warned Babidi about Fat Buu.
9. Why the fuck was this story necessary?
I think that's it. For now. Also, now that its's finished, I must say that the Yakon sequence is pure bullshit.
And Freeza being nerfed? Did I miss something?
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Hey, I'll join your game!
10. Why the fuck does Dabura's power even work? They needed the energy from good guys, and the demon king is anything but that!
10. Why the fuck does Dabura's power even work? They needed the energy from good guys, and the demon king is anything but that!
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Shnuki wrote:Hey, I'll join your game!
10. Why the fuck does Dabura's power even work? They needed the energy from good guys, and the demon king is anything but that!
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RandomGuy96: In Bardock Chapter special, Freeza was nerfed, so Oozaru Saiyans could beat him.
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lolScarz wrote:Yes, Babidi tried to get Gohan under his control (and failed). This part (as many other details) was removed from the comic to gain time and panels.
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How so?coola wrote:RandomGuy96: In Bardock Chapter special, Freeza was nerfed, so Oozaru Saiyans could beat him.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Something along the lines of "I'm gonna take this 530,000 power level and shave off a zero from it."RandomGuy96 wrote:How so?coola wrote:RandomGuy96: In Bardock Chapter special, Freeza was nerfed, so Oozaru Saiyans could beat him.
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I guess I should've seen that one comingDHM211 wrote:Shnuki wrote:Hey, I'll join your game!
10. Why the fuck does Dabura's power even work? They needed the energy from good guys, and the demon king is anything but that!
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...why?Kaboom wrote:Something along the lines of "I'm gonna take this 530,000 power level and shave off a zero from it."RandomGuy96 wrote:How so?coola wrote:RandomGuy96: In Bardock Chapter special, Freeza was nerfed, so Oozaru Saiyans could beat him.
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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That`s the point, nobody know why, he also made Dodoria 18.000, despite it being 21.000-22.000 in manga/anime, he changes stuff randomly, i wouldn`t be surprised, if at one point, he made Chaozu a strongest character, why? Because he wants so, and that should be enough explanation (sorry if this post sounds a little rude)
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If he like that he is one of those fans that are like "This is how I would write Dragon Ball if I was AT".
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You've got your answer here.RandomGuy96 wrote:...why?Kaboom wrote:
Something along the lines of "I'm gonna take this 530,000 power level and shave off a zero from it."
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Salgir has gone from cool fan with a nice story to stupid fan with too much freedom.
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Okay, I'm sure that Salagir has a perfectly reas-Tzigi wrote:You've got your answer here.RandomGuy96 wrote:...why?Kaboom wrote:
Something along the lines of "I'm gonna take this 530,000 power level and shave off a zero from it."
Freeza Power: as explained by Tzigi, 10 years ago, based on a french mistranlation, I imagined different powerlevels that I personnaly think fit better.
Anyway, I know it's wrong, it was even corrected in new french editions, and I don't use that in DBM.
For the oozaru, the x10 in oozaru form is non-canon and when you look at it, obviously completely wrong.
...Oozaru Nappa (somewhere between 50,000 and 80,000??)
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Either that or Gogeta Jr was containing him, but now he's gone.miguelnuva1 wrote:Salgir has gone from cool fan with a nice story to stupid fan with too much freedom.
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I don't recall it being stated they needed ki from the good guys. The only thing that was stated was that the pure hearted can avoid Babidi's mind control.Shnuki wrote:Hey, I'll join your game!
10. Why the fuck does Dabura's power even work? They needed the energy from good guys, and the demon king is anything but that!
I wonder why Dabra couldn't just give his ki to Boo in the manga.
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He probably could, but since his role is to protect Babidi and act as a bodyguard its pretty stupid to weaken him like that... Especially while in the middle of an attack, like in this special.
There are tons of beings and planets in the universe to collect energy from, but hardly anyone as strong as Dabura to protect Babidi from harm. Hence, why its stupid to use Dabura in that fashion.
In fact, excluding the Saiyans and Buu himself (and the villains of the new movie), there's no one that we know of stronger than Dabura, and that includes Babidi's primary enemy, the Kaioshin. Taking energy from Dabura and making him weaker than Kaioshin, or even close to his power, his primary enemy, is idiotic, even if its not in the middle of an attack.
There are tons of beings and planets in the universe to collect energy from, but hardly anyone as strong as Dabura to protect Babidi from harm. Hence, why its stupid to use Dabura in that fashion.
In fact, excluding the Saiyans and Buu himself (and the villains of the new movie), there's no one that we know of stronger than Dabura, and that includes Babidi's primary enemy, the Kaioshin. Taking energy from Dabura and making him weaker than Kaioshin, or even close to his power, his primary enemy, is idiotic, even if its not in the middle of an attack.
