Anyone feel like writing? Dragon Box Reprint

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Post by Ryuji-Otogi » Tue May 28, 2013 4:10 pm

TheGreatness25 wrote:Unfortunately, I really don't think that would do anything. I can see them replying with something like, "Sorry, we are focused on our Digitally Remastered Season 1-9 line at the moment. Thank you for your support and stay tuned!" I honestly can picture that being the response almost word for word. After everything with the Ultimate Uncut DVDs? They didn't react to that. Also, how many times did someone (myself included) try to get them to do a Perfect Cell Saga boxed release. Never happened. They don't respond to that. What they MAY do is tell you that there's another release coming, which will be either blu-ray or something else entirely.
Well, fans sent letters (and bitched and moaned on the Internet) when the orange bricks came out and FUNi hasn't cropped a Dragon Ball release since. And we never would have gotten the Dragon Boxes in the first place if it weren't for the vocal minority of fans who wanted them such as ourselves. And now all we need from them is to re-print a completed release, rather than to license the Dragon Box masters for the first time.

You're probably right. There isn't a great chance FUNi will actually oblige us, but that doesn't mean you shouldn't do what you can if there's a possibility they will. I understand why someone who's got all the sets already might not care. But if you're one of those suckers who didn't buy the boxes when they first came out and now you sorely want them, then sending a letter in the mail will certainly serve your interests and it takes hardly any time or effort.

Guess I can't make anyone do anything, just thought I'd try to get the word out. There are plenty of threads on here whining about the astronomically high-priced D-Boxes, and some are still desperately hoping their Amazon.ca orders will come through, but no one's really doing anything about it. We could send them a hundred letters and they might not do anything, but it doesn't hurt to try. :P

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Re: Anyone feel like writing? Dragon Box Reprint

Post by Pretorious » Tue May 28, 2013 5:29 pm

I have emailed them about it twice already. I don't think I have it in me to write another letter on the issue. I'm sure they know we want a non-limited edition, high-quality release. I wouldn't be surprised if they already have a strategy for such a release. I think it's more likely that they'll release a DB Dragon Box set than to re-release the Z sets though, unless they release a budget version of the Z boxes.

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Re: Anyone feel like writing? Dragon Box Reprint

Post by Fennekin » Tue May 28, 2013 7:25 pm

There has been a pretty large demand for these Dragon Boxes. But may I suggest making a thread about it on the FUNimation forum? It would probably draw more attention to the matter.

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Post by Ryuji-Otogi » Tue May 28, 2013 8:02 pm

Pretorious wrote:I have emailed them about it twice already. I don't think I have it in me to write another letter on the issue. I'm sure they know we want a non-limited edition, high-quality release. I wouldn't be surprised if they already have a strategy for such a release. I think it's more likely that they'll release a DB Dragon Box set than to re-release the Z sets though, unless they release a budget version of the Z boxes.
I think sending letters in the mail sends a stronger message, because it takes just a little more time and effort than typing up an email. But hey, it's something! And that would be sweet if they release Dragon Ball boxes. I think a re-print of the Z boxes might even accompany them if they do. Makes sense to me. While they're in the business of putting out more Dragon Boxes, they get the Z sets back out there for those who couldn't get them the first time and put more DB products on store shelves.

As far as the Z-boxes go; however, I really hope they just re-release the same sets as before. I've already got several of them and want to complete that lineup. And they look so much like the Japanese boxes it's delicious. :P I don't want cheap economy sets.
Fennekin wrote:There has been a pretty large demand for these Dragon Boxes. But may I suggest making a thread about it on the FUNimation forum? It would probably draw more attention to the matter.
Yeah, I meant to re-post over there too. Thing is, you've got more dub fans over there than you do here. Plus, the FUNi Forums really aren't as active as they used to be. I may as well go ahead and see what happens though.

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Post by TheGreatness25 » Tue May 28, 2013 9:27 pm

Am I wrong or is it true that the Dragon Box sales were just barely decent enough to justify not canceling the product line?

I can imagine FUNimation's confusion. To them, a bunch of people sat back and weren't willing to spend money on the release when it was released and now those same people demand that they re-release it? The people that already bought them are not very likely to buy them again. As for the people sending letters, where is the guarantee that they'd buy the release this time around? Sounds more like people are asking, "Hey, just keep them out long enough so that when I decide to buy it, I would." I'm not knocking anyone, but to FUNimation, it wouldn't make sense to consistently keep the Dragon Boxes in stores until people decide it's a good time to buy them.

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Post by Ryuji-Otogi » Tue May 28, 2013 9:47 pm

Who knows what the sales figures were. But plenty of DBZ releases have been out of print much longer and they're not $600, so there must be some demand for them. Maybe they could produce a limited supply of boxes and make them an 'order-online-only' product. Makes sense since they appeal to a minority of fans and the only people who know enough about the Boxes to care are those who use the Internet and are capable of online shopping. Plus, a reprint would make the second-hand market prices for the other boxes plunge way down to where they belong--so they wouldn't even need to produce a great deal. I don't know how feasible that really is from a business side of things, but I suppose it's possible. For example, Amazon sells online-exclusive Rugrats/Hey Arnold/CatDog DVDs that Nickelodeon apparently doesn't have enough faith in to put on store shelves. To account for the higher costs of making the DVDs on a smaller scale or on a per-order basis (versus mass production), they could hitch up the prices a bit. I think plenty of people would be willing to shell out $80 for Dragon Box 2 versus the $600 price scalpers are asking for now.

It's a shame that the Boxes didn't sell well enough, if that's true. You can blame the orange bricks for that. The Dragon Boxes were actually very economical. $40 for 40 episodes, plus the cases and box art are superb compared to the bricks. They're also much more affordable than anything that ever came out before the bricks, and are actually very similarly priced to what they were when they first came out. (like $30 for a 'season', or some 30 episodes). Make the dub the default audio track and the Boxes could have been the main line over here.

Anyway, I see what you're saying. Like I said, I don't think anyone's entitled to a re-release. They made it (somewhat) clear that the Boxes were a limited-time product when they first came out, and if FUNi doesn't give us a second chance then oh well. It may not make sense for them to oblige us and they most likely won't. But you never know. These kind of things always seem pretty hopeless. Can't blame a guy for trying. If you're sitting at home frowning at your incomplete Dragon Box collection and can't shell out five hundred bucks for the last few sets online, then why not take out a pen and paper? :P It's the closest thing you can get to doing something about it--other than not paying any of your bills for a month to buy some Japanese cartoons on DVD.

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Re: Anyone feel like writing? Dragon Box Reprint

Post by Haji » Wed May 29, 2013 1:35 am

You know it's madness in physical form when some people are trying to sell them for 100-900 dollars. And even more madness when people buy them at that price, come on i would rather move to Japan and buy the original Dragon Box's if i had that kind of money to throw around.
I remember when they came out but i never could find any, then when i did, money was a bit of a issue. Funimation should see this and print more already. It is almost as if they want to see if people will buy "over nine thousand" priced Dragon Box's

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Post by Ryuji-Otogi » Wed May 29, 2013 1:44 am

I found this on eBay (not my listing).

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dragonball-Z-Dr ... 1e7b457a1a


All seven Dragon Boxes for a Buy-It-Now price of $600, Or Best Offer (maybe he can go as low as $400?). That's still a big chunk of cash, but considering Dragon Box 2 by itself is running $400 to $800 (1 and 4 are getting pretty high too) that's actually a half decent deal if you can afford to shell out all that cash at once. Unfortunately I can't, so just thought I would share.

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Post by oXdanXo » Wed May 29, 2013 3:00 am

TheGreatness25 wrote:Am I wrong or is it true that the Dragon Box sales were just barely decent enough to justify not canceling the product line?

I can imagine FUNimation's confusion. To them, a bunch of people sat back and weren't willing to spend money on the release when it was released and now those same people demand that they re-release it? The people that already bought them are not very likely to buy them again. As for the people sending letters, where is the guarantee that they'd buy the release this time around? Sounds more like people are asking, "Hey, just keep them out long enough so that when I decide to buy it, I would." I'm not knocking anyone, but to FUNimation, it wouldn't make sense to consistently keep the Dragon Boxes in stores until people decide it's a good time to buy them.
No I think you're correct. That's the problem, most people who now want them with a passion didn't want them because they were waiting for a sale to take place when they could save more money and now only want a reprint so they don't have to pay the extortionate prices that the scalpers offer.
It wouldn't make sense for them money wise to re-print the series. But there is still the hope Amazon.ca pulls through.
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Post by Brodes » Wed May 29, 2013 5:37 am

DragonBoxZTheMovies wrote:You know, I wonder if Madman would reconsider putting these out, now that they're so rare. I emailed them recently and didn't get a response; probably because it was included among a ridiculous number of other questions. I might send another one over that exclusively relates to the Dragon Box and see how that goes.

Might shoot a physical letter over to Funimation too. They might take more notice of it, if it comes from the distant land that is NZ. :)
I believe Madman said that if anyone wants the Dragon Boxes, don't wait for Madman to release them (there'll be direct quotes somewhere on their forums). This was a while ago, so i can only imagine it's even more the case now.

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Post by DBZ Mick » Wed May 29, 2013 6:21 am

I just imported some Dragon Boxes, they work on our Region 4 players so...
It is in his character to be rude and a bit crass. He's a hick, with no formal education. That is Son Goku. That is who he is.

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Post by Brodes » Wed May 29, 2013 6:32 am

DBZ Mick wrote:I just imported some Dragon Boxes, they work on our Region 4 players so...
That would be because 98% of our DVD players are region free or have to have to option made available to us without physical modification. It's always been that way, and it's awesome.

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Post by DBZ Mick » Wed May 29, 2013 6:34 am

Well, they ARE actually Region 4 compatible, it says so on the actual boxes.
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It is in his character to be rude and a bit crass. He's a hick, with no formal education. That is Son Goku. That is who he is.

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Post by Brodes » Wed May 29, 2013 6:43 am

I think even the old singles were Region 2 & 4, but even without the '4', I bet you'd have no trouble. Unless you have a Sony player from 2001, then you're out of luck.

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Post by Ringworm128 » Wed May 29, 2013 9:20 pm

Personally I think a letter showing support for US releases of the other boxes or even a second chance for the Blu Rays would be a better use of pen ink. Then again like PT said, it's probably easy to say that since I got mine before it was too late.

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Post by TheGreatness25 » Thu May 30, 2013 4:59 pm

But that's the thing. You got yorus, I got mine, a lot of people got theirs. The people that missed the boat...nothing really prevented them from owning it. If they didn't want to buy them before, why do they want to buy them all of the sudden? I think the answer is simple...they don't. They just want the option of buying them right? Not to jump on anyone who missed the boat with the Dragon Box, but seriously, what prevented you from owning them before? And do those same reasons, in fact, not exist anymore?

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Post by OmegaRockman » Thu May 30, 2013 5:33 pm

TheGreatness25 wrote:But that's the thing. You got yorus, I got mine, a lot of people got theirs. The people that missed the boat...nothing really prevented them from owning it. If they didn't want to buy them before, why do they want to buy them all of the sudden? I think the answer is simple...they don't. They just want the option of buying them right? Not to jump on anyone who missed the boat with the Dragon Box, but seriously, what prevented you from owning them before? And do those same reasons, in fact, not exist anymore?
In my case, I had to choose between the Dragon Boxes or Kai because I was a high school student on a budget. I chose Kai because I thought it would be cheaper with less episodes to buy. I also thought that the Dragon Boxes were basically the replacement for the Orange Bricks so I could just buy them later on when I had a job. I didn't find out about their limited availability until I was halfway done with the Kai sets. So it was an error in judgement on my part, and I'm not afraid to admit that.
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Post by Brodes » Thu May 30, 2013 5:35 pm

TheGreatness25 wrote:But that's the thing. You got yorus, I got mine, a lot of people got theirs. The people that missed the boat...nothing really prevented them from owning it. If they didn't want to buy them before, why do they want to buy them all of the sudden? I think the answer is simple...they don't. They just want the option of buying them right? Not to jump on anyone who missed the boat with the Dragon Box, but seriously, what prevented you from owning them before? And do those same reasons, in fact, not exist anymore?
I made the decision to not be homeless and pay my bills rather than buy Dragon Boxes.

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Post by Ryuji-Otogi » Thu May 30, 2013 5:39 pm

TheGreatness25 wrote:But that's the thing. You got yorus, I got mine, a lot of people got theirs. The people that missed the boat...nothing really prevented them from owning it. If they didn't want to buy them before, why do they want to buy them all of the sudden? I think the answer is simple...they don't. They just want the option of buying them right? Not to jump on anyone who missed the boat with the Dragon Box, but seriously, what prevented you from owning them before? And do those same reasons, in fact, not exist anymore?
I had no idea they were a limited-time release before, and money was tight at the time. I've been lobbying for a Dragon Box release since 2006 when the orange bricks first debuted, and I've now bought four of them. What's stopping me from completing my collection now are $100 to $800 price tags for a few hard-to-come-by boxes, most notably the second.

Look at the 'Dragon Boxes coming in" thread. A bunch of people are desperately hoping their Amazon.ca orders will come through for D-Box 2. They're not sitting around complaining that they don't have the option to buy them. They are actually trying to buy the boxes and complete their collection. No offense, but your post is just bad. :(

I've said a bunch of times--I don't think anyone is entitled to a D-Box reprint. I missed the boat and I don't really blame FUNimation for it. That doesn't mean we can't try to persuade them though. This thread isn't some silly, indignant online petition or anything. Just some fans who really really want the boxes and are willing to humbly request that we get a second chance to buy the best version of Dragon Ball Z on store shelves. No one's crying injustice and demanding that FUNi oblige us.

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Post by Brodes » Thu May 30, 2013 6:35 pm

Ryuji-Otogi wrote:
TheGreatness25 wrote:But that's the thing. You got yorus, I got mine, a lot of people got theirs. The people that missed the boat...nothing really prevented them from owning it. If they didn't want to buy them before, why do they want to buy them all of the sudden? I think the answer is simple...they don't. They just want the option of buying them right? Not to jump on anyone who missed the boat with the Dragon Box, but seriously, what prevented you from owning them before? And do those same reasons, in fact, not exist anymore?
I had no idea they were a limited-time release before.
Yeah, actually, neither did I. I really don't remember it being mentioned at the time by Funimation.

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