What if Dragonball had been made as an American cartoon?

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Re: What if Dragonball had been made as an American cartoon?

Post by Hellspawn28 » Mon May 27, 2013 2:44 pm

ringworm128 wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:If it was the 80's then they would remove all references of death .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umwZ8qVorwo
Okay other then that one, it seem like most shows from that time remove references of death from what I've seen. Voltron didn't had characters die unlike GoLion from what I can remember.
Fennekin wrote:It would depend. Are we talking about a 1990-2000 American Cartoon or the current kind of American Cartoon seen on TV today?
Going by the title by this thread then maybe the 80's since Dragon Ball started in 1984.
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Re: What if Dragonball had been made as an American cartoon?

Post by Big Momma » Mon May 27, 2013 5:11 pm

ABED wrote: Not every cartoon was the Ninja Turtles!
Brodes wrote: Good to know you've seen so many types of cartoons and have clearly thought about this. No, wait, I mean the opposite. Not every cartoon is bloody He-Man.
I think the fact that his theory reminds you both of different cartoons from that timeframe speaks volumes. :lol:
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Re: What if Dragonball had been made as an American cartoon?

Post by ABED » Mon May 27, 2013 8:28 pm

Big Momma wrote:
ABED wrote: Not every cartoon was the Ninja Turtles!
Brodes wrote: Good to know you've seen so many types of cartoons and have clearly thought about this. No, wait, I mean the opposite. Not every cartoon is bloody He-Man.
I think the fact that his theory reminds you both of different cartoons from that timeframe speaks volumes. :lol:
No, it just means that I watched Ninja Turtles, but what kid didn't?
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Re: What if Dragonball had been made as an American cartoon?

Post by Super Sonic » Mon May 27, 2013 8:33 pm

Hellspawn28 wrote:
ringworm128 wrote:
Hellspawn28 wrote:If it was the 80's then they would remove all references of death .
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umwZ8qVorwo
Okay other then that one, it seem like most shows from that time remove references of death from what I've seen. Voltron didn't had characters die unlike GoLion from what I can remember.
There were a few, but mostly not a lot, with one death being changed in its circumstances. In GoLion, King Alfor was executed along with his wife and children by Zarkon's order, whereas in Voltron he was killed in an offscreen duel with Zarkon, so he went out fighting there. Also due to the episodes made for America, that's why the villains just went into exile rather than being killed in the last eps that were originally GoLion.

And while I've never seen Macross, and I haven't watched a lot of Robotech since the 80s, I recall hearing that some guys bit it in Robotech but didn't in Macross. Similar to some guys getting offed in PR, but not their Sentai counterparts. (Yeah that's more of an adaptation change similar to Maria surviving but Juliet not, but still).

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Re: What if Dragonball had been made as an American cartoon?

Post by Big Momma » Tue May 28, 2013 10:50 am

ABED wrote: No, it just means that I watched Ninja Turtles, but what kid didn't?
My post didn't have anything to do with who did/didn't watch TMNT :/

When aarondirebear posted his description of what it might be, you both replied:

ABED wrote: Not every cartoon was the Ninja Turtles!
Brodes wrote: Not every cartoon is bloody He-Man.
That led me to believe that his "typical 80s cartoon" description reminded you both of two separate 80s cartoons, which gave a tiny bit of credibility to it. And I found that pretty funny :lol:
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Re: What if Dragonball had been made as an American cartoon?

Post by ABED » Tue May 28, 2013 11:08 am

Those were two of the biggest cartoons of that era, not neccessarily typical. Again, not every cartoon were TMNT or He-Man even in the 80s, and there's such a thing as bucking a trend. He-Man was the cartoon that spawned from a toyline, not TMNT. This thread just seems like "hey, let's bash American cartoons." It reminds me of those conversations when people compare American TV and British TV. So many people seem to love to put down American TV. If it's American, it's somehow inferior.

Yes, American cartoons did have a tendency to have stand alone plots, but the very nature of Dragon Ball was that of a quest, so there would still be an overarching plot to it. I don't think status quo would always be maintained. There are only 7 dragon balls. DB was based on a manga that relied heavily on continuity. Are we assuming Dragon Ball starts out as a cartoon? This seems so silly and just an excuse to bash American cartoons.

As for American cartoons not showing or discussing death, the final episode of David the Gnome had David and his wife dying.
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Re: What if Dragonball had been made as an American cartoon?

Post by Rocketman » Tue May 28, 2013 8:59 pm

I remember a few adventure-y cartoons back in the day, so the Dragon Ball Hunt would probably be the overarching plot of the series.

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Re: What if Dragonball had been made as an American cartoon?

Post by Kid Buu » Tue May 28, 2013 10:10 pm

Rocketman wrote:I remember a few adventure-y cartoons back in the day, so the Dragon Ball Hunt would probably be the overarching plot of the series.
I wonder if it'd be like Jackie Chan Adventures's hunt?
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Re: What if Dragonball had been made as an American cartoon?

Post by Big Momma » Wed May 29, 2013 4:31 pm

ABED wrote:Those were two of the biggest cartoons of that era, not neccessarily typical. Again, not every cartoon were TMNT or He-Man even in the 80s, and there's such a thing as bucking a trend. He-Man was the cartoon that spawned from a toyline, not TMNT. This thread just seems like "hey, let's bash American cartoons." It reminds me of those conversations when people compare American TV and British TV. So many people seem to love to put down American TV. If it's American, it's somehow inferior.

Yes, American cartoons did have a tendency to have stand alone plots, but the very nature of Dragon Ball was that of a quest, so there would still be an overarching plot to it. I don't think status quo would always be maintained. There are only 7 dragon balls. DB was based on a manga that relied heavily on continuity. Are we assuming Dragon Ball starts out as a cartoon? This seems so silly and just an excuse to bash American cartoons.

As for American cartoons not showing or discussing death, the final episode of David the Gnome had David and his wife dying.
I'm American. I grew up with those cartoons, and I love them. (Heck, I even have the first few volumes of TMNT on DVD...which reminds me I need to get the rest) But you can't deny that, much like anime, American cartoons (especially ones from the "Saturday Morning" era) have their own "tropes" and whatnot that show up in a lot of those shows. It's not a bad thing in the least. It just makes sense to guess that an "Americanized" Dragon Ball in 1980s America would also have many of those tropes.
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Re: What if Dragonball had been made as an American cartoon?

Post by The Iron Fjord » Thu May 30, 2013 11:58 am

It would be like a cheesy 90's action cartoon, kinda like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJ2BxI_twLU
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Re: What if Dragonball had been made as an American cartoon?

Post by aarondirebear » Fri May 31, 2013 12:29 pm

There are many more examples than just He-Man and Ninja Turtles. Hey remember that episode of Tale Spin where Baloo finally got his plane back and it WASN'T suddenly taken away from him again by the end of the episode? Golly, I sure don't!
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Re: What if Dragonball had been made as an American cartoon?

Post by aarondirebear » Fri May 31, 2013 12:50 pm

Kid Buu wrote:
Rocketman wrote:I remember a few adventure-y cartoons back in the day, so the Dragon Ball Hunt would probably be the overarching plot of the series.
I wonder if it'd be like Jackie Chan Adventures's hunt?
Not if we are still talking 80s'...last I checked, Jackie Chan Adventures was mid-90's.
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Re: What if Dragonball had been made as an American cartoon?

Post by Super Sonic » Fri May 31, 2013 9:29 pm

aarondirebear wrote:
Kid Buu wrote:
Rocketman wrote:I remember a few adventure-y cartoons back in the day, so the Dragon Ball Hunt would probably be the overarching plot of the series.
I wonder if it'd be like Jackie Chan Adventures's hunt?
Not if we are still talking 80s'...last I checked, Jackie Chan Adventures was mid-90's.
2000-2005 actually. Whichever it would've gone, hopefully it would've been better than these abominations thatthankfully never got made.

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