Most Useless Character

[Kid Buu]

One could argue the Saiyans after pretty useless after Freeza, they seem to assist the villains more than defeat them.

[RandomGuy96]

They still have an impact on the story, though.

[Kid Buu]

In that case, yeah I'd agree with you that's probably King Cold,

[Godo]

Ox King. He does not do much and is a part of the main cast.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Yamucha:

- Loses to Goku
- Loses to Jackie Chun
- Loses to the Mummy
- Loses (badly) to Tenshinhan
- Loses to Tambourine
- Loses to Shen
- Loses to a Saibaman
- Loses to Artificial Human 20/Dr. Gero (never had a chance)
- Loses to a Cell Junior
- Loses Bulma to Vegeta
- Doesn't have the decency to go live in isolation after becoming irrelevant, like Tenshinhan and Chaozu did, despite being much weaker than them

Add "Loses his job", as we learned recently from Toriyama.

[DBZAOTA482]

One could argue the Saiyans after pretty useless after Freeza, they seem to assist the villains more than defeat them.

That's definitely true for the Boo Saga but in the Cell Saga, it wasn't quite as bad. None of the Saiyans were actively aiding the enemy other than Vegeta and there he was still an anti-hero. I mean, remember Future Trunks, the only rational character in the entire fucking series? Also, Vegeta was the only character who wasn't stricken with the case of the stupid in the Boo Saga.

Yamucha:

- Loses to Goku
- Loses to Jackie Chun
- Loses to the Mummy
- Loses (badly) to Tenshinhan
- Loses to Tambourine
- Loses to Shen
- Loses to a Saibaman
- Loses to Artificial Human 20/Dr. Gero (never had a chance)
- Loses to a Cell Junior
- Loses Bulma to Vegeta
- Doesn't have the decency to go live in isolation after becoming irrelevant, like Tenshinhan and Chaozu did, despite being much weaker than them

Add "Loses his job", as we learned recently from Toriyama.

Wow, sooner and later he's going to lose his life eventually...serious it's hanging by the thread.

Ox King. He does not do much and is a part of the main cast.

But without him there wouldn't be a Chi-Chi and Chi-Chi definitely wasn't useless.


Anyways, I'd say Kaioshin. Not only was he useless but he managed to make matters worse by turning a simple situation into a complete mess (on top of being a serious whiner). I don't blame Vegeta for raging out since he had to listen to his whining.

[DBZGTKOSDH]

Yamucha:

- Loses to Goku
- Loses to Jackie Chun
- Loses to the Mummy
- Loses (badly) to Tenshinhan
- Loses to Tambourine
- Loses to Shen
- Loses to a Saibaman
- Loses to Artificial Human 20/Dr. Gero (never had a chance)
- Loses to a Cell Junior
- Loses Bulma to Vegeta
- Doesn't have the decency to go live in isolation after becoming irrelevant, like Tenshinhan and Chaozu did, despite being much weaker than them

Add "Loses his job", as we learned recently from Toriyama.

Wow, sooner and later he's going to lose his life eventually...serious it's hanging by the thread.

Hell, he even lost his life twice!

[IIMaxII]

If we're talking about Z, I'm going to go with Chaozu. If DB...then no one...taking any character out of DB would ruin a few jokes.

[RandomGuy96]

Anyways, I'd say Kaioshin. Not only was he useless but he managed to make matters worse by turning a simple situation into a complete mess (on top of being a serious whiner). I don't blame Vegeta for raging out since he had to listen to his whining.

The mess was almost entirely Vegeta's and Goku's fault. Kaioshin at least warned everyone about Buu, brought Gohan to the world of the kais, and saved Gohan from Fat Buu. Pretty sure he also did something useful with teleportation in the final battle too.

[Kid Buu]

One could argue the Saiyans after pretty useless after Freeza, they seem to assist the villains more than defeat them.

That's definitely true for the Boo Saga but in the Cell Saga, it wasn't quite as bad. None of the Saiyans were actively aiding the enemy other than Vegeta and there he was still an anti-hero. I mean, remember Future Trunks, the only rational character in the entire fucking series? Also, Vegeta was the only character who wasn't stricken with the case of the stupid in the Boo Saga.

Not as bad in the Cell arc, but still there

-Goku & Vegeta want the Androids to be activated
-Vegeta lets Cell become complete
-Goku give Cell a Senzu Bean

[DBZAOTA482]

Anyways, I'd say Kaioshin. Not only was he useless but he managed to make matters worse by turning a simple situation into a complete mess (on top of being a serious whiner). I don't blame Vegeta for raging out since he had to listen to his whining.

The mess was almost entirely Vegeta's and Goku's fault. Kaioshin at least warned everyone about Buu, brought Gohan to the world of the kais, and saved Gohan from Fat Buu. Pretty sure he also did something useful with teleportation in the final battle too.

Instantaneous Transmission is Kibito's technique not Kaioshin so basically all Kaioshin did was save Gohan's life from Majin Boo (which was his fault to begin with). Otherwise, he might as well have an M on his forehead and work for Babidi for the help he was. If he had allowed Gohan to fight off Spopovich and Yamu then allowed the Saiyans to blow Babidi's spaceship to kingdom come with only the risk of fighting a very weakened Majin Boo...none of that shit would have happened.

One could argue the Saiyans after pretty useless after Freeza, they seem to assist the villains more than defeat them.

That's definitely true for the Boo Saga but in the Cell Saga, it wasn't quite as bad. None of the Saiyans were actively aiding the enemy other than Vegeta and there he was still an anti-hero. I mean, remember Future Trunks, the only rational character in the entire fucking series? Also, Vegeta was the only character who wasn't stricken with the case of the stupid in the Boo Saga.

Not as bad in the Cell arc, but still there

-Goku & Vegeta want the Androids to be activated
-Vegeta lets Cell become complete
-Goku give Cell a Senzu Bean

1. Fair point but Goku and Kuririn did raise some good counter-arguments there. Kuririn said they needed a common enemy to kindle a bond because It was uncertain if Vegeta or Piccolo may go off the handle and try to conquer/demolish the world. Not mention killing a weak human who oppose no immediate threat is morally wrong.
2. That's true.
3. That was part of the plan. Goku wanted Cell to push and provoke Gohan with total confidence. You know, to appeal to his Egotistical idea that he was perfect and unbeatable and have him do stupid shit to rile Gohan up, which he did,

[Kamiccolo9]

Anyways, I'd say Kaioshin. Not only was he useless but he managed to make matters worse by turning a simple situation into a complete mess (on top of being a serious whiner). I don't blame Vegeta for raging out since he had to listen to his whining.

The mess was almost entirely Vegeta's and Goku's fault. Kaioshin at least warned everyone about Buu, brought Gohan to the world of the kais, and saved Gohan from Fat Buu. Pretty sure he also did something useful with teleportation in the final battle too.

Instantaneous Transmission is Kibito's technique not Kaioshin so basically all Kaioshin did was save Gohan's life from Majin Boo (which was his fault to begin with). Otherwise, he might as well have an M on his forehead and work for Babidi for the help he was. If he had allowed Gohan to fight off Spopovich and Yamu then allowed the Saiyans to blow Babidi's spaceship to kingdom come with only the risk of fighting a very weakened Majin Boo...none of that shit would have happened.

The Z sword thing was his idea though. Kibito wouldn't have let Gohan touch it. And if it weren't for him chucking the katchin at Gohan, then the Old Kaioshin would have remained stuck in the Z sword.

[Kid Buu]

1. Fair point but Goku and Kuririn did raise some good counter-arguments there. Kuririn said they needed a common enemy to kindle a bond because It was uncertain if Vegeta or Piccolo may go off the handle and try to conquer/demolish the world. Not mention killing a weak human who oppose no immediate threat is morally wrong.
2. That's true.
3. That was part of the plan. Goku wanted Cell to push and provoke Gohan with total confidence. You know, to appeal to his Egotistical idea that he was perfect and unbeatable and have him do stupid shit to rile Gohan up, which he did,

Fair enough, I agree their Cell Arc mistakes are a lot more rational than their Buu arc mistakes.

[TheGmGoken]

This is going to come to a major shock I know. But not counting his episode of Bardock series. I'll say Bardock. Even if he hadn't tried to face Freeza. Planet Vegeta would have been destroyed and the series will continue to go on. Bardock's crew was more important then Bardock. Sorry but it's true. But if you count EOB then I'll have to say Bulma mother or Chaozu. I mean even if Chaozu was never there Tien would have died still. Just in a more brutal way ^_^ .

[Kamiccolo9]

This is going to come to a major shock I know. But not counting his episode of Bardock series. I'll say Bardock. Even if he hadn't tried to face Freeza. Planet Vegeta would have been destroyed and the series will continue to go on. Bardock's crew was more important then Bardock. Sorry but it's true. But if you count EOB then I'll have to say Bulma mother or Chaozu. I mean even if Chaozu was never there Tenshinhan would have died still. Just in a more brutal way ^_^ .

You know, I never even considered him, but you have a really good point. Bardock never really influenced anything, and after he died, no one except Freeza, Zarbon, Dodoria, and Raditz even knew who he was. He definitely never influenced Goku in any way.

[RandomGuy96]

"If we don't count that time that Bardock had an impact on the story, then Bardock has no impact on the story".

And what are you talking about? Vegeta knew him. He had a mild distaste for him because he was just an average fighter.

[Kamiccolo9]

"If we don't count that time that Bardock had an impact on the story, then Bardock has no impact on the story".

Well, it depends on how you count Episode of Bardock. Bardock doesn't really affect anything if you don't consider EOB canon to the story.
The funny thing though, is Bardock was a pretty popular character even before EOB, and yet his actions didn't really contribute anything to the story.

[RandomGuy96]

I honestly have no idea why Bardock is so popular, and it still amuses me to think that the legendary Super Saiyan is weaker than Freeza's second form.

[TheGmGoken]

I honestly have no idea why Bardock is so popular, and it still amuses me to think that the legendary Super Saiyan is weaker than Freeza's second form.

What's even more funny is that Freeza was so scarred over someone who beat Chilled but weaker then your second Form. Freeza was scarred of a weak person lol.

[TheGmGoken]

"If we don't count that time that Bardock had an impact on the story, then Bardock has no impact on the story".

And what are you talking about? Vegeta knew him. He had a mild distaste for him because he was just an average fighter.

I thought him being an average fighter was an ocean dub quote. I thought he was a low-class but had great power. Vegeta knowing Bardock doesn't impact the story. VEgeta didn't even mention him till a filler clip. And even that was just mostly Vegeta words to Goku. At most Bardock killed his own race counting EOB. Not counting EOB then......what did he do? Die?