Super Saiyan God <=> Vegetto?

[Draken]

Lolno. SSJ2 Adolescent Gohan is a lot weaker than SSJ2 Kid Gohan and Broly actually did have trouble with SSJ2 Gohan. Gohan breaking Broly's hold is a good example. SSJ2 Kid Gohan and SPC would both ROFLstomp M10 Broly.

What troubles? He just got flinched twice

Cell can't tank a punch and three shot Gohan

Broly is stronger, deal with it

Maybe in your universe. Not in mine nor TMO's.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Lolno. SSJ2 Adolescent Gohan is a lot weaker than SSJ2 Kid Gohan and Broly actually did have trouble with SSJ2 Gohan. Gohan breaking Broly's hold is a good example. SSJ2 Kid Gohan and SPC would both ROFLstomp M10 Broly.

What troubles? He just got flinched twice

Cell can't tank a punch and three shot Gohan

Broly is stronger, deal with it

Do you even watch the films before talking? I'm starting to think otherwise because you completely missed the part where Broly couldn't keep Gohan in a hold because he overpowered Broly. Yeah and Broly couldn't hit Kid Gohan and break his arm with a small Ki blast. Cell > Broly, deal with it.

[Cardle grave]

I find it amazing that flinching (LOL Flinching) is considered such a big deal. Broly crushes SSJ2 kid gohan and SPC on the same night. Add SSj2 goku for the lols he would crush him too.

[VegettoEX]

Account strike(s) and temporary ban issued.

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[TheMightyOzaru]

I find it amazing that flinching (LOL Flinching) is considered such a big deal. Broly crushes SSJ2 kid gohan and SPC on the same night. Add SSj2 goku for the lols he would crush him too.

I don't see how you come to such a conclusion. First of all, Gohan was actually capable of breaking Broly's hold. He moved Broly against his will, they aren't too far apart. Kid Gohan is a lot stronger than that Gohan and Super Perfect Cell is equal to if not stronger, disregarding his final rage boost that killed Cell. SSJ2 Goku would lobotomize Broly easily. I also know you're quite the Broly fan so please don't let your bias for the character cloud the evidence.

[RandomGuy96]

SPC would tool Broly, but I see them as equals in power.

[TheMightyOzaru]

Cell could also get a Zenkai mid battle or blow up the planet. It's an easy victory for him even if he is weaker.

[Cardle grave]

I find it amazing that flinching (LOL Flinching) is considered such a big deal. Broly crushes SSJ2 kid gohan and SPC on the same night. Add SSj2 goku for the lols he would crush him too.

I don't see how you come to such a conclusion. First of all, Gohan was actually capable of breaking Broly's hold. He moved Broly against his will, they aren't too far apart.
Kid Gohan is a lot stronger than that Gohan and Super Perfect Cell is equal to if not stronger, disregarding his final rage boost that killed Cell.
SSJ2 Goku would lobotomize Broly easily. I also know you're quite the Broly fan so please don't let your bias for the character cloud the evidence.

This is movie 10 gohan not Manga gohan, And the gap between goku and gohan is not even close to 3 shotting to victory. broly would crushes SSJ2 goku, Since him and his 2 Sons Kamehameha done nothing but push the legend. broly so far ahead of gohan to the point he said lava was the only way to beat him, Meaning His own kamehameha or maseko would of be useless against him. Broly 3 shot him, And him breaking the hold is more of a plot for the lava scene. Scene broly tanked a full force punch to the face but move form a knee

Do the maths, 1 SSj2 kamehameha destroyed cell. 2 SSj2 and SSJ kamehameha pushed Broly


Not rocket science to know the massive power difference

[Zephyr]

There's really no indication as to how Broly would compare to Cell. Don't see the point in arguing one way or another when there's flimsy evidence at best for either conclusion.

[Kamiccolo9]

I believe that there is a Daizenshuu quote saying that Broly is the strongest Saiyan at the time of movie 10, but whether that includes Vegeta, who did not appear in the movie, and Goku, who is dead, is unclear, so take that as you will.

[Cardle grave]

Broli is the first enemy to appear three times in the movies. We asked the producer Moris***a Kouzou the reason for this... "Broli was just that strong, so at the end of "Burn Up!!~"(Broly Movie , I figured he wasn't dead. At any rate, it's because he was set up as the "STRONGEST" Saiyan." If you think about Goku and Vegeta's life force, I guess you can also grasp the tenaciousness of the Legendary Super Saiyan Broli?

~Daizenshuu Book 6 ~


Strongest saiyan form Movie 8-Movie 11

[DBZGTKOSDH]

The only thing that Gohan could do to Broli was only to break his hold. Gohan punched Broli in his face, and he just smiled. I doubt Cell, angry Gohan, or even SS2 Goku could beat Broli alone.

[Kamiccolo9]

Broli is the first enemy to appear three times in the movies. We asked the producer Moris***a Kouzou the reason for this... "Broli was just that strong, so at the end of "Burn Up!!~"(Broly Movie , I figured he wasn't dead. At any rate, it's because he was set up as the "STRONGEST" Saiyan." If you think about Goku and Vegeta's life force, I guess you can also grasp the tenaciousness of the Legendary Super Saiyan Broli?

~Daizenshuu Book 6 ~


Strongest saiyan form Movie 8-Movie 11

Yeah, that's it. It seems like Broly was at least intended to be stronger than Gohan, Goku, and Vegeta.
Although I wouldn't count Bio Broly from movie 11. He doesn't seem to be on the same level as movie 10 Broly, or possibly even movie 8.

[TheMightyOzaru]

except he isn't the strongest. SSJ3 Goku still exists. This is obviously referring to Movie 8 when he is being regarded as the strongest. Furthermore Gohan still overpowered Broly. Obviously Broly is stronger but he isn't that much stronger since he could actually budge and overpower Broly. SSJ2 Kid Gohan is a lot stronger than M10 Gohan so he, from where I stand, can beat Broly easy. Cell is equal to if not stronger than that Gohan, until he get's that final rage boost of course, so he beats Broly too. SSJ2 Goku would ROFLstomp the ladder so he would crush Broly as well. The reason Broly was only budged by the Kamehameha at the end was because he put up a Barrier. a Barrier is a concentrated Ki technique that allows you to increase your defense depending how much is concentrated. This allowed him to resist for a bit but he is ultimately done in.

[Draken]

Wait, how does this relate to SSG and Vegetto again?

[TheMightyOzaru]

Wait, how does this relate to SSG and Vegetto again?

Oh well a Barrier is involved in this and that's one of Vegetto's viable techniques and... yeah let's get back on subject .

[Kamiccolo9]

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except he isn't the strongest. SSJ3 Goku still exists. This is obviously referring to Movie 8 when he is being regarded as the strongest. Furthermore Gohan still overpowered Broly. Obviously Broly is stronger but he isn't that much stronger since he could actually budge and overpower Broly. SSJ2 Kid Gohan is a lot stronger than M10 Gohan so he, from where I stand, can beat Broly easy. Cell is equal to if not stronger than that Gohan, until he get's that final rage boost of course, so he beats Broly too. SSJ2 Goku would ROFLstomp the ladder so he would crush Broly as well. The reason Broly was only budged by the Kamehameha at the end was because he put up a Barrier. a Barrier is a concentrated Ki technique that allows you to increase your defense depending how much is concentrated. This allowed him to resist for a bit but he is ultimately done in.

Seeing as Goku only went SSJ2 for the Kamehameha, you can argue that Goku hasn't achieved SSJ3 by this time. As far as being able to budge Broly, this happened in movie 10 a lot. Base Gohan actually hurt SSJ Broly, Videl managed to budge his head with a kick, Base Gohan managed do deflect SSJ Broly's attack, and Base Gohan surviving a point blank ki attack to the stomach from LSSJ Broly. Broly dominated the entire fight in his LSSJ state, apart from Gohan getting out of his hold. Since the power feats tend to be inconsistent in this movie, I'm just gonna go with what the Daizenshuu interview says, and assume that Broly is the strongest Saiyan at the time, not taking SSJ3 Goku into account, since he's obviously stronger, but possibly did not exist in the movie. You're more than welcome to think what you want though, this is just my opinion

Wait, how does this relate to SSG and Vegetto again?

Well, Vegetto's power is maximum, and for some reason this quote gets attributed to Broly, so there's a correlation there

[miguelnuva1]

SSJ2 Goku did not appear or exist in the manga when M10 came out.

SSJ2 Goku> LSSJ Broly(M10)>SSJ2 Gohan.

[TheMightyOzaru]

SSJ2 Goku did not appear or exist in the manga when M10 came out.

SSJ2 Goku> LSSJ Broly(M10)>SSJ2 Gohan.

I would tend to argue that Goku went SSJ2 along with Gohan when Goku said NOW!

[Kamiccolo9]

SSJ2 Goku did not appear or exist in the manga when M10 came out.

SSJ2 Goku> LSSJ Broly(M10)>SSJ2 Gohan.

Actually, he did. Movie 10 came out on March 12, 1994. SSJ2 Goku appeared in February. The manga was halfway through the SSJ2 Goku vs Majin Vegeta fight when the movie came out.