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Death Battle! Goku VS Superman Disscussion Thread
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Vegeta: "Funny... I seem to recall Kakarot being fed the same information right before he transformed; the distinct look on your faces when he went Super Saiyan didn't exactly inspire confidence. One does not predict or calculate power like ours."
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Or Comics God is nerfed compared to Bible god...
Wait, if Spawn can kill God why does he still use guns!?
Wait, if Spawn can kill God why does he still use guns!?
The Monkey King wrote:It was actually Beerus disguised as Zarbon #StayWokeRandomGuy96 wrote:He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.dbgtFO wrote: Please elaborate as I do not know what you mean by "pushing Vegeta's destruction"
Herms wrote:The fact that the ridiculous power inflation is presented so earnestly makes me just roll my eyes and snicker. Like with Freeza, where he starts off over 10 times stronger than all his henchmen except Ginyu (because...well, just because), then we find out he can transform and get even more powerful, and then he reveals he can transform two more times, before finally coming out with the fact that he hasn't even been using anywhere near 50% of his power. Oh, and he can survive in the vacuum of space. All this stuff is just presented as the way Freeza is, without even an attempt at rationalizing it, yet the tone dictates we're supposed to take all this silly grasping at straws as thrilling danger. So I guess I don't really take the power inflation in the Boo arc seriously, but I don't take the power inflation in earlier arcs seriously either, so there's no net loss of seriousness. I think a silly story presented as serious is harder to accept than a silly story presented as silly.
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Probably because he was trained to use guns even though I find that stupid as godly powers are so much better.RandomGuy96 wrote:Or Comics God is nerfed compared to Bible god...
Wait, if Spawn can kill God why does he still use guns!?
Why Dragon Ball Consistency in something such as power levels matter!
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He used guns earlier in the comics when he still had his necroplasm clock and it was easier to use guns in order to save time on his clock otherwise he would be send back to hell. Also Spawn didn't kill god, during the Armageddon arc he send both God and Satan into another universe since they were both completely immortal.RandomGuy96 wrote:
Wait, if Spawn can kill God why does he still use guns!?
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That's still bull shit. God created everything.... He can make his way out of some universe especially since he is supposed to posses Omnipotence.Hellspawn28 wrote:He used guns earlier in the comics when he still had his necroplasm clock and it was easier to use guns in order to save time on his clock otherwise he would be send back to hell. Also Spawn didn't kill god, during the Armageddon arc he send both God and Satan into another universe since they were both completely immortal.RandomGuy96 wrote:
Wait, if Spawn can kill God why does he still use guns!?
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M.O.M created everything in the Image omniverse and God is just the ruler of heaven. Both God and Satan were strong enough to destroy the universe and Spawn got god powers from M.O.M allowing him to be equal to both of them. Spawn give up his god powers after the Aramgeddon arc was over. I have no idea how strong current Spawn is because I stop reading around issue #203 or 204 because I didn't like the new direction that the story was going. King of Hell arc Spawn and God Spawn are his strongest forms from what I can remember.
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They added someone above God? Ok....
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Mom is more like the God from the bible and God himself is more akin to just the opposite of the devil.TheMightyOzaru wrote:They added someone above God? Ok....
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Interesting...miguelnuva1 wrote:Mom is more like the God from the bible and God himself is more akin to just the opposite of the devil.TheMightyOzaru wrote:They added someone above God? Ok....
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Hellspawn28 wrote:M.O.M created everything in the Image omniverse and God is just the ruler of heaven. Both God and Satan were strong enough to destroy the universe and Spawn got god powers from M.O.M allowing him to be equal to both of them. Spawn give up his god powers after the Aramgeddon arc was over. I have no idea how strong current Spawn is because I stop reading around issue #203 or 204 because I didn't like the new direction that the story was going. King of Hell arc Spawn and God Spawn are his strongest forms from what I can remember.
Wow! That makes the powerups in One Piece look like nothing!
DBZ's the only anime with powerups that even match those of Spawn in terms of craziness.
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DBZ characters don't make drastic jumps though. Spawn goes from being some buffed Hellspawn that finds guns to be effective to someone capable of wiping out the entire universe. DBZ goes from boulder busters to Star/Solar System busters in a relatively steady power scaling process.GS7X7 wrote:Hellspawn28 wrote:M.O.M created everything in the Image omniverse and God is just the ruler of heaven. Both God and Satan were strong enough to destroy the universe and Spawn got god powers from M.O.M allowing him to be equal to both of them. Spawn give up his god powers after the Aramgeddon arc was over. I have no idea how strong current Spawn is because I stop reading around issue #203 or 204 because I didn't like the new direction that the story was going. King of Hell arc Spawn and God Spawn are his strongest forms from what I can remember.
Wow! That makes the powerups in One Piece look like nothing!![]()
DBZ's the only anime with powerups that even match those of Spawn in terms of craziness.
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Kami isn't supposed to be Omnipotent though.
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And neither is anyone who can be defeated against one's own will. Or can he? Paradoxical omnipotence yey.
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Comics are so confusing sometimes, even some games like dragon quest kill God like he's a normal foe in an rpg madness lol.TheMightyOzaru wrote:I am still baffled at how he got away with killing GOD! The dude is Omnipotent, he is the epitome of someone who cannot be defeated.
The Christian God has omnipotence, omniscience and is omnipresent, comics usually only provide omniscience for a chance at him but they still lack all the other aspects of his personality, in my opinion God should be left alone in comics, because if he maintains all the aspects of his personality, anything else in the universe would in a worse disadvantage than an ant. and that's saying a lot lol. Power is too power hungry these days, I prefer stories with great emotional impact rather than god buster crappy power hungry tales.
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But if they don't kill Jehovah, how are you gonna know how super-cool atheist they are?
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Atheist, Christians, they can be pretty much the same, there are jerks among both ranks. sometimes people just want to kill god off in their stories to offend other people. I find that repulsive lol, there are close minded fools in all of those ranks, I myself respect everything regarding God. if I have to go against someone it's against jerks. but even them can believe or not believe whathever the heck they want lolRocketman wrote:But if they don't kill Jehovah, how are you gonna know how super-cool atheist they are?
back to the subject of the topic, I think superman is the most ridiculously overpowered character in the story of comics lol. Goku has no chance in his current form, depending of the incarnation of superman we are dealing with, Goku has no chance against Superman prime. Mmm I wonder if Superman prime has a chance against Michael Demiurgos?... I dunno lol.
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Superman the most overpowered characters in comics?
Yeah no.
Yeah no.
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Post Crisis Superman is not even the strongest superhero on Earth from what I can remember. I believe Hal Jordan has shown to be stronger then Superman before.
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Well, Post Crisis Hal Jordan was the Vengeance of God for a while, and was also host to the embodiment of fear when he was Parallex. Not sure about current Hal Jordan though.Hellspawn28 wrote:Post Crisis Superman is not even the strongest superhero on Earth from what I can remember. I believe Hal Jordan has shown to be stronger then Superman before.
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