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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by RandomGuy96 » Wed Jun 19, 2013 5:39 pm

Now it turns into Zen Buu stomping everyone. Not that he wasn't already going to do that.
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He's probably referring to the Bardock special. Zarbon was the one who first recommended destroying Planet Vegeta because the saiyans were rapidly growing in strength.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Marco Polo » Wed Jun 19, 2013 5:53 pm

People who call this twist bullshit are way too serious... This is both clever and hilarious, I like it. :lolno: Most importantly, this is the kind of plot twists that Akira Toriyama could definitely have written in early DB, Namek Saga or Buu Saga. The series definitely needs this kind of humor, especially after that godawful Future Gohan special.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Jun 19, 2013 6:32 pm

RandomGuy96 wrote:Now it turns into Zen Buu stomping everyone. Not that he wasn't already going to do that.
The 1st Round of the semi-finals will most likely be Goku vs Vegeta, while the 2nd Round will most likely either be Bra vs Boo or XXI. If XXI really is the main villain, then he will defeat Boo, fight with Bra, and then defeat Bra as well. And then, we will have Goku vs XXI in the Final Round, with Goku as the winner.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DNA » Wed Jun 19, 2013 8:05 pm

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RandomGuy96 wrote:Now it turns into Zen Buu stomping everyone. Not that he wasn't already going to do that.
The 1st Round of the semi-finals will most likely be Goku vs Vegeta, while the 2nd Round will most likely either be Bra vs Boo or XXI. If XXI really is the main villain, then he will defeat Boo, fight with Bra, and then defeat Bra as well. And then, we will have Goku vs XXI in the Final Round, with Goku as the winner.
Something tells me we are not going to see this tournament to it's end...

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Jun 19, 2013 8:07 pm

DNA wrote:Something tells me we are not going to see this tournament to it's end...
Why not? Round 2 is progressing much faster than I expected (I also assume that we will see the fights that Vegetto missed), and the next rounds should progress even faster.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by FoolsGil » Wed Jun 19, 2013 11:42 pm

I can't believe I was right about how Vegetto would lose. I can't believe that we skipped 4 matches. I actually wanted to see if Eleim's tech could hurt Super Saiyan God(dess), and if Tenshinhan was so awesome that Buu decided to absorb him.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Saiga » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:32 am

That is just marvelous. :twisted:

Although wow, that line from the novel about Bra putting Vegetto in his place is just bullshit.
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:23 am

FoolsGil wrote:I can't believe I was right about how Vegetto would lose. I can't believe that we skipped 4 matches. I actually wanted to see if Eleim's tech could hurt Super Saiyan God(dess), and if Tenshinhan was so awesome that Buu decided to absorb him.
Maybe the plot will go back a little to show us what happened in the meantime.

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Post by omegalucas » Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:52 am

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Hellspawn28 wrote:We never saw what XXI looked like anyways.
Well, we saw the little wizard guy, but according to Elder Kai, that's not who he was thinking it was. So either that was all one big joke that fell flat, or this guy is a stand-in for the real thing - or he transforms into what Elder Kai was thinking of, or something.
Well, the whole thing between XXI and Old Kaioshin happened millions of years before, couldn't he have aged enough so that the old god wouldn't recognize him?
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:27 am

rereboy wrote:Well, I liked it. It was clever and funny. And nothing would be more boring than Vegetto stomping (almost) everyone or a villain that is just OMG-strong and nothing else. Now I'm curious to see what this will lead to.

Oh, and that ability doesn't make XXI invincible. Now that the other fighters know about it, I'm sure that at least some of them will figure out ways of avoiding it.
Yeah and how many people are gonna be unfairly thrown out of the tournament until they figure out how to avoid that technique? The even better question would be how the hell are they gonna avoid practically instantaneous magic?
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:58 am

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rereboy wrote:Well, I liked it. It was clever and funny. And nothing would be more boring than Vegetto stomping (almost) everyone or a villain that is just OMG-strong and nothing else. Now I'm curious to see what this will lead to.

Oh, and that ability doesn't make XXI invincible. Now that the other fighters know about it, I'm sure that at least some of them will figure out ways of avoiding it.
Yeah and how many people are gonna be unfairly thrown out of the tournament until they figure out how to avoid that technique? The even better question would be how the hell are they gonna avoid practically instantaneous magic?
Maybe Ki shield? Maybe moving around really fast so he can't lock with his power/spell/thingy? Maybe making XXI unable to speak, by breaking his jaw or some other solution? Maybe blinding him so he can't focus his power/spell/thingy on you (solar flare ou other solution)? Other things?

It will depend on how his power actually works and what kind of limits it has, but as you can see there are tons of possibilities. I only listed the most obvious ones.

Also, not many fighters stand between XXI and the final so not many will actually have to deal with his ability in the tournament.
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:00 pm

And why would a Ki shield prevent them from being sent to another dimension?
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Post by rereboy » Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:02 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:And why would a Ki shield prevent them from being sent to another dimension?
Why would a Ki shield prevent you from being absorbed but not from being miniaturized at the same time...?

Like I said, it depends on the limits of the power/technique/thing. And those are whatever the author wants.

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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:07 pm

That's a different story, the barrier prevented him from being assimilated which makes some degree of sense, but he was still taken into Buu's body. How in the heck would a barrier prevent you from being sent to another plane of existence?
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by rereboy » Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:20 pm

TheMightyOzaru wrote:That's a different story, the barrier prevented him from being assimilated which makes some degree of sense, but he was still taken into Buu's body. How in the heck would a barrier prevent you from being sent to another plane of existence?
Why not..? Why is one more believable than the other? Maybe a strong Ki shield can protect from most types and forms of magic, which is why Vegetto's shield worked agaisnt Buu's magic absorption but not from being miniaturized, and why it could protect from a magic attack that sends someone to another dimension. Or maybe the magic vibrations of the sound of the words proclaimed by XXI have to actually hit the opponent unfiltered for the technique to work and the shield would prevent that. Or some other explanation. All we need is a little imagination.

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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by omegalucas » Thu Jun 20, 2013 12:25 pm

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TheMightyOzaru wrote:That's a different story, the barrier prevented him from being assimilated which makes some degree of sense, but he was still taken into Buu's body. How in the heck would a barrier prevent you from being sent to another plane of existence?
Why not..? Why is one more believable than the other? Maybe a strong Ki shield can protect from most types and forms of magic, which is why Vegetto's shield worked agaisnt Buu's magic absorption but not from being miniaturized, and why it could protect from a magic attack that sends someone to another dimension. Or maybe the magic vibrations of the sound of the words proclaimed by XXI have to actually hit the opponent unfiltered for the technique to work and the shield would prevent that. Or some other explanation. All we need is a little imagination.
I see it like this: the transportation didn't need to penetrate the barrier itself but the absorption needed, thus why one worked and the other failed.
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Post by Insertclevername » Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:30 pm

I actually think that was clever and kind of funny. Good work DBM. :lol:
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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Thu Jun 20, 2013 2:03 pm

rereboy wrote:
TheMightyOzaru wrote:That's a different story, the barrier prevented him from being assimilated which makes some degree of sense, but he was still taken into Buu's body. How in the heck would a barrier prevent you from being sent to another plane of existence?
Why not..? Why is one more believable than the other? Maybe a strong Ki shield can protect from most types and forms of magic, which is why Vegetto's shield worked agaisnt Buu's magic absorption but not from being miniaturized, and why it could protect from a magic attack that sends someone to another dimension. Or maybe the magic vibrations of the sound of the words proclaimed by XXI have to actually hit the opponent unfiltered for the technique to work and the shield would prevent that. Or some other explanation. All we need is a little imagination.
Vegetto's shield merely prevented him from being assimilated. He was still shrunk and taken into Buu's body so clearly it won't prevent magic. If Vegetto's barrier technique can't prevent him from being shrunk, I don't see how anyone can prevent themselves from being sent to another dimension.
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Post by Attitudefan » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:21 pm

That was a brilliant plot twist. Honestly, I couldn't care for some of the upcoming fights, so lets keep this ball moving forward, baby!
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Re: Fanmanga - DB Multiverse

Post by Gyt Kaliba » Thu Jun 20, 2013 3:42 pm

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Hellspawn28 wrote:We never saw what XXI looked like anyways.
Well, we saw the little wizard guy, but according to Elder Kai, that's not who he was thinking it was. So either that was all one big joke that fell flat, or this guy is a stand-in for the real thing - or he transforms into what Elder Kai was thinking of, or something.
Well, the whole thing between XXI and Old Kaioshin happened millions of years before, couldn't he have aged enough so that the old god wouldn't recognize him?
That's possible too, yeah. Though you'd think Old Kaio-shin could look at him and think maybe it was what an older version of his old foe would look like or something, but eh...when have the Kaios ever been much help in this regard. I could buy that. :P
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