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Post by kei17 » Fri Jun 21, 2013 3:37 pm

MuffinButton wrote:Amazon customer review:
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All the new remastered levels of DBZ are great but why even make it in blu ray if the ratio is not 16:9. Hardly anyone has tube televisions anymore so thats almost in a way what you are watching. Even the remastered dvd versions are in 16:9. It just doesnt make any sense. Its like an oxymoron. You get it in bluray but you also are looking a picture that should be on a tube television.

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^ THIS, is why they're polling on 16:9 vs 4:3. Because people are idiots. And they need the idiots to BUY BUY BUY to make their DBZ flood viable.
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Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Fri Jun 21, 2013 3:55 pm

We have to be very realistic about it. The fact that FUNimation is even asking what aspect ratio they prefer would indicate that they are looking for a marketing profit whether we like it or not. We are in minority group compared to the American fan base. Yes, they released Dragon Box. Yes, they released the Level sets. But both the releases weren't even selling. They are looking for a way to get the market going.

I'm sure they are aware that the DBZ TV series was meant to be seen on 4:3 ratio. A proof of that is Dragon Box, Kai, and Level. All of them were presented in 4:3. FUNimation is not the same company that they used to be, but at the same time they also have to be realistic about it. They have to figure out how to make a profit in any possible way, even if it means to release them in 16:9.

I know it's not pretty that they asked which ratio they want for the release, so we will just have to wait and see. FUNimation is just a company. They need money.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:12 pm

I suppose I should go ahead and answer this survey, as a DBZ fan, even though I don't really have any interest in buying the series again on Bluray (I'd rather just pick up the rest of the Boxes). That said though -
AjayLikesGaming wrote:Oh yeah, I should probably add, if you answered 16:9, I will find you and I will dip your genitals in hot oil. Why they would even ask that question is beyond me. They may as well have written 'Do you want the artist's intention or our shitty crop job'.

- While I get where it's coming from, comments like this one are making me want to be a total asshat and vote in favor of 16:9. I get that you're just joking on the comment probably, but SERIOUSLY? Nothing FUNi has ever done, ever, warrants that kind of response IMO. I also don't see how them asking would be 'disrespectful' either. It's better that they ask, and perhaps get the answer that most people don't want it widescreen, then them NOT asking and just using the 16:9 prints they likely still have on hand, right?

Geez, I get that a bunch of you do want to upgrade from your Dragon Boxes to Bluray sets or something, or just never got the Boxes - but the series has been released time, and time, and time again. Even if this new one somehow turns out to be 16:9 again - which no, even though I'm severely tempted to just to be a dick, I'll be voting against that and in favor of the original aspect ratio - it's not the end of the world. At all.
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Post by Ajay » Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:29 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote: it's not the end of the world. At all.
It's a waste of everyone's time though.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:34 pm

AjayLikesGaming wrote:
Gyt Kaliba wrote: it's not the end of the world. At all.
It's a waste of everyone's time though.
That's just it though, I could say the same about this release regardless of how it turns out, since - again - we've already gotten at least two perfectly legitimate ways to own the entire series. All I'm trying to say is that outrage to that level over any kind of DVD release seems pretty silly to me (and this is coming from a guy who practically sees red every time Aniplex licenses something since they're akin to highway robbery).
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Post by penguintruth » Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:43 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:INothing FUNi has ever done, ever, warrants that kind of response IMO.
I respectfully disagree.
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Post by Kojiro Sasaki » Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:48 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:it's not the end of the world. At all.
But end of the world may be cut off! :D
I will never understand this... Why people stick to this old format? (DVD Video) We all now have HDTVs/Full HD monitors. What is the reason to use source which is 1/7 size of 1080p?

These screenshots are stunning:
http://images4.static-bluray.com/review ... _large.jpg
http://images2.static-bluray.com/review ... _large.jpg
Wikipedia wrote:(...)With the advent of HDTV, Super 16 film is still used for some productions destined for HD.(...)
Dragon Ball series was shot in better quality than DVD Video can handle.
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Post by ABED » Fri Jun 21, 2013 4:56 pm

I love Blu Ray as much as the next person, but I have so many DVDs that a better picture isn't enough to get me to upgrade. It would be very expensive to upgrade my entire collection, especially when DVD is an excellent format.
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Post by Kendamu » Fri Jun 21, 2013 5:00 pm

Kojiro Sasaki wrote:
Gyt Kaliba wrote:it's not the end of the world. At all.
But end of the world may be cut off! :D
I will never understand this... Why people stick to this old format? (DVD Video) We all now have HDTVs/Full HD monitors. What is the reason to use source which is 1/7 size of 1080p?

These screenshots are stunning:
http://images4.static-bluray.com/review ... _large.jpg
http://images2.static-bluray.com/review ... _large.jpg
Wikipedia wrote:(...)With the advent of HDTV, Super 16 film is still used for some productions destined for HD.(...)
Dragon Ball series is shot in better quality than DVD Video can handle.
because a lot of people don't even know what Blu-ray is. They're like, "No, I'll stick with regular." I say, "Why's that?" I'm then told, "I don't even know what a Blu-ray is." I explain it to them and how many more movies are coming out on Blu-ray and how the selection for DVDs (in my store) is shrinking. It's kind of a 50/50 response at this point of, "Well, if that's the case, I might as well," or, "I don't even buy movies anymore! Now give me a DVD player and tell me where the new movies are!"

People are really stubborn. Same goes for the Wii U. "But I already bought a Wii!" "How long ago?" "It think I got it in 2008." "Don't you remember gaming as a kid when new consoles would come out?"

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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Fri Jun 21, 2013 5:01 pm

penguintruth wrote:
Gyt Kaliba wrote:INothing FUNi has ever done, ever, warrants that kind of response IMO.
I respectfully disagree.
Like I said, I don't see how any entertainment related issue could ever merit that response, but maybe that's just me. That's the kind of response I expect in regards to like...real world issues. Where people are hurt.

Kojiro Sasaki wrote:I will never understand this... Why people stick to this old format? (DVD Video) We all now have HDTVs/Full HD monitors. What is the reason to use source which is 1/7 size of 1080p?
We all do? Really? I must have misplaced my HDTV then, woe-is-me. :P Not everyone upgrades to the 'latest thing' within even a good few years of it being out. I still don't have a Bluray player, and since DVDs still work just fine for me, I haven't had a need to get one yet (though they are cheap enough that I probably should soon). Hell, I still have a BOX TV. Not a flatscreen. And while that too will need replaced soon enough, there's no need for me to run out and go get something new when it works just fine for now.

Though I'll admit - the 70" TV I passed by Wal-mart about made me wet myself. Mother of God...
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Post by Fennekin » Fri Jun 21, 2013 5:21 pm

OmegaRockman wrote:Sorry for a double post and being slightly off topic, but has anyone seen this?!

http://www.amazon.com/Dragon-Ball-Level ... +z+blu+ray
$4,999.99 for a used set? I don't think any Blu-Ray is worth that much!

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Post by Ajay » Fri Jun 21, 2013 5:36 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:
AjayLikesGaming wrote:
Gyt Kaliba wrote: it's not the end of the world. At all.
It's a waste of everyone's time though.
That's just it though, I could say the same about this release regardless of how it turns out, since - again - we've already gotten at least two perfectly legitimate ways to own the entire series. All I'm trying to say is that outrage to that level over any kind of DVD release seems pretty silly to me (and this is coming from a guy who practically sees red every time Aniplex licenses something since they're akin to highway robbery).
Not really, the releases we've had so far are either shit or outrageously priced since they're out of print. There's some of us who would actually like to have the series in a modern format and this is the first opportunity we've had to potentially get that. I'm sorry you don't seem to think it's something important but to those who would actually like to see this happen, it is important.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Fri Jun 21, 2013 5:44 pm

AjayLikesGaming wrote:Not really, the releases we've had so far are either shit or outrageously priced since they're out of print. There's some of us who would actually like to have the series in a modern format and this is the first opportunity we've had to potentially get that. I'm sorry you don't seem to think it's something important but to those who would actually like to see this happen, it is important.
I'm not saying it's not important - all I'm trying to say is that your reaction is a little much, regardless of the circumstance.

And the Season Sets, regardless of anyone's personal feelings to them, are still a legitimate way to own the series. As are the superior Dragon Boxes, which are, as you said, unfortunately out of print now. But they weren't at one time. One could have gotten hold of those quite easily as they trickled out, had they really been that opposed to being stuck with the Season Sets otherwise. But that's neither here nor there, especially since I understand money can be an issue regardless of how bad someone might want to nab things as they come out - my main point here is about the overreaction.
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Post by Big Momma » Fri Jun 21, 2013 5:49 pm

Fennekin wrote:
OmegaRockman wrote:Sorry for a double post and being slightly off topic, but has anyone seen this?!

http://www.amazon.com/Dragon-Ball-Level ... +z+blu+ray
$4,999.99 for a used set? I don't think any Blu-Ray is worth that much!
Anyone willing to take one (Or a few thousand) for the team? Just to see if there really is one? :P
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Post by Kojiro Sasaki » Fri Jun 21, 2013 5:57 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:And the Season Sets, regardless of anyone's personal feelings to them, are still a legitimate way to own the series.
They are insult to my technical knowledge, me as a fan and disgrace to FUNimation.

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Post by Ajay » Fri Jun 21, 2013 5:59 pm

Gyt Kaliba wrote:
AjayLikesGaming wrote:Not really, the releases we've had so far are either shit or outrageously priced since they're out of print. There's some of us who would actually like to have the series in a modern format and this is the first opportunity we've had to potentially get that. I'm sorry you don't seem to think it's something important but to those who would actually like to see this happen, it is important.
I'm not saying it's not important - all I'm trying to say is that your reaction is a little much, regardless of the circumstance.

And the Season Sets, regardless of anyone's personal feelings to them, are still a legitimate way to own the series. As are the superior Dragon Boxes, which are, as you said, unfortunately out of print now. But they weren't at one time. One could have gotten hold of those quite easily as they trickled out, had they really been that opposed to being stuck with the Season Sets otherwise. But that's neither here nor there, especially since I understand money can be an issue regardless of how bad someone might want to nab things as they come out - my main point here is about the overreaction.
So your main point is my joke about genital mutilation? Alright.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Fri Jun 21, 2013 6:01 pm

AjayLikesGaming wrote:So your main point is my joke about genital mutilation? Alright.
Exactly. But I guess it's a lost battle if you can't even see how that's a little much, over an issue on a cartoon's latest release format...
Kojiro Sasaki wrote:
Gyt Kaliba wrote:And the Season Sets, regardless of anyone's personal feelings to them, are still a legitimate way to own the series.
They are insult to my technical knowledge, me as a fan and disgrace to FUNimation.
And yet I can still watch them just fine myself. Opinions are a funny thing sometimes.
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Gyt Kaliba wrote:
AjayLikesGaming wrote:So your main point is my joke about genital mutilation? Alright.
Exactly. But I guess it's a lost battle if you can't even see how that's a little much, over an issue on a cartoon's latest release format...
Of course it's a little much, it's a stupid joke. I don't get why you seem to up in arms about it. I'm not going to destroy the world if it was 16:9. I have the Dragon Boxes, I just feel for those who never got a chance to get a proper release.
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Post by Gyt Kaliba » Fri Jun 21, 2013 6:13 pm

AjayLikesGaming wrote:
Gyt Kaliba wrote:
AjayLikesGaming wrote:So your main point is my joke about genital mutilation? Alright.
Exactly. But I guess it's a lost battle if you can't even see how that's a little much, over an issue on a cartoon's latest release format...
Of course it's a little much, it's a stupid joke. I don't get why you seem to up in arms about it. I'm not going to destroy the world if it was 16:9. I have the Dragon Boxes, I just feel for those who never got a chance to get a proper release.
I'm up in arms because, sadly, there are people out there in the world who legitimately think that reacting that way over a DVD release is fine, and it gets old fast. If you actually meant it as just a joke, I still find it a poor one, but eh, at least I know you're not among the crazies then.
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hy·per·bo·le
[hahy-pur-buh-lee] Show IPA
noun Rhetoric .
1.
obvious and intentional exaggeration.
2.
an extravagant statement or figure of speech not intended to be taken literally, as “to wait an eternity.”


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Origin:
1520–30; < Greek hyperbolḗ excess, exaggeration, throwing beyond, equivalent to hyper- hyper- + bolḗ throw

Synonyms
2. overstatement.

Antonyms
2. understatement.
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