Plot hole. The Z fighters would sense him. His power is to high for any other earthling so they would check it out. Can't Vegeta breathe in space?RandomGuy96 wrote:A random Freeza thug with a power level of >18,000 shows up and nukes the Earth from orbit while the heroes are lounging around, killing every single main character as they suffocate in space.
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But but but. Goku can hold his breath in space! DBM said so.Kamiccolo9 wrote:This is now canon. It happens right after Goku flies off with Uub. Uub saw the ship in orbit, but Goku was too busy thinking about food and training to listen to Uub's warning.RandomGuy96 wrote:A random Freeza thug with a power level of >18,000 shows up and nukes the Earth from orbit while the heroes are lounging around, killing every single main character as they suffocate in space.
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LOLDraken wrote:But but but. Goku can hold his breath in space! DBM said so.Kamiccolo9 wrote:This is now canon. It happens right after Goku flies off with Uub. Uub saw the ship in orbit, but Goku was too busy thinking about food and training to listen to Uub's warning.RandomGuy96 wrote:A random Freeza thug with a power level of >18,000 shows up and nukes the Earth from orbit while the heroes are lounging around, killing every single main character as they suffocate in space.
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Re: Post-Manga Head Canon?
I guess the Jump special and BOG. As much as I like GT and especially the Evil Dragon arc, I don't see it as canon.
It is in his character to be rude and a bit crass. He's a hick, with no formal education. That is Son Goku. That is who he is.
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Both because of the cameos & because they are covered by the Daizenshuu & Chozenshuu.Makaioshin wrote:If you are doing this because of the cameos then you could also throw in Pola & Roid because of King Nikochan.DBZGTKOSDH wrote: Other Toriyama manga:
- Dr. Slump (manga)
- Dr. Mashirito & Abale-chan (manga)
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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I kinda have three different 'post-Z' canons that I consider all at once, really.
1) GT (or the best aspects of it at least, IE Kaboom's GT Revised)
2) Online (mostly the story stuff leading up to the game's timeline though, more-so than the Time Quests or any of that)
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3) My own ideas (which I'm keeping pretty vague since I'm still toying around with stuff before I get anything written
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Here's my Head Canon
-Age 737: The Bardock Specials
-Age 743-Age 744: Wonder Island - Tomato: Girl Detective
- Age 745- Age 749 Dr Slump/Dr. Slump Arale-chan (One-shots like Pola and Roid Dragon Boy, Pink, Escape, Tong Poo etc happening during then)
-Age 749- Age 784 Dragonball (One shots like Mr. Ho, Soncho, Mamejiro, Karamaru, Wolf, Lady Red, etc happening during then)
-Age 776- The Jump Special
-Age 779 - Battle of Gods
-Age 784- The end of DBZ
Age 785- Age 999- The prelude timeline to Dragonball Online (Neko Majin Series happening during then)
Age 1000 Dragonball Online/ Sand Land
I hope this dosen't confuse anyone.
-Age 737: The Bardock Specials
-Age 743-Age 744: Wonder Island - Tomato: Girl Detective
- Age 745- Age 749 Dr Slump/Dr. Slump Arale-chan (One-shots like Pola and Roid Dragon Boy, Pink, Escape, Tong Poo etc happening during then)
-Age 749- Age 784 Dragonball (One shots like Mr. Ho, Soncho, Mamejiro, Karamaru, Wolf, Lady Red, etc happening during then)
-Age 776- The Jump Special
-Age 779 - Battle of Gods
-Age 784- The end of DBZ
Age 785- Age 999- The prelude timeline to Dragonball Online (Neko Majin Series happening during then)
Age 1000 Dragonball Online/ Sand Land
I hope this dosen't confuse anyone.
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Didn't Goku battle Birus in space or something?Draken wrote:But but but. Goku can hold his breath in space! DBM said so.Kamiccolo9 wrote:This is now canon. It happens right after Goku flies off with Uub. Uub saw the ship in orbit, but Goku was too busy thinking about food and training to listen to Uub's warning.RandomGuy96 wrote:A random Freeza thug with a power level of >18,000 shows up and nukes the Earth from orbit while the heroes are lounging around, killing every single main character as they suffocate in space.
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Bardock did it also in the TV Special & the manga.Nightstar1994 wrote:Didn't Goku battle Birus in space or something?Draken wrote:But but but. Goku can hold his breath in space! DBM said so.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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To me it seems that in the manga, it's only an artistic choice to put Bardock, Freeza's minions and Planet Vegeta in one panel. You can see true form Freeza in that panel as well. And in the next panel, you see Freeza attacking and Bardock getting hit by that attack, but the characters are from wrong perspectives. An artistic choice is my explanation (despite its resemblance to the scene in Bardock's special).DBZGTKOSDH wrote: Bardock did it also in the TV Special & the manga.
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Yeah, it's possible.hleV wrote:To me it seems that in the manga, it's only an artistic choice to put Bardock, Freeza's minions and Planet Vegeta in one panel. You can see true form Freeza in that panel as well. And in the next panel, you see Freeza attacking and Bardock getting hit by that attack, but the characters are from wrong perspectives. An artistic choice is my explanation.DBZGTKOSDH wrote: Bardock did it also in the TV Special & the manga.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.
Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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I don't get when people say that GT is part canon? Either is canon or not. This is why I don't like personal canons because it turns out to be a total mess.
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I don't see how it's a mess. Was only asking what people personally imagine happened to the characters after what was depicted in the manga.Hellspawn28 wrote:I don't get when people say that GT is part canon? Either is canon or not. This is why I don't like personal canons because it turns out to be a total mess.
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You can't have GT be canon to the manga since most of the stuff that happens in the show is based on the anime. The Shadow Dragon saga can't happen since the portal between Hell and Earth cause the dragon balls to crack and the Super 17 saga can't happen in the manga since villains don't keep their bodies in Hell.
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One can easily dismiss certain parts of the story though, since we're talking about 'head canon'. For example, I love the Shadow Dragons (at least in idea), but I'm not so fond of Super 17. In GT proper, as you said, the two are connected because the Dragon Balls are cracking a-Hellspawn28 wrote:You can't have GT be canon to the manga since most of the stuff that happens in the show is based on the anime. The Shadow Dragon saga can't happen since the portal between Hell and Earth cause the dragon balls to crack and the Super 17 saga can't happen in the manga since villains don't keep their bodies in Hell.
...wait...was it said that the rift between dimensions was why the Dragon Balls were cracking? I don't recall that. I thought they were cracking because of overuse and too much negative energy being inside them, and the only real connection the Super 17 events had to those events were that enough damage was caused that they sought out the Dragon Balls again.
Either way though, it's easy to mentally dismiss Super 17, if you wanted to, and still keep the Shadow Dragons as nothing more than a result of the overuse of the Dragon Balls.
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Well I like Cooler yet you do so me putting him into a Manga head canon. You can't just take bits and pieces of something and incorporate into a head canon just because you like it =/. I just prefer to think everything is canon with sufficient multiversing. There is the Manga with BoG and the 2008 Jump Special(Manga) and then there is the anime with branching paths that make up specials and GT.
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What's a head canon? My personal canon outside the manga would include the Bardock special, any DB Kai anime filler that's reasonable, Trunks special ( Overrides Manga similar to how Kamiccolo views it ) , I like Cooler, Broly , Janemba, but that still has to be in alternate universes.
I generally don't like any of the new work that has appeared over the last couple of years. Hard not to include Beers and Whis though, they make sense of the whole DB universe, but I don't like SSG.
I generally don't like any of the new work that has appeared over the last couple of years. Hard not to include Beers and Whis though, they make sense of the whole DB universe, but I don't like SSG.
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Same as what you just said. Head canon, personal canon - just two different ways to say the same thing.Mjb1985 wrote:What's a head canon? My personal canon
There's no real rule saying that though. Since it's a personal type thing, I don't see why someone can't take bits and pieces of something and make it work in their head - just so long as they remember that that's just the way they have taken it and made it work, rather than how it may have actually taken place in the series proper.TheMightyOzaru wrote:Well I like Cooler yet you do so me putting him into a Manga head canon. You can't just take bits and pieces of something and incorporate into a head canon just because you like it =/.
That's also a legitimate way to look at it though, yeah.I just prefer to think everything is canon with sufficient multiversing. There is the Manga with BoG and the 2008 Jump Special(Manga) and then there is the anime with branching paths that make up specials and GT.
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I generally would have to make some adjustments to make a lot of those characters work, but yea, some of them deserve to be in there.
Cooler seems awesome, I would have liked to see him. Bardock was awesome and generally considered canon by most. AT's comments about it made me feel secure about this being in my personal canon as well as his inclusion of it in the manga.
Cooler seems awesome, I would have liked to see him. Bardock was awesome and generally considered canon by most. AT's comments about it made me feel secure about this being in my personal canon as well as his inclusion of it in the manga.
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Everything happens where it happens. Well, that's not so much an 'view' so much as it is a fact.
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