"DBZ: Battle of Z" (360/PS3/Vita) On-Going Discussion Thread

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:37 pm

GogetaSSJ2 wrote:Yes he is. SSJ Bardock is non-canon.
There is no official canon in Dragon Ball, and Episode of Bardock (manga version) was covered in Chozenshuu 1, a manga-only guide, not to mention that EoB is part of the official DB timeline.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by dbboxkaifan » Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:38 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Doesn't matter, I like it. It's fun, and I don't find it boring. Simple game =/= bad game. Check the original Super Mario Bros.
Please do not compare a classic retro game loved by gamers to something so inferior.
Hellspawn28 wrote:I hope so if they have been working on the game for a year and half. I seen games that have been in the making for years and they end up being total shit like Aliens: Colonial Marines and Too Human.
Too Human is a pretty good game, I haven't finished because I'm at a point where there's a crapload of enemies and I dunno how to beat them, they're too many. The way to make the attacks was innovative, something which I haven't seen on other games.
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Oh god, I can't believe this comment I just read on DBZ Battle of gods. It's too much, I need to share the best of it:

"recycling ultimate tenkaichi's system is NEW? There's a damn good reason the trailer didnt show the health bar,combo meter like the ULT FAILURE trailer didnt do as well,they really just want to uck us over to get cheap easy money from people who love DBZ and are desperate,instead,why dont they just make RAGING BLAS 3?! OR BURST LIMIT 2?! MAYBE A BUDOKAI 4,OR TENKAICHI 3?!! FUCK BANDAI!"

My answer: Are you reading yourself? You say we recycle Tenkaichi system...But you request a 3rd raging blast or a fourth Budokai ?!? Come on...
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Good to see that Namco Bandai isn't staying quiet and instead putting out their exact thoughts.

I entirely agree with Tony.
gokugambitoptimus wrote:The gameplay need to be completely different of traditional fighting games, more speed, more forcefulness, more frenetic
The manga/anime haven´t deep combat technics, only powerful punchs, kicks and energy waves
If we were to go by how the fights are on the DBZ series you'd never see the characters because they're too fast.

There are deep DBZ games; Super DBZ, Budokai 3, Infinite World. It took me a while to learn how to gather Ki because on IW I just needed to press R1 (I think), I still need to get better on B3 or I'll end up losing and the fun's in knowing how the game is properly played.
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:SS Bardock isn't a what-if character.
Eh, don't listen to the troll. I guess he annoyed Namco Bandai enough to block him.
GogetaSSJ2 wrote:Yes he is. SSJ Bardock is non-canon.
Whether it's canon or not it's down to one's opinion.

I personally don't care about the whole canon/non-cannon.
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Post by GogetaSSJ2 » Thu Jun 27, 2013 7:58 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
GogetaSSJ2 wrote:Yes he is. SSJ Bardock is non-canon.
There is no official canon in Dragon Ball, and Episode of Bardock (manga version) was covered in Chozenshuu 1, a manga-only guide, not to mention that EoB is part of the official DB timeline.
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Post by DragonBalllKaiHD » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:07 pm

GogetaSSJ2 wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
GogetaSSJ2 wrote:Yes he is. SSJ Bardock is non-canon.
There is no official canon in Dragon Ball, and Episode of Bardock (manga version) was covered in Chozenshuu 1, a manga-only guide, not to mention that EoB is part of the official DB timeline.
You good sir just confused the heck out of me :crazy:
He's saying there's no official canon, yet Episode of Bardock is a part of the official Dragon Ball franchise.
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Post by Silkman3003 » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:34 pm

gokugambitoptimus wrote:
The Budokai saga (the two Shin Budokai included) has very repetitive & spam system,
Can you describe this "spam system" please?

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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:43 pm

Sparking Meteor is not inferior to Super Mario Bros. That's quite frankly absurd to suggest Super Mario Bros is too good to compare to Sparking Meteor :problem: .
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Post by mysticboy » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:23 pm

http://youtu.be/nMn4mowb-YE?t=6m8s

NGS had some great points on how fickle the fanbase can be. If you want something new, specify what you want instead of bitching.

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Post by DarkPrince_92 » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:34 pm

mysticboy wrote:http://youtu.be/nMn4mowb-YE?t=6m8s

NGS had some great points on how fickle the fanbase can be. If you want something new, specify what you want instead of bitching.
Basically things I've been seeing. Fanbase are spoiled ass kids.
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Post by Saiga » Thu Jun 27, 2013 10:57 pm

I don't see how SS Bardock is any less of a what-if character than SS3 Trunks or the like.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Thu Jun 27, 2013 11:22 pm

@dbboxkaifan I prefer to call it Genki Dami for some reason. Sounds and looks better lol. Just like how I like to call Bardock "Badock"

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Post by TheMightyOzaru » Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:20 am

Saiga wrote:I don't see how SS Bardock is any less of a what-if character than SS3 Trunks or the like.
He has an anime special unlike SSJ3 Mirai Trunks. Episode of Bardock is also considered "canon" by Shueisha.
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Post by miguelnuva1 » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:12 am

Saiga wrote:I don't see how SS Bardock is any less of a what-if character than SS3 Trunks or the like.
He was in an offical Anime but I agree with you to some degree.

Example: I would tell someone that while he doesn't do so in the movies Broly does go LSSJ3 as he did it in an official game and not something like AF or Hoshi.

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Post by supersaiyan DbZ fan » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:36 am

This game MUST be released this year otherwise 2013 would be boring without any new releases of Dragon Ball Z (except japan If we include j stars victory versus) :evil: :shock: :problem: :cry:
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Post by Saiga » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:52 am

And SS3 Trunks/Broli/Veggie were in official games.
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Post by Big Momma » Fri Jun 28, 2013 4:52 am

Namco-Bandai is under contract to release one game a year, so (unless I'm wrong) I'm sure we'll get it this year.
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Post by TheGmGoken » Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:09 am

Saiga wrote:And SS3 Trunks/Broli/Veggie were in official games.
IT DOESN'T MATTER IF THEY WERE IN OFFICIAL GAMES!

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Post by Iced » Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:04 am

Jesus H Christ some of those comments.
Sometimes I think that as long as a dbz game allowed you to collect the characters as if they were toys, the fans wouldnt mind if the games were entirely composed of cutscenes glued together by button mashing mini games.

Guys the whole point of "collecting" characters and costumes went out of the window with the digital era. Its irrelevant how many characters a game has if the gameplay isnt sturdy enough to be played skillfully by others. If all that matters is ammount of characters then why not just collect the 3d models and videos of their cutscenes ?

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Post by Sin » Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:37 am

mysticboy wrote:http://youtu.be/nMn4mowb-YE?t=6m8s

NGS had some great points on how fickle the fanbase can be. If you want something new, specify what you want instead of bitching.
That seems totally agreeable, even on here, over the years about every game announcement thread I've seen is almost full of people picking faults and lacking a true excitement as well as debating lot of random stuff (case in point SSJ Bardock or whatever). I'm sorta confused though, all the fans I see on Youtube and the Facebook page seem to hate this game with a passion already, it's kind of sad really.

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Post by Wobbuffet » Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:03 am

I'm far from fluent in English, but I think you guys should use more words like "this is my opinion" or "I like this better".
I personally don't want to wait for the next game to get the characters that I want. We had way too much games with few characters already. And the next game will probably be released for next-gen consoles. I have no plans of buying PS4 and Xbox One, and I won't change my mind because of one single game.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:19 am

dbboxkaifan wrote:
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:Doesn't matter, I like it. It's fun, and I don't find it boring. Simple game =/= bad game. Check the original Super Mario Bros.
Please do not compare a classic retro game loved by gamers to something so inferior.
I'm not comparing BT3 with Mario. I'm just pointing out that a game doesn't have to be complicated to be awesome. Even simple games can be awesome.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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