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Kamiccolo9
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by Kamiccolo9 » Mon Jul 01, 2013 9:59 pm
I'm pretty sure Pan is older than Bra. Was Bra at the 28th Budokai?
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by TheGmGoken » Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:01 pm
Kamiccolo9 wrote:I'm pretty sure Pan is older than Bra. Was Bra at the 28th Budokai?
Yeah. She was with Bulma.
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by Kaboom » Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:50 pm
In my head canon, Bulma became a tad jealous of Videl being pregnant, and convinced Vegeta to give her another kid before she got too old. "Thirty-eight" is already pretty late to be doing so.
So Pan ends up older than Bra, but with probably only half a year or so difference between them, the former being born late that year and the latter the next year.
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by JulieYBM » Mon Jul 01, 2013 10:58 pm
Kaboom wrote:In my head canon, Bulma became a tad jealous of Videl being pregnant, and convinced Vegeta to give her another kid before she got too old. "Thirty-eight" is already pretty late to be doing so.
So Pan ends up older than Bra, but with probably only half a year or so difference between them, the former being born late that year and the latter the next year.
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by TheMightyOzaru » Mon Jul 01, 2013 11:34 pm
No, after Vegeta went berserk on Beers for Bulma, she rewarded him with sex, duh
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by miguelnuva1 » Tue Jul 02, 2013 3:48 am
The way Vegeta attacked Bills after he smaller Bulma there is no doubt in my mind that Vegeta got a reward that resulted in Bulla.
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by Saiga » Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:25 am
Or maybe Bulma was already pregnant, and Vegeta knew, which is another part of why he lost his shit at Bills.
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by SaiyaJedi » Tue Jul 02, 2013 6:51 am
TheGmGoken wrote:Just wondering. Even through it's VERY VERY VERY likely she was pregnant. I thought Bra was older than Pan. Was that ever stated or was just implied. But going by the impression that Bra is older than Pan. Why wasn't Bulma pregnant. Is it possible that she was pregnant but didn't know? If Videl was so should Bulma.
Pan is officially a year older than Bra. It's never stated in the series itself, but the guidebooks have Pan's birth year as Age 779, and Bra's as Age 780. (Battle of Gods takes place in Age 778.)
At the same time, there is good reason for confusion. An error in Daizenshuu 7 (not corrected in Chōzenshū 4) lists Bra's birth year as "778" in her biography, even though it's 780 on the timeline. Everywhere else, including the GT Perfect Files, uses 780, so we can take that as her "official" birth year.
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by TheMightyOzaru » Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:00 am
That's another inconsistency with Shueisha's timeline. They think GT and BoG are part of the same canon yet Bra is older in GT
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by Kaboom » Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:28 am
TheMightyOzaru wrote:That's another inconsistency with Sheisha's timeline. He thinks GT and BoG are part of the same canon yet Bra is older in GT
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That's "Sh
ueisha," and it's an entire publishing company, not a single person.
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by TheMightyOzaru » Tue Jul 02, 2013 1:11 pm
Kaboom wrote:TheMightyOzaru wrote:That's another inconsistency with Sheisha's timeline. He thinks GT and BoG are part of the same canon yet Bra is older in GT
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That's "Sh
ueisha," and it's an entire publishing company, not a single person.
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by DBZGTKOSDH » Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:36 pm
TheMightyOzaru wrote:Bra is older in GT
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Nope, GT Perfect Files have Age 780 as Bra's birth date, and there is no mention of Bra's age in GT.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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by TheGmGoken » Tue Jul 02, 2013 10:57 pm
SaiyaJedi wrote:TheGmGoken wrote:Just wondering. Even through it's VERY VERY VERY likely she was pregnant. I thought Bra was older than Pan. Was that ever stated or was just implied. But going by the impression that Bra is older than Pan. Why wasn't Bulma pregnant. Is it possible that she was pregnant but didn't know? If Videl was so should Bulma.
Pan is officially a year older than Bra. It's never stated in the series itself, but the guidebooks have Pan's birth year as Age 779, and Bra's as Age 780. (Battle of Gods takes place in Age 778.)
At the same time, there is good reason for confusion. An error in Daizenshuu 7 (not corrected in Chōzenshū 4) lists Bra's birth year as "778" in her biography, even though it's 780 on the timeline. Everywhere else, including the GT Perfect Files, uses 780, so we can take that as her "official" birth year.
Yea I was going by D7.
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by Draken » Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:26 pm
DBZGTKOSDH wrote:TheMightyOzaru wrote:Bra is older in GT
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Nope, GT Perfect Files have Age 780 as Bra's birth date, and there is no mention of Bra's age in GT.
Yet Bra looks like a very developed teenage girl while Pan looks far younger somehow.
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by Kamiccolo9 » Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:33 pm
Draken wrote:DBZGTKOSDH wrote:TheMightyOzaru wrote:Bra is older in GT
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Nope, GT Perfect Files have Age 780 as Bra's birth date, and there is no mention of Bra's age in GT.
Yet Bra looks like a very developed teenage girl while Pan looks far younger somehow.
Which makes it all the more creepy when you realize that those guys were hitting on an 8 year old.
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by TheMightyOzaru » Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:36 pm
Pan is 9-10 in GT. If Bra's younger, she is 8-9 years old. She isn't even hitting the double digits and she has teenagers hittin on her. Dat's f***ed up.
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by Kamiccolo9 » Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:37 pm
TheMightyOzaru wrote:Pan is 9-10 in GT. If Bra's younger, she is 8-9 years old. She isn't even hitting the double digits and she has teenagers hittin on her. Dat's f***ed up.
My bad. I suck at math. Especially when I don't bother actually looking at the dates
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by TheGmGoken » Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:43 pm
TheMightyOzaru wrote:Pan is 9-10 in GT. If Bra's younger, she is 8-9 years old. She isn't even hitting the double digits and she has teenagers hittin on her. Dat's f***ed up.
Maybe Bra has Progeria. Most children who have it don't live past the age of 13. It is very rare. Even more rare in the dbz universe. Maybe that's why Pan out-lived her. I'm being serious btw and not making jokes. I'm saying this because her being 8 and teenagers - Grown ups hitting on her. That's kinda weird. One of the few times I prefer Funimation's inaccurate decision and make GT 10 years later. Even still she's 13 - 14ish.
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by DBZGTKOSDH » Wed Jul 03, 2013 1:37 am
Draken wrote:Yet Bra looks like a very developed teenage girl while Pan looks far younger somehow.
Correct me if I am wrong, but Bra's breasts are not developed at all, and there isn't any big difference between hers and Pan's height.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.
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