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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:54 pm

Thanos wrote:*Sigh* In generally I have high hopes for this game and defend it, but this worries me. I'm hoping this isn't some gimmicky, non-Dragon Ball esque power up move (Raging Soul and whatever that glowing red bullshit was in Budokai 3).
Pretty sure you're out of luck. Weren't we already told that it has ties to the genki gauge? It's been seen in most of the videos. When it activates, everyone on the team glows.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Jul 21, 2013 5:58 pm

Thanos wrote:
JeffJarrett wrote:Gohan and Tenshinhan will have the Kaio-ken (or Super Saiyan God?!):
*Sigh* In generally I have high hopes for this game and defend it, but this worries me. I'm hoping this isn't some gimmicky, non-Dragon Ball esque power up move (Raging Soul and whatever that glowing red bullshit was in Budokai 3).
That's what it is.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by miguelnuva1 » Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:02 pm

Jaruka wrote:
miguelnuva1 wrote: 2. This game has about as many negatives as positives.
I don't think that is very accurate now, is it? Perhaps you could name some of the negatives of a game that we know almost nothing about.

No offline multiplayer. Possible low character count. No DB or GT. No character creator. Graphics. No 1 on 1.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:21 pm

miguelnuva1 wrote:No 1 on 1.
That's not true.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by miguelnuva1 » Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:26 pm

DBZGTKOSDH wrote:
miguelnuva1 wrote:No 1 on 1.
That's not true.
Where's 1 on 1?

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:29 pm

They are not showing us in the trailers because they want to promote the 4 vs 4, but they said that up to 8 players can play, which means that 2 players should be able to play together.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by DarkPrince_92 » Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:31 pm

Uhh, the last fight in the trailer was 1v1. Just.... Saiyan... :problem:
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:36 pm

DarkPrince_92 wrote:Uhh, the last fight in the trailer was 1v1. Just.... Saiyan... :problem:
The SS Goku vs Freeza one? It wasn't.
James Teal (Animerica 1996) wrote:When you think about it, there are a number of similarities between the Chinese-inspired Son Goku and that most American of superhero icons, Superman. Both are aliens sent to Earth shortly after birth to escape the destruction of their homeworlds; both possess super-strength, flight, super-speed, heightened senses and the ability to cast energy blasts. But the crucial difference between them lies not only in how they view the world, but in how the world views them.

Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:55 pm

The Japan Expo demo had 4 characters just fighting against Vegeta, even before he went Oozaru. So there is at least evidence to help support the fact that it's not forced to be 4v4 all the time. I think the story may try to do that every opportunity they get to play up the team battle function though.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:00 pm

Should I worry for not having seen Kiwi, Dodoria, and Zarbon? We have already seen all the Saiyan & Freeza arc characters (except Chaozu :problem: ), but they haven't appeared yet...
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by TheDevilsCorpse » Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:26 pm

Maybe? I'm thinking they are probably in, just not who they want to promote right now. I could be wrong though.

They could be used for more than the Freeza Arc too. We've been told Bardock is included. Assuming they retell at least part of his rise against Freeza, like Ultimate Blast did, and that they want to milk this team aspect, they'd do well to toss Dodoria, Zarbon and a couple of the soldiers at us to add to the battles.
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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:58 pm

Well, the fighters in Saiyan & Freeza arc are those:

Saiyan arc:
  • Goku (base, Kaio-ken)
  • Gohan (base, Oozaru)
  • Piccolo
  • Kuririn
  • Yamcha
  • Tenshinhan
  • Chaozu
  • Vegeta (base, Oozaru)
  • Nappa
  • Raditz
  • Saibaimen

Freeza arc:
  • Goku (base, Kaio-ken, Super Saiyan)
  • Gohan
  • Piccolo
  • Kuririn
  • Vegeta
  • Freeza (1st Form, 2nd Form, 3rd Form, Final Form, Full Power)
  • Kiwi
  • Dodoria
  • Zarbon (base, transformed)
  • Gurd
  • Reacoom
  • Butta
  • Jheese
  • Ginyu (normal body, Goku's body)
  • Freeza Soldiers
The red ones are the ones that we haven't seen so far. Freeza will definitely get the 1st & 3rd Forms, since he has his 2nd, and Ginyu always gets Goku's body in the games, so we will most likely have him too. But what about Chaozu, Kiwi, Dodoria, and Zarbon?

And what about the outfits? Goku, Kuririn, Yamcha, and Tenshinhan have their Cell arc outfits during both Saiyan & Freeza arc of the game, and Gohan has his Saiyan arc outfit in Freeza arc (Gohan & Kuririn don't have their Saiyan armors even in the final battle with Freeza!).

And we won't even get DB, GT, or even a Character Creator...
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Post by Silkman3003 » Sun Jul 21, 2013 9:32 pm

So uh, how long do you guys think it'll take b4 we get an information blow out?(like more characters, an estimate of how much can we be expected to get, more gameplay videos, etc)

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Post by Jaruka » Sun Jul 21, 2013 10:22 pm

miguelnuva1 wrote:
Jaruka wrote:
miguelnuva1 wrote: 2. This game has about as many negatives as positives.
I don't think that is very accurate now, is it? Perhaps you could name some of the negatives of a game that we know almost nothing about.

No offline multiplayer. Possible low character count. No DB or GT. No character creator. Graphics. No 1 on 1.
Why is everyone hating the graphics? The still look crap but has anyone even seen the footage, it looks excellent.

Thank you for posting a few however my post was in response to there being more negatives than positives and the ones you mention, only one of which is severe, do not outweigh the positives of this game.
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Post by Super Sayian Prime » Mon Jul 22, 2013 3:48 am

dbboxkaifan wrote:
Super Saiyan Prime wrote:People in this thread are complaining about the game's visuals as it is. For this to run on 3DS it would have to be a game designed for 3DS and ported to PS3/360/Vita because the 3DS can't handle a downport of this.
They need to stop focusing so much on the graphics, that's not the most important aspect of games, the gameplay is. A game can have absolutely beautiful but if the gameplay's awful or non-existent then it's no good. Let's just take Dragon Ball: Ultimate Blast as a great example (very good graphics, in this case, barely any gameplay).

This is the year of portable gaming for the 3DS and Vita (Sony) doesn't seem to be making any effort to get the damn system to be a success. Ultimately it'll probably just be PS4's Second Screen, I think.
More powerful hardware doesn't just aid in graphics, but also design. I honestly don't think Battle of Z would be possible in its current form on 3DS. That platform struggles with Dragon Ball Heroes, an arcade port using PS2 assets with what, six characters on a flat background with canned inputs? How would you have eight players on 3DS without making the battle arenas incredibly tiny
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Post by Xeogran » Mon Jul 22, 2013 4:49 am

Super Saiyan Prime wrote:six characters on a flat background with canned inputs? How would you have eight players on 3DS without making the battle arenas incredibly tiny
Dragon Ball Heroes is up to 10 characters at once.

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Post by dbboxkaifan » Mon Jul 22, 2013 5:51 am

miguelnuva1 wrote:No offline multiplayer. Possible low character count. No DB or GT. No character creator. Graphics. No 1 on 1.
Didn't know you were from ARTDINK's development team, what can you tell us more about the game?
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Post by JeffJarrett » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:05 am

dbboxkaifan wrote:
miguelnuva1 wrote:No offline multiplayer. Possible low character count. No DB or GT. No character creator. Graphics. No 1 on 1.
Didn't know you were from ARTDINK's development team, what can you tell us more about the game?
ARTDINK confirmed this in several interviews and press releases.

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Post by DBZGTKOSDH » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:13 am

But they haven't confirmed that 1vs1 isn't possible.
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Superman is, and always has been, a symbol for truth, justice, and upstanding moral fortitude–a role model and leader as much as a fighter. The more down-to-earth Goku has no illusions about being responsible for maintaining social order, or for setting some kind of moral example for the entire world. Goku is simply a martial artist who’s devoted his life toward perfecting his fighting skills and other abilities. Though never shy about risking his life to save either one person or the entire world, he just doesn’t believe that the balance of the world rests in any way on his shoulders, and he has no need to shape any part of it in his image. Goku is an idealist, and believes that there is some good in everyone, but he is unconcerned with the big picture of the world…unless it has to do with some kind of fight. Politics, society, law and order don’t have much bearing on his life, but he’s a man who knows right from wrong.

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Post by miguelnuva1 » Mon Jul 22, 2013 6:22 am

dbboxkaifan wrote:
miguelnuva1 wrote:No offline multiplayer. Possible low character count. No DB or GT. No character creator. Graphics. No 1 on 1.
Didn't know you were from ARTDINK's development team, what can you tell us more about the game?
Other than no 1vs1 which looks like were not getting what have I said in my post that wasn't true. If you want to insult then at least try to come up with something to insult me with.

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